Struggling Empath Suport Thread

[Bethra]

Ok people here's your place to off load. I know just recently there have been a lot of cries for help from empaths who have got a little covered in gunk. We've all been there, we've all bathed in the muddy puddles and needed some help washing it away. This is partly why the original empathic bunker thread was started and I'm sure those who began it would be really pleased to find out it has a proper home now.

So I guess I'll just introduce myself a little here and let you all know what I'm about. I don't know when I became an empath. I don't know how it got started or when I realised I had this ability. I guess you could say it's something I've always been I just didn't always have a name for it. Over the years it's been other people who have told me that I have this empathic ability. For me it was normal, I didn't know that not everyone experiances this. In recent times I've come to realise that there are times when this ability can be a blessing and then other times when it's a curse. through sheilding I've learnt to aprichiate the blessing over the curse but I fully understand when others speek of it as a double edged sword.

Now I've reached a point where I try to keep my empathic abilities to only help those who need it the most and those who will use the help to help themselves. I'm a front liner, I help suport the other empaths who are out their sporting the world. Someones got to help you guys out when it gets too much right???? :D Well thats what this place is about helping eachother out. :hugz:

[Shadowsong]

Hello Bethra! *waves*
*stands up from one of those hard wooden chairs* Hello, my name is Shadow and I am an empath. *nods*
Well I don't really know, like Bethra, how or when I became an empath. I've always felt very strongly the emotions of others but didn't really realize what was happening until recently.
Lately I've really been struggling with... helping people... because as I do so... I tend to take their problems, their pain, on as my own, and now it's gotten so far that I can't really distinguish mine from theirs anymore.... and.... well yeah.... *sighs* I've tried a variety of shielding techniques and nothing's really helped. *ponders*
*waves to everyone else and sits back down*
all done! roflmao
Shadow :sadman:

[Bethra]

Hello Bethra! *waves*
*stands up from one of those hard wooden chairs* Hello, my name is Shadow and I am an empath. *nods*
Well I don't really know, like Bethra, how or when I became an empath. I've always felt very strongly the emotions of others but didn't really realize what was happening until recently.
Lately I've really been struggling with... helping people... because as I do so... I tend to take their problems, their pain, on as my own, and now it's gotten so far that I can't really distinguish mine from theirs anymore.... and.... well yeah.... *sighs* I've tried a variety of shielding techniques and nothing's really helped. *ponders*
*waves to everyone else and sits back down*
all done! roflmao
Shadow :sadman:

ROFLMAO That is just what I had a feeling this thread would turn out to be :lol: Ah thank you for picking up the humour level. We all need to laugh more :D

The problem you just outlined about loosing yourself in the emotions of other people very much fit with my experiance of it all. I've found it very hard to work out where the other person ends and I begin at times. It's made me numb at times like I'm overloaded with so much feeling that I short circet and can't feel anything. For me I had to go right back to the begining and teach myself to feel for myself again. I looked at pictures of places I'd been with people when I had to put my feelings on hold or when other peoples emotions crowded in on me and swomped me. I revisited those places in my imagination, alown so I could feel the emotions the places stured up in myself. I put aside the feelings of others in those moments and learnt to experiance my own feelings. I learnt to recognise my inner voice so that I could distingwish it from everyone elses. I learnt to listern to my heart I guess and through that little voice behind the clamour of all the others I found out where I begin and everyone else ends inside me. I guess I found ME.

I recomend this picture method to everyone. Better still go to these places alone and see the effect they have on you yourself. I'll sort out a thread of stimulating pictures to help you all to see what I mean about stimulating your own inner voices and learning to hear it. They don't all have to be happy pictorial memories sometimes we need to feel our own pain too, but just something to make you feel for yourself. A memory to remind you.

[Brenda]

*Looks around nervously*
Hi, I'm Brenda and I'm an empath as well (otherwise I wouldn't be here, but anyway)
I know exactly when I became an empath, I've always been able to feel what my close friends were feeling, but since about a year and a half, things have become a lot worse.
Just from one day to another, I started to pick up strong emotions, like sadness and anger, but by now I can easily pick up all emotions, and I just can't do anything anymore to keep them out. :scream:
I've tried different shielding techniques like the one with the mirrors or the bubble, but I can't keep it up for a long time, *sighs* I just feel so drained and it seems that when I'm shielding, I can't be bothered anymore when someone is telling me something.
:sadman: :wah:

[Contra Mundum]

this sounds like an AA meeting !! *hides under the table*
not that i've ever been to one :seehearsp .
i'll let this thread be for a while not in the mood to share. :whatgives

[Bethra]

*Looks around nervously*
Hi, I'm Brenda and I'm an empath as well (otherwise I wouldn't be here, but anyway)
I know exactly when I became an empath, I've always been able to feel what my close friends were feeling, but since about a year and a half, things have become a lot worse.
Just from one day to another, I started to pick up strong emotions, like sadness and anger, but by now I can easily pick up all emotions, and I just can't do anything anymore to keep them out. :scream:
I've tried different shielding techniques like the one with the mirrors or the bubble, but I can't keep it up for a long time, *sighs* I just feel so drained and it seems that when I'm shielding, I can't be bothered anymore when someone is telling me something.
:sadman: :wah:


Have a look at my thread about finding your own emotions. I think it might help you a little because your problems sound very like my own. I know this methode helped me no end and maybe it can help you also. I don't think it's possible to set up a proper sheild untill you can seperate your emotions from everyone elses. If you try then the best you can hope for is a sheild that is full on blocking you from even experiancing your own emotions or totaly off letting everythin over whelm you.

[Teresa]

this sounds like an AA meeting !! *hides under the table*
not that i've ever been to one :seehearsp .
i'll let this thread be for a while not in the mood to share. :whatgives
Too bad we don't have it down to a science of a 12 step program already! _tomatoe_ _whistle_

[Gwenhwyfar]

I can feel other peoples emotions, not so much with people I know well, more so with strangers...I don't know why that is but it is. Im the most empathetic with animals, even on TV, I cant watch any shows with animal cruelty, I literally bawl my eyes out, I can feel the fear and pain that animal is feeling. Its brutal. I have problems watching the news and shows like 'save the wolves" where they show the poaching and stuff actually happening...It rips at my heart and soul. Its usually to much for me to handle so I don't watch TV much.

Sometimes its a good thing, but for me it usually isn't. It kinda sucks. Sometimes I wish I could feel less. It must be nice to only have to worry about what your feeling.

[Pesha]

I have to avoid certain situations, movies and tv and books. If any of it involves animals or chidren being hurt, I have really distence myself. It hits me so strongly that I become a real sob case. I have tried many things to help overcome this aspect but to no availe. So I have learned to just avoid these things mentioned.

BB
DS.

[Shadowsong]

Does anyone feel some emotions more strongly than others... or do you become affected by others more strongly? Like... I REALLY struggle with negative emotions... not my own personal ones but those from others... I mean I can see why this happens cause honestly who DOESN'T wanna feel happy--even if it's someone else's happiness and not their own feelings???... hmmm. That's my problem, I just... get so much negativity and really do lose myself in that and... yeah. I think I need to find a way to somehow seperate my emotions from others but it's gone so far I'm wondering how I'd do that...? I've read somewhere about a glass wall.... but here's my problem: I'm visually impaired so all of this stuff about visualizing say light or a glass wall or something I can't really do... any ideas? Is it more a thing of _feeling_ and _believing_ it--the protection--is there?
(and yes this does sound like an AA meeting--but believe me, I'm 15 and haven't been to one... just heard. ;) )

[SammieAnn]

i get all the negative emotions of other people as well as their physical pain and illness symptoms. It really drives me crazy that I dont know everytime I am sick if its mine or not. In the last 3 years I have had broncitis 6 times ans sinus infections 8 times. as well as back spasums and muscle aches and feeling like I have arthritis. I have talked to neibors at times and they would tell me that they were not feeling well and where they hurt and how long they hurt. I would know it to be trueas I would of felt bad same spot and same amount of time. I have been an empath since I was a child, but it seams that my empath gift grew to this extreme around the time I gave birth to my son. I am to the point that I do not leave my house other then work unless I absolutly have to. I have tried all kinds of excercises and wall to block, but nothing seams to help. I am almost to the point of going to the doctor and getting them to put me on antidepressants

[Lunacie]

Shadowsong, I have a friend who simply cannot shield herself. When she really feels she needs a shield she asks Mom (the goddess) to create a shield for her. That might work for you.

