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Penthesilea
August 10th, 2005, 10:16 PM
I found this while roaming around the Web. I'm intrigued although I could wish for more detail. What do you think?

www.theepochtimes.com/news/5-8-7/31030.html

spirit wind
August 10th, 2005, 11:17 PM
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Penthesilea
August 10th, 2005, 11:54 PM
:( It's down for maintenance :(So I just found out -- much to my annoyance. I'll be interested to see if the pictures I saw earlier are still there tomorrow......

spirit wind
August 11th, 2005, 02:20 AM
Well, there are photos but I can't tell what I am looking at. Pretty photos though :)

Valnorran
August 11th, 2005, 08:28 AM
I don't think anyone wishes this is true more than I, but I shouldn't let that desire override my brain. In this day of digital technology, a photo is damn near worthless as evidence.

Laisrean
August 11th, 2005, 08:43 AM
I believe dragons are a possibility. They couldn't be real life animals, but they could be some sort of spiritual manifestation.

Even if these pictures turn out to be fake it doesn't disprove the possibility they exist.

Penthesilea
August 11th, 2005, 09:10 AM
I don't think anyone wishes this is true more than I, but I shouldn't let that desire override my brain. In this day of digital technology, a photo is damn near worthless as evidence.So true. You'd practically need a live specimen to prove anything these days. But I'm finding the increasing frequency of such sightings intriguing.

Druchii
August 11th, 2005, 09:17 AM
The images don't show enough detail in my honest opinion to dictate that it is any living creature, much less specifically a dragon.

In the original uncropped version of the photo, I have an arrow pointing to what the photographer was calling parts of the dragons that were sighted in the sky over tibet.

http://www.mysticwicks.com/photoalbum/albums/userpics/18133/tibetdragonemphasis01.jpg

Here below is a zoom in of the area highlighted above. There appears to be a face like area in it at the tapering end of one of the "necks" but even this with the dubious colouration in these photos, makes it easy for the eye to fill in the details,... even the ones that are not there.

http://www.mysticwicks.com/photoalbum/albums/userpics/18133/normal_tibetdragonszoom.jpg

In Tibet there are many aspects of the ground that from the air have a shape simular to what he had photographed.

My stance is that it is pretty close to a misidentification, and not necessarily a full blown hoax.

Valnorran
August 11th, 2005, 09:58 AM
So true. You'd practically need a live specimen to prove anything these days. But I'm finding the increasing frequency of such sightings intriguing.
Where did you hear/read about these sightings? I'm unfamiliar with them and they sound interesting.

Druchii
August 11th, 2005, 10:08 AM
I would love input on this Indonesian animal. I have no clue what it is, I just got the image sent to me a while back.

http://imageserver4.textamerica.com/user.images.x/94/IMG_452294/_0729/TZ200729130647491.jpg

Any input and feedback would be appreciated.

( Dragon fish have already been discounted, they don't even remotely look like this )

Druchii
August 11th, 2005, 10:21 AM
While on this note as well, an often overlooked but feasible entry to many of these sighting could very well be possibly attributed to larger undiscovered sub-species of the Flying Dragon Lizard ( Draco volan ), that could be over the average length of 12 inches, which is as large as any of the currently known species can get.

I love these guys... :D

http://www.mysticwicks.com/photoalbum/albums/userpics/18133/flyingLizard.jpg

Penthesilea
August 11th, 2005, 04:13 PM
Where did you hear/read about these sightings? I'm unfamiliar with them and they sound interesting.I usually find them on Coast to Coast AM or The Unknown Country (sorry, don't have the addresses at hand), some things I've heard by word of mouth from friends (some of whom are on this board). The last few years have seen an increase in reports of "odd" animal sightings in Southern Indiana which leave footprints behind and sometimes photos. These get reported in the media, the Dept. of Natural Resources moves in, says they haven't a clue and the whole thing goes away... For these type of sightings, there are three possible explanations. First, an escaped exotic animal that is recaptured or killed by it's owner and the body disposed of. Second, a hoax and three, a momentary incursion into this reality by something native to another reality. In this last instance, no one in government is going to admit that they don't know what is going on, so they let the story die as the media types move on to the next story. Of the things I've just heard of, the most interesting is the sighting of a griffon and a group of dragons in the sky over Kansas City by a friend of a friend who swears that he was sober at the time. Since I trust my friend and she knows the man who saw them, I'm inclined to give it credence in absence of reasons not to. What she has heard but cannot comfirm is that thunderbirds have been sighted on Indian Reservations in the West. If they have been spotted, it would be perfectly understandable why the Native Americans would keep it to themselves. (Can you say "Media Circus"?) All in all, I'm finding this a fascinating time to be alive. If I run across any more interesting occurances on my wanderings, I'll post them here.

