Bigfoot spotted in Yukon

[Laisrean]

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45267 (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45267)


The legendary creature "Bigfoot" has been spotted again, this time in Canada, where nine people in the Yukon community of Teslin claim to have seen the legendary creature.

According to the CBC, the witnesses, some of whom are children, saw the hairy, human-like creature pass in front of a house window, and then later behind an abandoned car near some houses last weekend.

Either 9 people are liars, or they saw *something*. :spinner:

[Nighthawk]

I kinda hope it is not true, simply because I am afraid of what we would do to them if we found them.

[Druchii]

I kinda hope it is not true, simply because I am afraid of what we would do to them if we found them.


Amen.

But if it is true, from a zoological standpoint, it may turn the science world on end. :)

[Nighthawk]

Amen.

But if it is true, from a zoological standpoint, it may turn the science world on end. :)

Oh yea, I agree with that, too.

[Fyre_Nymph]

yeah, i'm actually thinking of joining one of those Bigfoot serching groupd when I'm older.

[Sea-Witch]

I have this article posted in my journal for those who are interested. It was published July 28, 2005.

DNA tests squelch Canadian sasquatch discovery

Big Foot will remain just a tall tale, for a while at least, after DNA hair samples thought to be from the mythic creature turned out to be bison hair.

Researchers said on Thursday that a mysterious clump of hair found in the Yukon Territory is from a North American bison and not from the elusive ape-like sasquatch, or Big Foot, said to haunt the woods of western Canada.

"The DNA profile of the hair sample we received from the Yukon earlier this week clearly matches reference DNA profiles from North American bison," said David Coltman, a wildlife geneticist at the University of Alberta in Edmonton.

"However, if you're a believer, we haven't disproved there is a Big Foot out there," Coltman said.

Hair and large footprints were discovered by two witnesses who claimed to have spotted a large and furry ape-like figure dash through the bush this month near Teslin, a village about 100 miles east of the Yukon capital of Whitehorse.

Coltman often works with Yukon wildlife officials and agreed to test the samples using a chemical solution to separate the DNA material from the hair shaft so that the gene sequences could be compared with the known sequences of other animals.

"DNA is quite powerful at detecting new species. It's the genetic blueprint for a potential organism."

The legend of an ape-like, or human-like, creature lurking in the mountains of western Canada and the United States goes back to a time before Europeans settled in the continent.

The word "sasquatch" was derived in the 1920s from tales of the Chehalis Indians in British Columbia.

Coltman's decision to test the hair drew media interest from around the world, although he had suspected from the beginning that the tufts came from a bison.

"People want to hold on to these myths that something unknown is possibly living in their backyard," Coltman said.

"I think it's highly unlikely that the sasquatch exists, however, it's not really scientific to disbelieve anything either. You must always maintain an objective mind," he said.

Coltman has since turned down a request from a Wisconsin woman to analyze fur from a wolf/man hybrid creature spotted frequently in the badger state.

The alleged Yukon sighting is not the first Big Foot report in Canada this year.

A resident of Norway House, Manitoba, (525 miles north of Winnipeg) shot videotape in April of what appeared to be a large, hairy, two-legged creature walking along the shore of Lake Winnipeg.

Copyright © 2005 Reuters Limited. All rights reserved.

[Sea-Witch]

Okay, I just saw the other post about hair testing down below. Sorry for the repost - my brain appears to have gone on vacation. Hehe.

[PoisonIvy]

OH NO!!!! Please don't let it be a Bigfoot! That's the one thing in this world that really creeps me out! If a show comes on about it.....forget about sleepin'!

[Rick]

DNA tests squelch Canadian sasquatch discovery

Researchers said on Thursday that a mysterious clump of hair found in the Yukon Territory is from a North American bison and not from the elusive ape-like sasquatch, or Big Foot, said to haunt the woods of western Canada.
WOW!!! ... Bigfoot is a mutant buffalo!!!

[Nighthawk]

Well, someone was working overtime.. Because this buffalo can walk on two feet. What a talented buffalo. My hat is offf to him. (or her)

[Xander67]

Hey, maybe Bigfoot had Bisen for dinner? :whatgives:

I dont think 9 people especially kids would make that up... Maybe the Sasquatch is a Kin (geneticly to the Bisen?)

[justicefried]

Well like i have posted in a previous thread, something is out there, ive heard it, and friends claim to have seen it, i am however to scared to go out at night when i am at thier house to prove it true ... LOL, but i hope we never find it, and if we do i hope it eats whoever trys to capture it .. run big foot run!

[Ben Gruagach]

Hey, maybe Bigfoot had Bisen for dinner? :whatgives:

I dont think 9 people especially kids would make that up... Maybe the Sasquatch is a Kin (geneticly to the Bisen?)