A simple shield that lets you stay connected to others yet gives you each your own space for feelings is to visualize a figure 8 with each of you in one of the circles, separate yet still connected.

[Pesha]

Speaking of feeling strong emotions. I used to know a married couple who fought all the time. The husband was sadly and energy vamp. If they really had a bad fight I would jerk and shake and have muscle spasms. It was awful because you never knew when they go at it and so I had no chance to strengthen my sheilds. Got so I had to be sheilded all the time until they moved very far away and I coould hardly ever feel them. Now days I never feel them anymore.

Pain is another thing that I feel strongly. Being a nurse I had to learn how to handle it all and that is when I came up with my Wall of Glass.

BB
DS.

[Lunacie]

Speaking of feeling strong emotions. I used to know a married couple who fought all the time. The husband was sadly and energy vamp. If they really had a bad fight I would jerk and shake and have muscle spasms. It was awful because you never knew when they go at it and so I had no chance to strengthen my sheilds. Got so I had to be sheilded all the time until they moved very far away and I coould hardly ever feel them. Now days I never feel them anymore.

Pain is another thing that I feel strongly. Being a nurse I had to learn how to handle it all and that is when I came up with my Wall of Glass.

BB
DS.

Sounds like you knew my ex and I. As hard as it was for us to be around us - I can only imagine what it was like for others to be around us.

[Earthy]

Ok people here's your place to off load. I know just recently there have been a lot of cries for help from empaths who have got a little covered in gunk. We've all been there, we've all bathed in the muddy puddles and needed some help washing it away. This is partly why the original empathic bunker thread was started and I'm sure those who began it would be really pleased to find out it has a proper home now.

So I guess I'll just introduce myself a little here and let you all know what I'm about. I don't know when I became an empath. I don't know how it got started or when I realised I had this ability. I guess you could say it's something I've always been I just didn't always have a name for it. Over the years it's been other people who have told me that I have this empathic ability. For me it was normal, I didn't know that not everyone experiances this. In recent times I've come to realise that there are times when this ability can be a blessing and then other times when it's a curse. through sheilding I've learnt to aprichiate the blessing over the curse but I fully understand when others speek of it as a double edged sword.

Now I've reached a point where I try to keep my empathic abilities to only help those who need it the most and those who will use the help to help themselves. I'm a front liner, I help suport the other empaths who are out their sporting the world. Someones got to help you guys out when it gets too much right???? :D Well thats what this place is about helping eachother out. :hugz:

For me:
I had quite a few bad childhood experiences so i basically had a shield of ice around my heart for a long time..i felt only a vague resemblance of love, and couldn't give or receive.
Then, about a year ago i began using positive affirmations, and also started keeping a rose quartz close to me, and slowly month by month, i could feel the ice around my heart being chipped away.

Now i can feel everything! So much love to give..i just feel i should be caring and helping people, i can feel the universal love too.
The trouble is, i also pick up on peoples hurts, and their moods..without being told they're moody..i sense it and it makes me feel sick.
I can sense people's moods just by chatting to them on MW or through MSN. I can connect to a few people just by visualising them, and have rightly diagnosed problems.

But right at the moment, i am struggling.
I don't feel depressed because i'm still doing my affirmations and feeling good about them.
I just feel distant, and seem to be avoiding the energy threads because i don't feel i'm strong enough to cope with them at the moment.
When i read them, its as if they're pain gets immediately transferred to me and i am in their shoes.
Does anybody else experience this?
I just seem to be lurking on the internet too at the moment, contact with people just seems so difficult at the moment..even those i love, and i shouldn't push them away.
I just feel so introspective.
Of course, i was deeply affected too by the deaths of MW members, then by hurricane Katrina and now by Rita.
I feel like i am shutting down again emotionally, and i don't want that. :(

[Contra Mundum]

But right at the moment, i am struggling.
I don't feel depressed because i'm still doing my affirmations and feeling good about them.
I just feel distant, and seem to be avoiding the energy threads because i don't feel i'm strong enough to cope with them at the moment.
When i read them, its as if they're pain gets immediately transferred to me and i am in their shoes.
Does anybody else experience this?
yep me,especially when i'm stuck on the rollercoaster.
it happened to me a few weeks ago and i had to leave the forum,it was so intense and i couldn't cope.


I just seem to be lurking on the internet too at the moment, contact with people just seems so difficult at the moment..even those i love, and i shouldn't push them away.
i have been noticing this ,hope things get better soon :smoochypo

your post makes so much sense to me.

[Akashic Brother]

I've had quite a time with empathy. I often scan people and always get a good idea of who they are and what they feel. Crowds are crazy for me, and I can not watch TV. I can seem to scan the air of a city as well. "The city is partying tonight!" or calm etc. Devil's night is a crazy feeling in the air. I've often felt that this is a burden or too much to deal with, but lately I am starting to accept and work with it. I am learning better shields and protection from vamps. It seems so obvious to me now.

[Dingo]

a few nights ago, I told a friend something "bad" was going to happen - I felt the energies but didn't know what they meant, just knew that they were not favorable. Bad is in quotes because it is a subjective word, in this sense. Many definitions of any given situation, one of them being "bad". The energies felt unfavorable, that's all.

Hours later my friend's grandmother passed. Before I knew this, the energies had subsided.

I, too, am an empath. I'll point you to this:
http://www.mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?t=107388
and you can read it if you like. I'm walled in and shielded, and have been for over 18 years. And I can't tell you how to shield, but I can do it at will. I still feel "people" trying to contact me, but can't get back to them. Like someone knocking on a door that won't open. Not even for me. Anyway... I experience everything I've read here, but still have blocks in my way. I don't know where I'm going with this...

My name is Jason.

[Lunacie]

Hi Jason/Dingo, welcome to the Empath Forum. The first time I realized that I was "knowing" (sensing, feeling) things was when I was 21 and I knew my grandmother was dying. I couldn't stand to wait around the house for a phone call so I took the baby for a walk. A couple of hours later I knew it was time to go home and be there when my mom called. And she did.

When my mom was dying 28 years later I knew when her spirit had left her body, about 48 hours before her body took it's last breath. I was surprised when the nurse came in to help me turn her and said she was "gone", to me she was already gone so it didn't blip on my psychic/empathic radar that it was all over.

[Pesha]

Hugs Earthy...Carol. Sweety don't shut down. I am here if you need to pm me or email me. Please talk about your feelings and let us help you. Alot of love is here and at other places we roam to.

BB
DS.

[Pesha]

Jason and dingo just want to say hello and welocme to the Empathic bunker. Alot of help and love is here for you.

BB
DS.

[Earthy]

Thanks DS..I appreciate it :hugz:
I've been through a phase like this before, it just feels harder to get through this time..but it'll get better :hugz:

[Lunacie]

Hey Earthy, I didn't mean to ignore your post, I have ADD and sometimes get distracted and then I forget what I was going to do. Sorry about that. I too experience times when I just want to veg out or be a hermit. Back when I was suffering from depression and hadn't learned to shield or distinguish others energies from my own, I would spend 6 days a week in the house, not going out until I had to go get groceries, and lived that way for years. I still have periods of a day or two, or as long as a week or two, when I don't check my email or answer the phone or the door, and only go out to get groceries or go through the fast food drive through.