Druchii
August 11th, 2005, 04:35 PM
What she has heard but cannot comfirm is that thunderbirds have been sighted on Indian Reservations in the West. If they have been spotted, it would be perfectly understandable why the Native Americans would keep it to themselves. (Can you say "Media Circus"?) All in all, I'm finding this a fascinating time to be alive. If I run across any more interesting occurances on my wanderings, I'll post them here.


You just have to look and ask the right Native Americans. :)

The Boy and the Giant Feather (http://www.angelfire.com/realm/bodhisattva/giant-feather.html)

Valnorran
August 11th, 2005, 04:40 PM
I usually find them on Coast to Coast AM or The Unknown Country (sorry, don't have the addresses at hand), some things I've heard by word of mouth from friends (some of whom are on this board). The last few years have seen an increase in reports of "odd" animal sightings in Southern Indiana which leave footprints behind and sometimes photos. These get reported in the media, the Dept. of Natural Resources moves in, says they haven't a clue and the whole thing goes away... For these type of sightings, there are three possible explanations. First, an escaped exotic animal that is recaptured or killed by it's owner and the body disposed of. Second, a hoax and three, a momentary incursion into this reality by something native to another reality. In this last instance, no one in government is going to admit that they don't know what is going on, so they let the story die as the media types move on to the next story. Of the things I've just heard of, the most interesting is the sighting of a griffon and a group of dragons in the sky over Kansas City by a friend of a friend who swears that he was sober at the time. Since I trust my friend and she knows the man who saw them, I'm inclined to give it credence in absence of reasons not to. What she has heard but cannot comfirm is that thunderbirds have been sighted on Indian Reservations in the West. If they have been spotted, it would be perfectly understandable why the Native Americans would keep it to themselves. (Can you say "Media Circus"?) All in all, I'm finding this a fascinating time to be alive. If I run across any more interesting occurances on my wanderings, I'll post them here.
Yeah, I've heard of a few thunderbird sightings. Coast to Coast I don't trust, but I'll give Unknown Country a try, maybe cruise the links page on different cryptozoology sites. It'll be an interesting exercise in critical thinking for me. I desperately want dragons to be real but, well check my first sig line.

Laisrean
August 11th, 2005, 05:23 PM
Mysterious America by Loren Coleman is not a bad book if you are into cryptozoology and other weird phenomena. It has a chapter or two on the thunderbird, I believe, unless I am thinking of a different book...

Penthesilea
August 11th, 2005, 06:04 PM
Yeah, I've heard of a few thunderbird sightings. Coast to Coast I don't trust, but I'll give Unknown Country a try, maybe cruise the links page on different cryptozoology sites. It'll be an interesting exercise in critical thinking for me. I desperately want dragons to be real but, well check my first sig line.I agree. Being openminded doesn't mean allowing your brains to fall out! :lol:

Avanti
August 16th, 2005, 01:20 AM
yeah my mum showed me these pictures. She's always had very vivid awesome sometimes terrifying dreams of chinese dragons, "swimming" in the sky or charging straight at her. She thinks it' her being called back to China. Are they really that colour or is it the photo? Clouds often have that scaly affect, like the soles of some shoes. I'm wondering if it's a coincidence that stated in the article a black dragon fell in Heilongjiang. Which literally means black dragon river.

Gwendolyn 8
August 19th, 2005, 11:31 AM
this is really interesting, I had no clue there have been *dragon* sightings... If they are not hoaxes then the 3rd reason Penthesilea mentined seems a good explanation.

Druchii
August 19th, 2005, 12:04 PM
this is really interesting, I had no clue there have been *dragon* sightings... If they are not hoaxes then the 3rd reason Penthesilea mentined seems a good explanation.


They happen, but sightings and existance are the bugger in this factor.
Just like in art, your eyes will fill in the details in a painting when they aren't even there.