Kids are some of the easiest people to convince that they saw something that wasn't really there... like Santa Claus, or the Easter Bunny, or the Tooth Fairy.

People who want to believe are pretty easy to convince.

[LordHelmet]

He's right you know...

I remember ow convinced I was as a kid that the house next door was haunted, it's not that I now no longer believe in hauntings, quite the opposite actually, but looking back on it I had some really silly reasons.

[Old Witch]

I really hope no one proves anything one way or the other...And Bigfoot continues to live in peace........

[Valnorran]

I kinda hope it is not true, simply because I am afraid of what we would do to them if we found them.
I participate on a bigfoot message board. They're very no-nonsense, have exceptional talent at spotting phonies, and make wide use of critical thinking. A common topic is "What would you do if you had absolute proof?" or "Would you kill a bigfoot to prove its existence?" I was somewhat gratified at the number of people who said they wouldn't kill one to have absolute proof. I was also surprised at the number who said if they had absolute proof they'd keep their mouths shut for fear of repercussions, one of which being every armed yahoo taking to the woods to bag a bigfoot. There's been some interesting discussions on legal and personal ramifications, too. I found I was in the same category as most others - I'd shoot in self defense, but that's all.

I started out studying bigfoot because it's my childhood bogeyman. For some reason it creeped me out much more than any other animal I've read about, real, crypto, or mythological. I was desperate to convince myself it isn't real. After years of reading about the subject I'm not conviced it's real or fake, but I find myself hoping it's real.

[Gareth]

Not trying to be a jerk.
Don't they ALWAYS see bigfoot in the Yukon?

It makes me wonder what's in the water up there.
I'm not saying there isn't a bigfoot, but he's always up there in the Yukon or somewhere where not very many people live.
Which makes sense because he probably wouldn't want human contact, we are such noisy creatures.

So this time 9 people saw him.
Or did they make it up?

If some of you remember a man filmed a 'bigfoot' walking, only to come out like 30 years later to say he faked it.
These 'bigfoot' hunters would refer to this film like a bible!

Besides the footprints in the snow or mud, I'd like to see some real proof.

I know eventually someone will come up with real proof whether or not 'bigfoot' exists.
With all the technology we have I think someone would have caught one by now.
So until that day comes, I don't think I can truly believe much of those claims.

[Valnorran]

If some of you remember a man filmed a 'bigfoot' walking, only to come out like 30 years later to say he faked it.
These 'bigfoot' hunters would refer to this film like a bible!
If you're referring to the Patterson-Gimlin film shot at Bluff Creek, California in 1967, you are mistaken. Neither man said it was faked. Patterson is dead, but I believe Gimlin is still around, and he firmly believed what they filmed was the real deal.

Besides the footprints in the snow or mud, I'd like to see some real proof.
Some footprints have shown dermal ridges that were arranged in patterns not seen on human feet or primate feet. They have been examined by a man named Jimmy Chillicutt, who does fingerprint analysis for police. Some tracks he's examined he pronounced forgeries. Others convinced him bigfoot is real.

With all the technology we have I think someone would have caught one by now.

Don't be too sure. If this animal exists, it is large, immensly powerful, and probably pretty damn smart. As a primate, it also probably spends very little time alone, so if you want to catch or kill one you'd probably have to deal with his friends. You would need a large, very well equipped crew, and it would have to work in remote locations. The first trick is to find the animal. Once you do that, you then have to bring it down. Then you're faced with the obstacle of transporting the body back to civilization. Not an easy proposition at all.

[Gareth]

If you're referring to the Patterson-Gimlin film shot at Bluff Creek, California in 1967, you are mistaken. Neither man said it was faked. Patterson is dead, but I believe Gimlin is still around, and he firmly believed what they filmed was the real deal.

Yes, I remember Patterson revealing the film to be a fake on his death bed.
I'm pretty sure of it.

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Ok, after a lot of research....
I remember hearing about it being faked.
Those claims were from John Landis.

I probably just thought it was Patterson who said it.

[Ben Gruagach]

Yes, I remember Patterson revealing the film to be a fake on his death bed.
I'm pretty sure of it.

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Ok, after a lot of research....
I remember hearing about it being faked.
Those claims were from John Landis.

I probably just thought it was Patterson who said it.

There's a pretty extensive discussion of the Patterson-Gimlin film at Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patterson-Gimlin_film) that includes some of the attempts to debunk it.

Personally, I think it's a hoax.

[Laisrean]

I believe the patterson/gimlin film to be authentic. If it is a fake then it is far superior to anything hollywood could conjur up at the time (look at planet of the apes).

I believe bigfoot to be a real animal, but it is also a possibility it is some supernatural phenomenon and if that is the case then that would explain the lack of evidence.