The affirmations are a wonderful tool. They sure turned my life around. As a child I was not encouraged to feel good about myself and as an empath I picked up everyone else's unhappy energies - so as an adult it was very hard to believe anything good about myself. My first shield was too "all or nothing" and nothing much got through, but it gave me time to get used to my own feelings so that when I modified the filters on that shield it was easier for me to tell the difference between my feelings and the empathic feelings I was picking up from others.

Reading energy requests here can be overwhelming. I just thought about this, there is more than just the energy of the original poster, there is everyone else who has read that post (whether they only read or whether they also posted) and what they feel about what they're reading. And sometimes it reminds them of something in their past that they felt strongly about, eh? Those energy requests can pack quite a whallop.

When you're ready - start small - go into one energy request - if you immediately get hammered by the feelings try this...
~ minimize the window or close it
~ push yourself back away from the computer
~ close your eyes and picture white light energy coming from above your head,
flowing over you like water and washing away the feelings that are stuck to you.
~ Then feel that white light energy flowing into you like air as you breath and soothing the feelings that were already within you. This should help you to feel which emotions are yours and which emotions are NOT yours.
~ Then feel the strength of the earth beneath your feet and your connection to the earth. You can also feel how others are connected to the earth, and how we are all connected in that way - but it's not a real intense connection this way, eh?
~ Then feel the warmth of love and let that fire energy flow out of you into the person who wrote the energy request - and if you feel like it go back to the computer and post a response. It can be as simple as "energy sent". Everyone who reads your response will be able to feel that love - to other empaths it may even feel like a soft, warm hug.

Then get something to eat or drink to complete the grounding. Or go outside and lean against a tree or sit on the ground. Pick up a leaf and let it rest lightly in your hand. Feel the breeze against your skin and the warmth of the sunlight on your face. All of us empaths need to work on being aware of the happy and joyful and contented energies we feel, as well as the anxious and fearful and hurting energies. Remember that there really is balance in the world, it's what keeps the planet turning on it's axis every day, going around the sun every year, keeping it's place in the universe instead of careening wildly all over the place and crashing into other planets or suns. Ah, balance. http://mysticwicks.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

[Pesha]

I am sitting here just weeping at your kind response to Earthy. Such true words and such love coming through. I can sense such a good kind heart in you. Blessings and light.

BB
DS.

[Earthy]

Thankyou so much Lunacie..your words were wonderful, and it's nice to know that so many people here can understand how i feel.
You are such a wonderful, kind soul :hugz:

[Lunacie]

Kind, goodhearted, wonderful... ... ... me?


:aburst: Nah, you should see me beind the wheel of a car. I invented road rage.

[Teresa]

OMG what a beautiful and touching post Lunacie! I think growing up as an empath is one of the most difficult childhoods one can have. Yes, many pick up on the feelings of dissapointment and disapproval of the adults whom are supposed to care for us. I am still so very thankful my Grandparents got me and raised me. My grandmother understood what was happening with me and showed me much love and acceptance that my parents did not. :hugz: for all of you! Each and everyone of You are very special and posess a wonderful gift in which once mastered You can help others!

[Shadowsong]

This is some amazing stuff! I really hope some day, with work, I can... learn to sift through the emotions I feel and learn what's mine and what isn't.... then, I think, I'll be able to appreciate this as a gift. Needless to say there are certainly times when I really, really wish I weren't an empath--but then I remind myself that (or so I believe) the Divine don't dish out more than we can handle. Sure it's hard and we have to fight an uphill battle, but I guess there's some reason we all are blessed with this gift, huh? To help people once we know how to help and how to take care of ourselves too.
Big warm empath hugs to all of you!!! :hugz:

[Lunacie]

Wow, I need to find a box to store all these wonderful warm huggles in - you know, for those times when I find myself overwhelmed. It still happens occasionally. Especially at those times when my hormones go bonkers.

Hugs everybody back. I love hugs so much. :hugz:

Found one !
*starts tucking all the hugs into the beautiful box*

http://www.jmcw.com/images/wildwood.gif

[Auroro]

Hello Bethra.
I did not know you too were an empath... we've had discussions in the past, I'm not sure if you remember me or not, it was quite a while ago. I just wanted to sort of load off if you wouldn't mind...

I've been feeling it heavy these days. It rests heavy in the air around me and it becomes hard to breath sometimes. I'm working on learning Psionics at the moment to help me control the empathy. Sometimes, like right now, the emotions flowing to me from different people is thick enough to harm me physically, giving me stomach aches, headaches, the works. Though I am sure this is rather common among empaths. I've never actually conversed with another empath before and that is why I came here. The original Empath Bunker looked to large and full of people for me. Too many emotions. The empathy, I believe it developed in eigth grade through some stressing and depressing times. I've been in a pretty much secluded state since then, and now I am a junior, 11th grade. I didn't discover that this was empathy until about half a year ago. I've been to the points to "cutting" since then and before then, though I have found someone in my life, I believe to be the most important person in my life, that supports me and keeps me from doing that now adays. Thank you for your time.
_______
Auroro.

[~*Ginger*~]

Ok, let me see...
There's lots of different referrences to lots of things here.

Knowing/Feeling:

Ok, when my sister in law died of drowning in a car accident, (something I have had a fear of since childhood, and thinking of ways to get out, if this happened to become a reality.) {and since this time, this fear has subsided, some, still get the willie's when going over bridges.}
I woke up approx. the very same time she was drowning, feeling like i was, to the point of strangulation, and gasping for breath.

When my father died, I had known it was coming for a good long while, he knew that I knew, and told me what dress he wanted me to wear to his funeral. (One that I had already put in the 'cull box', but dug out, after he made his request, still have it now...)
When my aunt and cousin came to tell me, she asked me to sit down, I said, 'It's daddy, isn't it.' Once more freaking out other member's of my family.
I just knew.
So glad I didn't have to feel the pains this man felt, his list of reasons for death were very long, and stemed by 'agent orange poisioning'. (It's a wonder he even walked among us as long as he did, the man did some major suffering (amoung other things), which he tried to fight off by alcoholism).

When my brother Chuck died, he had developed seizures from being poisoned at work by the chemicals that the plant was putting out into our breathing enviroment...
He had a siezure, after getting his morning shower, and asperated on 'copenhagen' (snuff) {which I later found while cleaning his home, and had to wash off the walls, which I felt his pain at this time as well}

I had woken up again, choking to the point of strangulation, and gasping for breath.

The last time I had seen him, I saw something different in his eyes, but at that time did not realise this would become a pattern...(he's been 8 years, gone.)

We were very close, to the point that when he died, I felt as if I were trapped in a small box, and unable to breath, i felt as though, I was having a heart attack.
{broken hearted/heart broken} = anxiety attack.
Hospital stay of 2 weeks, with Dr's wanting to know, 'what was wrong with my heart'.

For approx. 3/4 years now, I've stopped going to family gatherings (be they reunions, funerals, or what have you), since the above pattern of seeing something 'different', in people, and have them say very deep, or strange things to me, or repeat every single thing I said back to me, even had one look into my eyes and literally turn & run the other way. (figured he knew I knew, since we are both Pisces. He was the next...)

From this pattern, I know they for some reason or another, are the next to go.
Some have a 'glow' about them, some have the 'smell of death' upon them.

It's uncomfortable, and also hurts for me to see this.
So I no longer go to family gatherings...

i've also had this happen with people i've past on the street...
They have this 'glow' or 'smell'.

Not sure, I like this bit of info, no, I don't like knowing this...

