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Silver Venus
November 5th, 2001, 03:30 PM
A powerful rune!

Nauthiz stands for need and fire its a very primal, need rune relating to the persons needs, or even subconsciuos needs and wants.
Its the Devil of the runes and can stand for force, bondage, friction against the querrant but can also be a strong motivsating force of the querrant. they could be biulding in strength, showing too much strength such as violence or be a posiitve strength building the querrants ego and a motivating force.
All this I think its a very contradictory rune! Just like the Devil card in Tarot.
It can show imbalances and balances that are needed.. the only way to know is to search deep down and work with this rune for the answers.

It can also be used magically to repel a spell or to give strength and power to the caster.

What does everyone else think?
:)

UnSolon
November 5th, 2001, 07:31 PM
Nauthiz... yep pretty much the same meaning as you have for it.

Need, Necessity, the strength of need. Pain, hardship, poverty...

However it can also be a sign of something to be learned... a lesson you should not miss. A lesson through hardship, which when you come out on the other side, you will be stronger, better equiped. It reminds you that all of life is a huge classroom.

Lol

peace... (wunjo)

Emy
November 7th, 2001, 03:45 AM
Naud; Nödrunan in swedish which would translate to something like rune of need...

Stands for: The necessary, fate, past, present and future. This is the rune of the Nornorna (Urd, Skuld and Verdandi). When you draw naud it might tell us that there is some difficulties in ones life, but also that it is necessary for one to get through them, to overcome them. Naud incourages you to keep moving, keep fighting even though it seems hard. Naud sometimes suggests a challenge, one that will bring you hard work and resistance... That is fate, and you now need to focus your mind and not waste energy on little things in your life. What is happening, happens because you need to get on with your life, it is necessary for your development.
Wear this rune when you need energy and power to get through with the difficulties in your life. When you need help accepting what is going on in your life.

It is also associated with the tarot card Justice....

Blessings

Silver Venus
November 7th, 2001, 06:49 AM
Great posts guys! I agree totally! & youve both gave me new things to think about with this rune :) Thanks!

So come on everyone else.. take up this Challenge rune!:ghost:

Radocs
November 7th, 2001, 11:08 AM
I've seen this rune identified as "Nied". Has anyone else seen this?

Silver Venus
November 9th, 2001, 05:35 AM
Yes I have it fits in with Need ~ Nied/Need!

I did a quick search and found this really interesting page too
http://haligwaerstow.ealdriht.org/runemed.html

Nied / Nauthiz / Need

I walk forward, called by Nied. I see a black pool in front of me; as I kneel beside it to look in, I realize it is Wyrd's well, in a different place. It looks as dark as Mimir's Well. As I kneel beside it, my idis Eadgitha comes beside me, laying her hand on my shoulder.

What is Nied? Need to know, need understanding, need wisdom. Without these: poverty, constriction, constraints that one thrashes and struggles blindly against, getting nowhere. I bend and slide into the pool, floating face-downwards, a cord around my ankle held by Eadgitha. Now I slide up on the opposite bank, feeling soaked, washed into a different shape. An owl. The wet sleeves of my gown hang from my arms like wings, cupping the air. I let myself sink backwards into owlness. My heart beats differently, my breath is different, my posture more erect. The posture makes me feel arrogant, queenly, warrior-like, as does the power of my eyes, golden and black. I walk a few steps forward, feeling the grass and crumbly earth under my furry talons, then spring into lumbering flight. Breath and wingbeats match rhythm as I glide the patterns of the night air.

Nied. I grasp the rune in my talons as I fly. It feels prickly with energy, as though covered with tiny thorns. Heavy and solid. I raise Nied to my beak to tear at it--it is my py. I fly to the Well and land on it, becoming a white swan, webbed feet paddling in the dark water, head & neck curved over it in contemplation. The water has the same prickly tingle, the same feeling of energy, that I felt in Nied.

At the edge of the well by some rocks, a woman is washing clothes. Slapping and rubbing them on the rocks, getting them clean. Knead. Need. Squeezing and rinsing, intently focused on her work. I glide closer to her, the ripples wash around me. She looks up, moves her hand in a gentle gesture, and my head is draped with a golden veil, a queen's bridal veil.

Now I am again a woman. From behind me, a man's hand reaches, brushing aside the veil and stroking my cheek tenderly. I recognize the touch: it is Ing Frea's. Nied. So much yet needed to understand his mains and mysteries in all their depth, to know how to take what he gives. He reaches under my veil to rub the back of my neck. I feel relaxed. In all my forms, woman and bird, I feel focused, at one with myself, intent and alert, but calm. I feel my shoulders mold again into powerful white-feathered wings. I shape myself to the patterns of the air, leap, and bend the air to my wings.