[Valnorran]

There's a pretty extensive discussion of the Patterson-Gimlin film at Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patterson-Gimlin_film) that includes some of the attempts to debunk it.

Personally, I think it's a hoax.
I'm undecided, though the incredible detail of the film's subject, combined with the resources available at the time and Patterson's *ahem* modest financial situation makes me lean towards it being genuine. Still, one never knows. I wish somebody like "Mythbusters" would try to reproduce it, using only the technology available in 1967. I've only seen one attempt to reproduce it, and they didn't even come close.

[LadyTrinity]

If he is real, what would that mean?
Is he the former humans who over time changed into what we are?
Or are there breeding bigfoots?
Why wouldn't they have changed into what we are by now?
Would this mean if Big foot exists, then so does Nessie, Chubakaba and other unusual species?

[LadyTrinity]

This is supposed to be a real picture of our canadian Sasquatch
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/ricksbabe_21/normal_foot.jpg

[Valnorran]

If he is real, what would that mean?
Is he the former humans who over time changed into what we are?
Or are there breeding bigfoots?
Why wouldn't they have changed into what we are by now?
Would this mean if Big foot exists, then so does Nessie, Chubakaba and other unusual species?
A popular theory is that bigfoot is (or is a descendant of) gigantopithicus, a giant ape known to have lived in prehistoric Asia. Unfortunately, only teeth and jawbones have been found, not a whole skeleton. In fact, I don't think they've even found an entire skull, so we can only speculate about its appearance and we can't compare it with what we think bigfoot looks like.

Just because one crypto exists, though, doesn't mean others do. Personally I think Nessie has been debunked, and I never bought the chupucabra.

[Valnorran]

This is supposed to be a real picture of our canadian Sasquatch
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/ricksbabe_21/normal_foot.jpg
Sorry, it's just a treestump. I think a large portion of bigfoot sightings are just misidentifications.

[Laisrean]

Sorry, it's just a treestump. I think a large portion of bigfoot sightings are just misidentifications.

Looked to me like an Orangutan at first, but now that you mention it I do see it as a tree stump.

[Trithemius]

If he is real, what would that mean?

It would mean that there is a large, unclassified-by-science primate living in the forests of North America. It would also mean that as much as some people like to think it, science doesn't know everything yet.


Is he the former humans who over time changed into what we are?

No. The most likely candidate for Bigfoot is a large Miocene ape known as Gigantopithecus. It lived in China anywhere from 6.5 to 13 million years ago to as recently as 500,000 years ago. The only fossils that have been found are a few teeth and sections of jaw, so there isn't much to go on. But from the size of the fossils, it's been estimated that Gigantopithecus stood as much as ten feet tall and weighed from 700 to 1200 pounds. It's possible (this is speculation) that it could have crossed into North America on the land bridge that humans came across on.


Or are there breeding bigfoots?

There would have to be a breeding population for the species to have survived all this time, and one estimate of the size of one of these populations is around 2000 individuals in the Pacific Northwest.


Why wouldn't they have changed into what we are by now?

Gigantopithecus, if that is in fact what Bigfoot is, was not in the line of ancestry for humans. It had a different evolutionary path, the way chimps and gorillas had a different evolutionary path than humans. There is some thought that it has evolved over time into what we recognize as Bigfoot today, but of course this isn't proven.


Would this mean if Big foot exists, then so does Nessie, Chubakaba and other unusual species?

Not necessarily. It would prove that the possibility exists, but nothing more.

[Valnorran]

Looked to me like an Orangutan at first, but now that you mention it I do see it as a tree stump.
I saw this particular photo debunked somewhere. I think it was Bobbi Short's site "Bigfoot Encounters." It's an excellent site with reports, exposed hoaxes, and some of the classic bigfoot stories.

[Sea-Witch]

I started out studying bigfoot because it's my childhood bogeyman. For some reason it creeped me out much more than any other animal I've read about, real, crypto, or mythological. I was desperate to convince myself it isn't real. After years of reading about the subject I'm not conviced it's real or fake, but I find myself hoping it's real.

I can so relate to the childhood bogeyman. Bigfoot was mine, too. I remember a newspaper article about a school bus driver in BC's Fraser Valley, who reported a bigfoot crossing the highway ahead of him. He said he stopped the bus and got out. The bigfoot stopped briefly on the other side of the road, looked at him, and then disappeared into the trees. He gave the standard report of it being huge and hairy and said it smelled really bad, like rotten meat.

It's funny I remember that after all these years! At the time, it really freaked me out even though I lived in Ontario and was practically on the other side of the country. LOL

[misschief]

hey.. when i was a kid, the adults use to threaten us with mothman.... i lived like 45 past the WV border, that crap will scare ya when you're little!!! lol