Energy requests:

Well, sometimes, I can't handle the feelings there.
Sometimes, my energy level is low from sending, sometimes, my system can't handle it.
Sometimes, all I'm able to say is :hugz:
But the feeling for me is real... and totally sincere.

Negativity:

Sometimes, I try to help people feel better, and it helps me feel better.
I try to be up beat, and uplifting, to cover for the things that are really bothering me...

Something else, I'm wondering...

Dreaming:

Since childhood, I've had awful dreams, which at the time, I didn't understand, but realise they are dreams of some of the things to come, I've seen, the aftermath of wars.
Walking thru them, after things have happened.

I drempt of the 'school poisionings' before they happened.

I've also had some really cool future dreams of things to come, I've seen my children, while they were still within the womb, though shown to me, at about 3 yrs. old.
Also have seen them grown.

Does anyone else here do this?

[Contra Mundum]

Wow, I need to find a box to store all these wonderful warm huggles in - you know, for those times when I find myself overwhelmed. It still happens occasionally. Especially at those times when my hormones go bonkers.

Hugs everybody back. I love hugs so much. :hugz:

Found one !
*starts tucking all the hugs into the beautiful box*

http://www.jmcw.com/images/wildwood.gif

:hearteyes oooooooohhhhh lovely box .
:smoochypo keep tucking :hugz:

[Pesha]

Ginger you darling girl, I knew you were an empath. HUGS!!!!

BB
DS.

[Pesha]

Being an empath has always made it hard for me to meet men. I start to "vibe" them the minuet I shake hands and well if I get anything negative, I back off. I wish I had listened to that instinct with my first marriage. I ended up a battered wife. But, I do not know really if I should turn off and take my chances or just do what I always do. Ah well..sighs.

BB
DS.

[~*Ginger*~]

Ginger you darling girl, I knew you were an empath. HUGS!!!!

BB
DS.
Dear Sweet Dragonsinger,
I knew you knew...
;)

:hugz:

[Akashic Brother]

I've had a rough time lately being back in school and being put back into crowds. I hope I can learn to differentiate between all the feelings. I always feel the feelings kind of build up over time, untill I feel almost like I'm gonna explode with anxiety. Today I tried to focus, when this was building, on individuals and thier feelings, as well as focusing on how I felt. There are just soo freakin many things that come to 'mind' and 'gut' that it gets just so unbearably difficult and overwhelming at times. Anyways I think it is comforting that others feel many of the same things I feel, and it helps me so very much to hear the different ways people deal with it. When I get too overwhelmed I can come here and relate with others!! I never seem to find ANYONE in this world that has felt these things. People say they do but it just doesn't ever seem to jive with the way I feel. I know from reading people's threads here that there are others that feel exactly as I do, so thank you all for your experiences, and your care and understanding. The world is lonely when others do not KNOW who you really are, and what you really feel. Anyways...blah blah blah.. thank you brothers and sisters.

[Gwenhwyfar]

Ok, let me see...
There's lots of different referrences to lots of things here.

Knowing/Feeling:

Ok, when my sister in law died of drowning in a car accident, (something I have had a fear of since childhood, and thinking of ways to get out, if this happened to become a reality.) {and since this time, this fear has subsided, some, still get the willie's when going over bridges.}
I woke up approx. the very same time she was drowning, feeling like i was, to the point of strangulation, and gasping for breath.

When my father died, I had known it was coming for a good long while, he knew that I knew, and told me what dress he wanted me to wear to his funeral. (One that I had already put in the 'cull box', but dug out, after he made his request, still have it now...)
When my aunt and cousin came to tell me, she asked me to sit down, I said, 'It's daddy, isn't it.' Once more freaking out other member's of my family.
I just knew.
So glad I didn't have to feel the pains this man felt, his list of reasons for death were very long, and stemed by 'agent orange poisioning'. (It's a wonder he even walked among us as long as he did, the man did some major suffering (amoung other things), which he tried to fight off by alcoholism).

When my brother Chuck died, he had developed seizures from being poisoned at work by the chemicals that the plant was putting out into our breathing enviroment...
He had a siezure, after getting his morning shower, and asperated on 'copenhagen' (snuff) {which I later found while cleaning his home, and had to wash off the walls, which I felt his pain at this time as well}

I had woken up again, choking to the point of strangulation, and gasping for breath.

The last time I had seen him, I saw something different in his eyes, but at that time did not realise this would become a pattern...(he's been 8 years, gone.)

We were very close, to the point that when he died, I felt as if I were trapped in a small box, and unable to breath, i felt as though, I was having a heart attack.
{broken hearted/heart broken} = anxiety attack.
Hospital stay of 2 weeks, with Dr's wanting to know, 'what was wrong with my heart'.

For approx. 3/4 years now, I've stopped going to family gatherings (be they reunions, funerals, or what have you), since the above pattern of seeing something 'different', in people, and have them say very deep, or strange things to me, or repeat every single thing I said back to me, even had one look into my eyes and literally turn & run the other way. (figured he knew I knew, since we are both Pisces. He was the next...)

From this pattern, I know they for some reason or another, are the next to go.
Some have a 'glow' about them, some have the 'smell of death' upon them.

It's uncomfortable, and also hurts for me to see this.
So I no longer go to family gatherings...

i've also had this happen with people i've past on the street...
They have this 'glow' or 'smell'.

Not sure, I like this bit of info, no, I don't like knowing this...

Energy requests:

Well, sometimes, I can't handle the feelings there.
Sometimes, my energy level is low from sending, sometimes, my system can't handle it.
Sometimes, all I'm able to say is :hugz:
But the feeling for me is real... and totally sincere.

Negativity:

Sometimes, I try to help people feel better, and it helps me feel better.
I try to be up beat, and uplifting, to cover for the things that are really bothering me...

Something else, I'm wondering...

Dreaming:

Since childhood, I've had awful dreams, which at the time, I didn't understand, but realise they are dreams of some of the things to come, I've seen, the aftermath of wars.
Walking thru them, after things have happened.

I drempt of the 'school poisionings' before they happened.

I've also had some really cool future dreams of things to come, I've seen my children, while they were still within the womb, though shown to me, at about 3 yrs. old.
Also have seen them grown.

Does anyone else here do this?

I do some of the things youve mentioned. When an animal is going to die, there is a smell to them, I call it the smell of about to die....Iv never noticed it on people thank gad. But my dad does smell it on people, he told me he could smell when my grams was about to die. I never understood what he ment by that untill my first few pets died and I started reconizing the smell.

I dream/have visions of things to come, before my daughter was born I set up a playpen in the nursery, one day I looked at it and I saw a little girl of about 7 months old standing in it. I knew that was my soon to be daughter. Iv had numerous dreams or visions in my life that are little glimpes of the future.

I saw a guy on tv once, he was just kicked off some reality show and was giving his goodbye speech thingy...I dont why but I thought to myself, hes not meant for this world anymore, I think hes going die. I didnt think of it again untill I read in the paper he had commited sucide a couple months after the show.

I dont talk about these things much because I know people think Im bonkers. *shrugs* I used to think everyone had these kinds of "gifts". Untill I talked about them and saw the looks I got, then I knew, not everyone does.

[BrigidMoon]

Hey Earthy, I didn't mean to ignore your post, I have ADD and sometimes get distracted and then I forget what I was going to do. Sorry about that. I too experience times when I just want to veg out or be a hermit. Back when I was suffering from depression and hadn't learned to shield or distinguish others energies from my own, I would spend 6 days a week in the house, not going out until I had to go get groceries, and lived that way for years. I still have periods of a day or two, or as long as a week or two, when I don't check my email or answer the phone or the door, and only go out to get groceries or go through the fast food drive through.