Now I am a gyrfalcon; Ing holds up his gloved fist and I perch, his arm sinking a little under my weight. The grain-gold king: I ride with him, perched on his shoulder. Every step of his blesses the land, and golden light rises up around us.

Nied. The land needs him, our folk need him, I need him. His life is our life. I spread my wings, raising a white canopy of feathers over his head to honor him. Mound-god. The mounds glow in blessing as he strides by them. Nied. The cycle of life and death and life again, all touched with his love, blessing, richness, his speed. He answers need. Fulfillment's father! I rub my feathered cheek against his bearded one and feel him smile.

I shift from foot to foot on his shoulder, forth-yearning: I am ready, feeling the currents of will and power flowing from him, ready to fly forth on them, as Woden's ravens fly on his will-wind. Ing Frea's will and power respond to Nied, need of the land and the folk. The meeting and blending of our need and his power generates the golden light, the waves of air-currents to be ridden. I fly!

Rick
November 14th, 2001, 06:09 PM
Nauthiz is the antithesis of Wunjo. Wunjo best translates as "wishes fulfilled." Nauthiz best translates as "wishes unfulfilled." Nauthiz is the Rune of the past, & in a reading, often indicates feelings of regret or guilt associated with past events or actions, & that it's time to deal with these feelings. The past is important: it shaped today, as today shapes tomorrow. But the past is a ghost town- you can't live there.

The shape of Nauthiz is a fire bow. It represents the need-fire, the cold fire, the unsparked fire. Nauthiz is a Rune of potential, of the fire waiting to be sparked off.

UnSolon
November 14th, 2001, 08:20 PM
A point about Wunjo, and I agree with it being the antithisis of Nauthiz. Wunjo also means Peace, contentment, happiness. So as Nauthiz represents need, and things being unfullfilled, wunjo is the other side.

Ying Yang idea all over again...

Peace

Silver Venus
November 15th, 2001, 09:06 AM
Good points about Wunjo and Nauthiz! Ill remeber Wun and Nau ~ Yin and Yang!
thanks guys :)

Flar's Freyja
April 16th, 2002, 04:36 PM
Nauthiz is definitely a powerful rune. I recently used it to avoid contact with a certain individual who had harassed me at work. I projected it onto the doors of the building and he did not come back for several weeks. Once he did show his face again, I continued to project and did not have to have any contact with him....

Flar's Freyja
May 28th, 2002, 08:11 AM
Key Words: Need, help, resistance, deliverance from distress, love, passion, shadow self

Tree: Beech
Herb: Bistort:huh:
Gemstones: Hematite, obsidian, onyx, smoky quartz
Color: Black
Hour of the Day: 9:30 p.m. - 10:30 p.m.
God/Goddess: Skuld - Norn who rules the future and in turn, death
Power Animals: Wolf, dragon, hound, fox, squirrel, spider, cuckoo, serpent, crow, donkey, firefly, flea, meerkat, moth
Element: Fire
Numerological Value: 10
Astrology: Capricorn
Tarot: The Fool

From The Little Giant Encyclopedia of Runes by Sirona Knight

Flar's Freyja
May 31st, 2002, 10:54 PM
bump

manstranger
June 24th, 2002, 07:55 PM
So, would you agree that Nauthiz could represent the need for something to change, as well as the vehicle of that change like Freyja said?

Rick
June 24th, 2002, 10:03 PM
In short, yes...

Here's the best way I can think of to describe the 'feel' of Nauthiz:

You're lost in the woods... it's dark & snowing & you're cold & wet... the wind is howling... you feel as if you just can't take another step... it would feel sooooo good to just lie down & give up... then you find a bit of shelter, & manage to scrape together some wood that might be dry enough to make a fire... you take out your firebow, & you work & work & work... but the wood just won't quite catch fire... so you work the firebow a little longer... & a little longer... & a little longer...

In my example the 'need for change' is the need to change from cold & wet to warm & dry... Nauthiz can be the tool, or vehicle, to use to accomplish that change... but understand that Nauthiz doesn't provide the energy to drive that change (in that sense, Nauthiz is 'passive')... that drive must come from within one's self... one must have the will to keep working the firebow, to not give up & quit, 'til enough heat is generated to spark the fire...

Flar's Freyja
October 19th, 2002, 07:23 AM
In the pagan wheel of the year, Nauthiz corresponds to Samhain along with Hagalaz and Wunjo. Samhain is the time when the veil between the worlds between life and death thins, which opens communication between the two realms. Wunjo represents Odhinn in his shaman aspect as he consults the dead by raising the volva (wise woman, sorceress). Hagalaz represents the volva and Nauthiz represents Odhinn's state of dire need as he sets out to find the interpretation of Baldur's dream.