The affirmations are a wonderful tool. They sure turned my life around. As a child I was not encouraged to feel good about myself and as an empath I picked up everyone else's unhappy energies - so as an adult it was very hard to believe anything good about myself. My first shield was too "all or nothing" and nothing much got through, but it gave me time to get used to my own feelings so that when I modified the filters on that shield it was easier for me to tell the difference between my feelings and the empathic feelings I was picking up from others.

Reading energy requests here can be overwhelming. I just thought about this, there is more than just the energy of the original poster, there is everyone else who has read that post (whether they only read or whether they also posted) and what they feel about what they're reading. And sometimes it reminds them of something in their past that they felt strongly about, eh? Those energy requests can pack quite a whallop.

When you're ready - start small - go into one energy request - if you immediately get hammered by the feelings try this...
~ minimize the window or close it
~ push yourself back away from the computer
~ close your eyes and picture white light energy coming from above your head,
flowing over you like water and washing away the feelings that are stuck to you.
~ Then feel that white light energy flowing into you like air as you breath and soothing the feelings that were already within you. This should help you to feel which emotions are yours and which emotions are NOT yours.
~ Then feel the strength of the earth beneath your feet and your connection to the earth. You can also feel how others are connected to the earth, and how we are all connected in that way - but it's not a real intense connection this way, eh?
~ Then feel the warmth of love and let that fire energy flow out of you into the person who wrote the energy request - and if you feel like it go back to the computer and post a response. It can be as simple as "energy sent". Everyone who reads your response will be able to feel that love - to other empaths it may even feel like a soft, warm hug.

Then get something to eat or drink to complete the grounding. Or go outside and lean against a tree or sit on the ground. Pick up a leaf and let it rest lightly in your hand. Feel the breeze against your skin and the warmth of the sunlight on your face. All of us empaths need to work on being aware of the happy and joyful and contented energies we feel, as well as the anxious and fearful and hurting energies. Remember that there really is balance in the world, it's what keeps the planet turning on it's axis every day, going around the sun every year, keeping it's place in the universe instead of careening wildly all over the place and crashing into other planets or suns. Ah, balance. http://mysticwicks.com/images/smilies/smile.gif


This post SO ROCKS!

I do the same thing. Have to get up, stretch - get a nice breath of fresh air - a glass of water... There have been meetings where I feel that way and go to the bathroom. Just to get a grip or grounding on myself and matters at hand.

_pounce_

Awesome post hon!

_inlove_

[Teresa]

Ok, let me see...


Energy requests:

Well, sometimes, I can't handle the feelings there.
Sometimes, my energy level is low from sending, sometimes, my system can't handle it.
Sometimes, all I'm able to say is :hugz:
But the feeling for me is real... and totally sincere.

Negativity:

Sometimes, I try to help people feel better, and it helps me feel better.
I try to be up beat, and uplifting, to cover for the things that are really bothering me...

I've also had some really cool future dreams of things to come, I've seen my children, while they were still within the womb, though shown to me, at about 3 yrs. old.
Also have seen them grown.

Does anyone else here do this?
I understand the energy requests as sometimes I too feel the raw pain from the posters.
I do not think many of you are aware of what has happened with My Nosk. I am such a strong empath I began to feel all of his pains and share symptoms of his disease.He is still stuck in Canada and can not fly down here now since his lungs collasped. He realized what was happening with me and broke things off. I can not say that I don't still get the feelings of the pains he is suffering, I do.Last night my lungs felt like they were on fire and I knew he was gasping for air.I am saddened and heart broken that he has closed of contact with me on the one hand,on the other hand it is a little relief on me not knowing for sure when he is having a "bad day". My feelings for him will not change. I know he is dying and did a very noble thing on my behalf. I go back and forth between being thankful and pissed that he made this decision. I also have my good days and bad ones in my mundane life. Sometimes I just need a good cry out in the woods by myself. Just sharing how I am coping with the feelings of helplessness in the coming of his death. :huddle:
Ginger, I would say yes you are very much an empath. I always had dreams of my loved ones passing over before it happened.

[BrigidMoon]

Ok, let me see...
There's lots of different referrences to lots of things here.

Knowing/Feeling:

Ok, when my sister in law died of drowning in a car accident, (something I have had a fear of since childhood, and thinking of ways to get out, if this happened to become a reality.) {and since this time, this fear has subsided, some, still get the willie's when going over bridges.}
I woke up approx. the very same time she was drowning, feeling like i was, to the point of strangulation, and gasping for breath.

When my father died, I had known it was coming for a good long while, he knew that I knew, and told me what dress he wanted me to wear to his funeral. (One that I had already put in the 'cull box', but dug out, after he made his request, still have it now...)
When my aunt and cousin came to tell me, she asked me to sit down, I said, 'It's daddy, isn't it.' Once more freaking out other member's of my family.
I just knew.
So glad I didn't have to feel the pains this man felt, his list of reasons for death were very long, and stemed by 'agent orange poisioning'. (It's a wonder he even walked among us as long as he did, the man did some major suffering (amoung other things), which he tried to fight off by alcoholism).

When my brother Chuck died, he had developed seizures from being poisoned at work by the chemicals that the plant was putting out into our breathing enviroment...
He had a siezure, after getting his morning shower, and asperated on 'copenhagen' (snuff) {which I later found while cleaning his home, and had to wash off the walls, which I felt his pain at this time as well}

I had woken up again, choking to the point of strangulation, and gasping for breath.

The last time I had seen him, I saw something different in his eyes, but at that time did not realise this would become a pattern...(he's been 8 years, gone.)

We were very close, to the point that when he died, I felt as if I were trapped in a small box, and unable to breath, i felt as though, I was having a heart attack.
{broken hearted/heart broken} = anxiety attack.
Hospital stay of 2 weeks, with Dr's wanting to know, 'what was wrong with my heart'.

For approx. 3/4 years now, I've stopped going to family gatherings (be they reunions, funerals, or what have you), since the above pattern of seeing something 'different', in people, and have them say very deep, or strange things to me, or repeat every single thing I said back to me, even had one look into my eyes and literally turn & run the other way. (figured he knew I knew, since we are both Pisces. He was the next...)

From this pattern, I know they for some reason or another, are the next to go.
Some have a 'glow' about them, some have the 'smell of death' upon them.

It's uncomfortable, and also hurts for me to see this.
So I no longer go to family gatherings...

i've also had this happen with people i've past on the street...
They have this 'glow' or 'smell'.

Not sure, I like this bit of info, no, I don't like knowing this...

Energy requests:

Well, sometimes, I can't handle the feelings there.
Sometimes, my energy level is low from sending, sometimes, my system can't handle it.
Sometimes, all I'm able to say is :hugz:
But the feeling for me is real... and totally sincere.

Negativity:

Sometimes, I try to help people feel better, and it helps me feel better.
I try to be up beat, and uplifting, to cover for the things that are really bothering me...

Something else, I'm wondering...

Dreaming:

Since childhood, I've had awful dreams, which at the time, I didn't understand, but realise they are dreams of some of the things to come, I've seen, the aftermath of wars.
Walking thru them, after things have happened.

I drempt of the 'school poisionings' before they happened.

I've also had some really cool future dreams of things to come, I've seen my children, while they were still within the womb, though shown to me, at about 3 yrs. old.
Also have seen them grown.

Does anyone else here do this?

Not as strongly as you but there are times. The dreams are prominate. I don't know what's happening and then I can refer to the dream after it's happened. :hearthear

[Lunacie]

I understand the energy requests as sometimes I too feel the raw pain from the posters.
I do not think many of you are aware of what has happened with My Nosk. I am such a strong empath I began to feel all of his pains and share symptoms of his disease.He is still stuck in Canada and can not fly down here now since his lungs collasped. He realized what was happening with me and broke things off. I can not say that I don't still get the feelings of the pains he is suffering, I do.Last night my lungs felt like they were on fire and I knew he was gasping for air.I am saddened and heart broken that he has closed of contact with me on the one hand,on the other hand it is a little relief on me not knowing for sure when he is having a "bad day". My feelings for him will not change. I know he is dying and did a very noble thing on my behalf. I go back and forth between being thankful and pissed that he made this decision. I also have my good days and bad ones in my mundane life. Sometimes I just need a good cry out in the woods by myself. Just sharing how I am coping with the feelings of helplessness in the coming of his death. :huddle:
Ginger, I would say yes you are very much an empath. I always had dreams of my loved ones passing over before it happened.

I'm so sorry. :sadeyes:

[BrigidMoon]

I understand the energy requests as sometimes I too feel the raw pain from the posters.
I do not think many of you are aware of what has happened with My Nosk. I am such a strong empath I began to feel all of his pains and share symptoms of his disease.He is still stuck in Canada and can not fly down here now since his lungs collasped. He realized what was happening with me and broke things off. I can not say that I don't still get the feelings of the pains he is suffering, I do.Last night my lungs felt like they were on fire and I knew he was gasping for air.I am saddened and heart broken that he has closed of contact with me on the one hand,on the other hand it is a little relief on me not knowing for sure when he is having a "bad day". My feelings for him will not change. I know he is dying and did a very noble thing on my behalf. I go back and forth between being thankful and pissed that he made this decision. I also have my good days and bad ones in my mundane life. Sometimes I just need a good cry out in the woods by myself. Just sharing how I am coping with the feelings of helplessness in the coming of his death. :huddle:
Ginger, I would say yes you are very much an empath. I always had dreams of my loved ones passing over before it happened.

He should know better... You're soul mates. Staying apart will not help you. And it will not help him either. Suffering alone is a sad state. I wish you both could go through this together. Although you'd be suffering with him and sad, you wouldn't be alone.

You're so strong. I'm too hard headed to let that happen. I am not very strong, I guess!

_pounce_

You both are strong for supporting those choices.

[Pesha]

I understand the energy requests as sometimes I too feel the raw pain from the posters.
I do not think many of you are aware of what has happened with My Nosk. I am such a strong empath I began to feel all of his pains and share symptoms of his disease.He is still stuck in Canada and can not fly down here now since his lungs collasped. He realized what was happening with me and broke things off. I can not say that I don't still get the feelings of the pains he is suffering, I do.Last night my lungs felt like they were on fire and I knew he was gasping for air.I am saddened and heart broken that he has closed of contact with me on the one hand,on the other hand it is a little relief on me not knowing for sure when he is having a "bad day". My feelings for him will not change. I know he is dying and did a very noble thing on my behalf. I go back and forth between being thankful and pissed that he made this decision. I also have my good days and bad ones in my mundane life. Sometimes I just need a good cry out in the woods by myself. Just sharing how I am coping with the feelings of helplessness in the coming of his death. :huddle:
Ginger, I would say yes you are very much an empath. I always had dreams of my loved ones passing over before it happened.


Oh sweety I am so sorry. I am sending a big HUG to you and hope that the sun will always shine for you in the future. It is so very hard when we know of a coming death or disolution of a relationship. Hard because most of the time we can tell no one and so have to suffer the painful knowing alone. Another BIG HUG.

BB
DS.

[Pesha]

I've had a rough time lately being back in school and being put back into crowds. I hope I can learn to differentiate between all the feelings. I always feel the feelings kind of build up over time, untill I feel almost like I'm gonna explode with anxiety. Today I tried to focus, when this was building, on individuals and thier feelings, as well as focusing on how I felt. There are just soo freakin many things that come to 'mind' and 'gut' that it gets just so unbearably difficult and overwhelming at times. Anyways I think it is comforting that others feel many of the same things I feel, and it helps me so very much to hear the different ways people deal with it. When I get too overwhelmed I can come here and relate with others!! I never seem to find ANYONE in this world that has felt these things. People say they do but it just doesn't ever seem to jive with the way I feel. I know from reading people's threads here that there are others that feel exactly as I do, so thank you all for your experiences, and your care and understanding. The world is lonely when others do not KNOW who you really are, and what you really feel. Anyways...blah blah blah.. thank you brothers and sisters.

I am glad you are with us my brother in spirit. It does make alot of things so much easier when you can be with your peers. Many moons ago when the dinos crossed the plains and I was in school, I hated it alot becasue of the onslaught of feelings and pain. I also hated feeling others happiness, becasue I was lonely and unhappy alot back then. HUGS.

BB
DS.

[Contra Mundum]

i had a :blech: experiance today ,
yesterday my friend signed in on msn and i looked at her name and felt really weird,
like i needed to go talk to her for some reason ,but i didn't.(i never listen to myself) :aburst:
today went to work and when i walked into the room i felt really strange and i knew something was up ,i hesitated to walk further
and i gues that i had a strange look on my face because everybody was looking at me.
then a friend said to me ,cindy i have some bad news ,i thought shit.
my friends father had died,i got all these images in my head and people screaming, panick ,and felt the need to cry ,but the tears weren't mine.
i've been feeling weird all day and i don't like it.

[Teresa]

i had a :blech: experiance today ,
yesterday my friend signed in on msn and i looked at her name and felt really weird,
like i needed to go talk to her for some reason ,but i didn't.(i never listen to myself) :aburst:
today went to work and when i walked into the room i felt really strange and i knew something was up ,i hesitated to walk further
and i gues that i had a strange look on my face because everybody was looking at me.
then a friend said to me ,cindy i have some bad news ,i thought shit.
my friends father had died,i got all these images in my head and people screaming, panick ,and felt the need to cry ,but the tears weren't mine.
i've been feeling weird all day and i don't like it.
:huddle: I am sorry. I have had that happen to me as well before. Do not beat yourself up over it though we are all human. :huddle:

[Pesha]

i had a :blech: experiance today ,
yesterday my friend signed in on msn and i looked at her name and felt really weird,
like i needed to go talk to her for some reason ,but i didn't.(i never listen to myself) :aburst:
today went to work and when i walked into the room i felt really strange and i knew something was up ,i hesitated to walk further
and i gues that i had a strange look on my face because everybody was looking at me.
then a friend said to me ,cindy i have some bad news ,i thought shit.
my friends father had died,i got all these images in my head and people screaming, panick ,and felt the need to cry ,but the tears weren't mine.
i've been feeling weird all day and i don't like it.

Sweety, it happens. We miss something. It has happened to me. My second husband died and on the day before he passed, I had been in to see him in hospital. I remember kissing him on the cheek and it felt like cold marble to me. I thought nothing of it. I kept getting this feeling I needed to go back to the hospital all the rest of the day. I did not listen to my instinct. My dear husband of only 10 years died early the next morning. So you see darling, it happens to all of us at sometime or another. HUGS. Love and Light.

BB
DS.

[Contra Mundum]

:huddle: I am sorry. I have had that happen to me as well before. Do not beat yourself up over it though we are all human. :huddle:
thanks :) ,i just hope that i've learned my lesson.
i really need to learn to listen to myself :awilly:

[Contra Mundum]

Sweety, it happens. We miss something. It has happened to me. My second husband died and on the day before he passed, I had been in to see him in hospital. I remember kissing him on the cheek and it felt like cold marble to me. I thought nothing of it. I kept getting this feeling I needed to go back to the hospital all the rest of the day. I did not listen to my instinct. My dear husband of only 10 years died early the next morning. So you see darling, it happens to all of us at sometime or another. HUGS. Love and Light.

BB
DS.
oh that's so sad ,how did you cope with that ??
you see how important it is to listen to your instinct.
i'm so bad at it ,i had the same thing happen to me when i brought my dog to the vet (just for a photo) ,didn't listen to my instinct and just left him there without saying goodbye when i knew i had to :grrrrr: never saw him again. :nuhuh:
i still feel guilty about that. :dis:

[SammieAnn]

I would just like to say that I'm starting to feel better then I have for a long time. the class lessons for the empathy class are starting to help me put perspective on my gift. thanks everyone for sending energy and helping me

[~*Ginger*~]

lessons?
there's lessons in here?

Gone to the class rooms to see what she can find...
not joining, just some extra study.

cool idea!

[Contra Mundum]

i'm not really struggling but i just have to write this down, :ack:
tonight is the memorial service for my friends father and i have to go.
it's in the same church as where my grandfathers memorial service was being held when he died last year.
and i'm a little bit scared ,not only for what i will be feeling from all the people who will be attending but my own feelings as well.
i need to shut myself off completely and i'm nervous that maybe i won't be able too.
yesterday when my friend signed in on msn my whole body turned ice cold ,it was so intense ,so if i'm feeling that on the internet ,
it scares me what i will be feeling tonight in church.
:ack:

[Brenda]

i'm not really struggling but i just have to write this down, :ack:
tonight is the memorial service for my friends father and i have to go.
it's in the same church as where my grandfathers memorial service was being held when he died last year.
and i'm a little bit scared ,not only for what i will be feeling from all the people who will be attending but my own feelings as well.
i need to shut myself off completely and i'm nervous that maybe i won't be able too.
yesterday when my friend signed in on msn my whole body turned ice cold ,it was so intense ,so if i'm feeling that on the internet ,
it scares me what i will be feeling tonight in church.
:ack:
I know exactly how you must feel.
Because I'm so scared for their feelings, I avoid graveyards, churches, crowded places as much as possible. :ggrief:
I even missed the funeral of my mother's uncle because I was too frightened, we didn't have a good relationship with him, but I guess it would have been polite to go

[Branwyn]

Tonight I've got to go to the county fair, alone. Usually, I can only handle crowds when I'm with my husband (he kind of puts an extra layer of sheilding on). it makes it a lot easier to deal with the mass of emotions.

But he has to work tonight (and won'd call in sick), and I've got to go to the fair because I'm putting in a cheesecake for a compitition (second bad thing, I hate waiting around to be judged).

The good thing so far is that it's been raining all day, so hopefully it won't be too crowded at the fair.

Any calming vibes will be greatly appreciated (along with my own shields, of course. Not asking you guys to do all my work for me).

[Lunacie]

i'm not really struggling but i just have to write this down, :ack:
tonight is the memorial service for my friends father and i have to go.
it's in the same church as where my grandfathers memorial service was being held when he died last year.
and i'm a little bit scared ,not only for what i will be feeling from all the people who will be attending but my own feelings as well.
i need to shut myself off completely and i'm nervous that maybe i won't be able too.
yesterday when my friend signed in on msn my whole body turned ice cold ,it was so intense ,so if i'm feeling that on the internet ,
it scares me what i will be feeling tonight in church.
:ack:
I know how you feel. It's very hard for me to visit anyone in the hospital where my mother died.

I'm sending some Universal loving energy to help you be strong and calm and get through the evening and the next few days as well. It's natural for your friend to feel very sad, and maybe even angry, at this loss. And it's normal for you to feel those things again as you are reminded of your own loss.

When you start feeling those things (just as soon as you feel them instead of waiting until they become overwhelming to you) say to yourself "I'm feeling sadness" and acknowledge the feeling, and then let some of it slip away through your root chakra (your tailbone or your feet) into Mother Earth, and feel Mama Earth giving you back loving energy.

..... sending now .....

[frigga]

Vent here? Good. Ok, here I go! :meanface: :scream: I was at the store earlier today and for some reason or another it was packed. I was walking around and I suddenly found my head screaming, "hello! Doesn't anyone see me?!". I realized that I'm always moving out of the way for others, saying sorry first (even if it's not my fault), and general surveying the situation for possible obsticles. I guess this was the first time I thought maybe I was sort of in the minority when it came to this type of thinking because I just seemed to get run over when I'm out! Ugh, I hate it! Why can't someone else watch out for me once...Ok, thanks. Done being selfish now... :smile:
Oh, and I hope you do well at the fair Branwyn! Energy and luck to ya! :)

[Pesha]

You are not being selfesh frigga. My goodness. You had quite an experience there. And never apologise because you need to vent or just talk. That is why this place is here hun. :hugz:

BB
DS.

[~*Ginger*~]

I realized that I'm always moving out of the way for others, saying sorry first (even if it's not my fault), and general surveying the situation for possible obsticles.
I do this as well.
Always feel like I'm in the way.
Always saying I'm sorry, even to furniture, i've found myself applogizing.
Always call myself looking out for the obstacles, but the biggest of them, do have away of being disquised as humans. :yikess:

[Pesha]

I do this as well.
Always feel like I'm in the way.
Always saying I'm sorry, even to furniture, i've found myself applogizing.
Always call myself looking out for the obstacles, but the biggest of them, do have away of being disquised as humans. :yikess:


I have been apologising to everyone and thing all my life. I am not alone.

BB
DS.

[~*Ginger*~]

Well, that's good to know, now i don't feel like such a weirdo. _inabox_

though, I wonder why this is so....

[SammieAnn]

I am the same way I find myself apologizing all the time even when I know I am not to blame

[Contra Mundum]

I know how you feel. It's very hard for me to visit anyone in the hospital where my mother died.

I'm sending some Universal loving energy to help you be strong and calm and get through the evening and the next few days as well. It's natural for your friend to feel very sad, and maybe even angry, at this loss. And it's normal for you to feel those things again as you are reminded of your own loss.

When you start feeling those things (just as soon as you feel them instead of waiting until they become overwhelming to you) say to yourself "I'm feeling sadness" and acknowledge the feeling, and then let some of it slip away through your root chakra (your tailbone or your feet) into Mother Earth, and feel Mama Earth giving you back loving energy.

..... sending now .....
:hearthear thank you so much.

what a night, i almost lost it a few times,but managed to keep most of it blocked out.
it was like i was in a trance,in the middle of the service i got flashbacks from my grandfathers funeral ,that was not nice. :woah:

the hardest part was when we had to pay our condolances ,the amount of emotions was overwelming ,i nearly broke down in tears but managed to stay strong.
and then all of a sudden i was leaning on something and i thought what the hell ?
something made me look at what i was leaning on ,and to my horror it was the coffin ,OPEN COFFIN !!!!!!!!! i have never in my life seen a dead body i looked straight at his face, and i am a person who cannot handle those kind of things ,and even though i wasn't scared, i know it has made a deep impact on me.
and i still can't believe that i saw it .
i really hate memorial services and i wish i never have to attend one again,FAT CHANCE offcourse.
i'm still in a bit of a daze really.

thanks for your wonderful advice lunacie it's appreciated :hugz:

[Contra Mundum]

I know exactly how you must feel.
Because I'm so scared for their feelings, I avoid graveyards, churches, crowded places as much as possible. :ggrief:
I even missed the funeral of my mother's uncle because I was too frightened, we didn't have a good relationship with him, but I guess it would have been polite to go
hey brenda good to see you here,you know this is a great thread for you to talk about the things that are bothering you.
give it a try.

you know it's scary to feel all those feelings but if you keep avoiding things like that ,you will never learn how to deal with those things.
know what i mean? and somethings you just can't avoid ,and i could never miss a funeral because i know i will feel guilty afterwards and if there's one thing i hate it's guilt.
it isn't easy being an empath ey ??

[Lunacie]

As far as feeling I need to get out of the way, or give way, I do that a lot. I recently realized I was feeling resentful, especially when driving, at all the other people who assume they have the right of way and barge ahead of me - even when I clearly have the right of way. I'm still be cautious but I'm not automatically backing off these days. At least not when I'm behind the wheel. I'm going to work at the Renaissance Festival this weekend and I'll see how well I do when it's my body that could get bumped into or run over. ;)

The first funeral I attended was my step-grandpa's. I wasn't scared to look at the body in the coffin, but it sure didn't look anything like the guy I knew and loved. That's been true of every funeral I've been to since then. The only one that bothered me much was when my friend's baby died at 3 months and before the funeral my friend was holding the baby and kissing it. *shudder* ICK.

[~*Ginger*~]

The last funeral i went to was my brother's.
I leaned over and kissed him on the cheek as he lay there.
He was cold, and hard, yet still my Chuck.
always will be...

The Funeral home guy was standing there, and he told me not to after I had, and when he did, I just looked at him.
he started to say something about it making him turn dark, or something along that line, I said, 'I haven't hurt him'.

i'd only intended the one kiss goodbye, and would have knocked the crap out of anyone who would have tried to stop me.

I see nothing wrong with that...

[SilverMaiden]

Funerals are complex. People go for many reasons, to show respect for the one who died, to show the surviving people that one who died wasn't alone in life and to help the ones who survived know that they aren't alone in their sorrow.

Funerals for empaths can be very hard. Mainly because funerals can bring to the surface fears of death, saddness/guilt for still living, guilt of not having lived the right way, guilt about decisions, confusion about life paths, saddness/sorrow in saying good-bye, fear in not knowing how things are going change, crisis' of faith, anger, bewilderment in a lot of the people attending. These emotions can amplify issues an empath is working through or hasn't addressed yet. Making it hard to filter "other's feelings" from an empath's own.

For empaths learning to figure out what emotions are truly yours and what belongs to another is very very important. Especially in high emotional situations.

Empaths can be very helpful and healing in aiding others working through their grief and dealing with things that death can bring to the surface because they can be the best listeners and provide a whole lot of comfort and strength to those in vulernable emotional situations.

The empath first has be able to filter what's theirs and what's another. The empath has to know what situations they are ready to handle and which ones they aren't. Empathy and handling it requires a lot of self-honesty.

[Pesha]

I was for reasons I would rather not discuss, not allowed to cry at my husbands funeral. Something to do withv dignity. And the fact as it was put to me that Jews get too hysterical. Anyway.........When I got home I was stuffed from my own emotions and everyone elses. Took me hours to unload and deal with just me.

BB
DS.

[Brenda]

Another thing I'm struggling with, my best friend at school is angry at me every 5 minutes, just because I keep reading her mind :awwman:
Some things she thinks are so weird, or even if I start talking about a subject she was thinking about she pretty much runs away, yelling I have to stay out of her head. :yikes: like if I'm doing it for pleasure :foh:

[Lunacie]

That sounds more like telepathy, and I think it might bug me a little to have someone who knows what I'm thinking as soon as I do. I know you can't stay out of her head - at least not yet - but let her decide what she wants to tell you and what she doesn't feel like talking about, eh?

[Contra Mundum]

Another thing I'm struggling with, my best friend at school is angry at me every 5 minutes, just because I keep reading her mind :awwman:
Some things she thinks are so weird, or even if I start talking about a subject she was thinking about she pretty much runs away, yelling I have to stay out of her head. :yikes: like if I'm doing it for pleasure :foh:
yeah that does sound more like telepathy ,just think about how you would feel if someone did that to you,i can understand why she'd feel angry.
learn how to control it ,would be easier for the both of you.
you can't make her talk about things she's not ready for yet.
:)

[Contra Mundum]

I was for reasons I would rather not discuss, not allowed to cry at my husbands funeral. Something to do with dignity. And the fact as it was put to me that Jews get too hysterical. Anyway.........When I got home I was stuffed from my own emotions and everyone elses. Took me hours to unload and deal with just me.

BB
DS.
oh that's a horrible thing to say ,esspecially on your husbands funeral.
how wrong were they to say that.
i can understand why they said it ,but it's wrong.

[Contra Mundum]

As far as feeling I need to get out of the way, or give way, I do that a lot. I recently realized I was feeling resentful, especially when driving, at all the other people who assume they have the right of way and barge ahead of me - even when I clearly have the right of way. I'm still be cautious but I'm not automatically backing off these days. At least not when I'm behind the wheel. I'm going to work at the Renaissance Festival this weekend and I'll see how well I do when it's my body that could get bumped into or run over. ;)

The first funeral I attended was my step-grandpa's. I wasn't scared to look at the body in the coffin, but it sure didn't look anything like the guy I knew and loved. That's been true of every funeral I've been to since then. The only one that bothered me much was when my friend's baby died at 3 months and before the funeral my friend was holding the baby and kissing it. *shudder* ICK.

you can just notice when the soul has left the body ,because you're looking at an empty body,no wonder it looks differently.
i could notice that when i looked at simon.
and when i see dead body's on tv.
the story of your friend and the baby gave me the creeps when i read that,i could never have looked at that.*shudders with you*

have fun at the Renaissance Festival :flowers:

[Lunacie]

I agree about knowing when the soul has left the body. My mother's soul quietly slipped further and further away. On Wednesday I knew it was gone, but her body continued to breath and her heart continued to beat until Sunday. Which gave the rest of the family time to come and visit and say their goodbye's to her.

[Brenda]

That sounds more like telepathy, and I think it might bug me a little to have someone who knows what I'm thinking as soon as I do. I know you can't stay out of her head - at least not yet - but let her decide what she wants to tell you and what she doesn't feel like talking about, eh?
I know what I should mention to her and what I shouldn't, but if she's thinking that's she's feeling cold and I suggest to get our jackets, she gets angry, if she's thinking about Halloween and I ask her if she has any plans on that day just to say something, she gets angry.
It's not that I'm telling her what color underwear she's wearing :eyebrow:

[Contra Mundum]

I agree about knowing when the soul has left the body. My mother's soul quietly slipped further and further away. On Wednesday I knew it was gone, but her body continued to breath and her heart continued to beat until Sunday. Which gave the rest of the family time to come and visit and say their goodbye's to her.
oh really,i never knew that the body could function without the soul present.
this will give me something to think about :hmmmmm:
i feel alot of questions coming up,
WHY,HOW ,REASONS ,HUH ?????????????

[Lunacie]

It wasn't quite the same when my gramma-in-law was dying 9 years ago. Her daughter (mom-in-law) and I were taking care of her at home with some help from Hospice. She seemed to be slipping away from us more each day, then one day she came back to us. She asked me to sing a few hymns for her, and the whole family got in a good visit, then she began slipping away again. I wasn't surprised at all a few nights later when I went to check on her around 3 am and found she had stopped breathing.

It wasn't as clear with Gramma when her spirit was gone as it was with my Mom. Maybe I wasn't as connected with Gramma as with Mom. Maybe Gramma wasn't quite ready to move on. Mom was definately ready to cross over. It was hard being there with both of them at the end, and yet it felt right to end things together. I still have times when it's hard to believe my ex is really dead, it wasn't unexpected because he had already had one heart attack, but it was quite sudden. I wasn't there with him and I didn't get that chance to say goodbye - his mistress had the body cremated without allowing a viewing for family or anyone. Bitch.

[Contra Mundum]

what the fook :ahhhh:
how could she do such a thing, who gave her the right ?
i would have killed her.
that is just not right,it's hard when you don't get the chance to say goodbye,doesn't give any proper closure.(imo)
no wonder you sometimes have a hard time believing he's dead.
some people :rolleyes:

[Pesha]

What a cruel thing to do to you Lunacie. :hugz: Why do people act like that when someone dies and has a family they left behind. I had to have someone tell my husbands ex becasue I actually could not stand her nor she me.

I knew when Lee had passed over. At the exact time he died, I sat up in bed and felt very cold and lonely.

BB
DS.