Werewolves

[Auroro]

I was originally going to place this in my "Vampires..." poll and thread, but vampires and werewolves are very different. What I am asking this time is, Do you believe in the existance of werewolves, lycans, and etcetera?

This poll, as well as my other will run until the next full moon. :kooky:

EDIT: ACK, I forgot to put the Poll part of it in the Poll.... lol. So just post your answers anyway, if you could please.

[Darklord_Kodiak]

I have never seen one so I am going to say no. However I suppose anything is possible.

[Auroro]

Very respectable answer Kodiak (I have a problem calling you just Darklord. lol).

[Flaire-FireStar]

To an extent, yes.
Changing into a hairy beast by the light of the full moon - no.

[Rich]

sure why not?

[Auroro]

love the answer, Rich.

[Jolixte]

Not in as they are portrayed in folklore, and since I belong to a site where people claim to be werewolves, even less. I think anything resembling 'werewolfism' is a medical condition.

[Auroro]

lmao, medical condition, that's great.

[Jolixte]

lmao, medical condition, that's great.
*shrug* I am empirical on many of these types of issues, and I don't believe that there are people running around that change into wolves by the light of the full moon.

[Auroro]

No, but I am sure there is a sort of mental condition where people got sort of crazy on full moons. For instance, Full Moon nights have the highest crime rates out of any other night(s).

[Jolixte]

No, but I am sure there is a sort of mental condition where people got sort of crazy on full moons. For instance, Full Moon nights have the highest crime rates out of any other night(s).
That's probably because there is enough light to see then. Correlation does not mean causation.

[Auroro]

Even on cloudy nights, right? hehe.

[Jolixte]

Even on cloudy nights, right? hehe.
In general. I'm just going with what you are saying here. You really haven't provided evidence for what you stated. Logically, medically, rationally, whatever it makes no sense that people would go crazy only when there was a full moon.

[Trithemius]

With the sightings in Wisconsin, going back to 1936, of a large, upright hairy creature that has been described as having dog- or wolflike facial features, yes, I think werewolves could potentially exist.

[Auroro]

And I'm sure you wouldn't say that the moon doesn't affect other natural things, such as tides? Psi is very strong, and one must remember that. In fact, on the last full moon, there were 7 shootings and 2 stabbings in the city of Syracuse in upstate New York, that's about 75% increase from the previous nights. All of these incidents were in different areas and were completely unrelated.

[Jolixte]

And I'm sure you wouldn't say that the moon doesn't affect other natural things, such as tides? Psi is very strong, and one must remember that. In fact, on the last full moon, there were 7 shootings and 2 stabbings in the city of Syracuse in upstate New York, that's about 75% increase from the previous nights. All of these incidents were in different areas and were completely unrelated.
Yes, it affects tides sure, but there is a big difference between the moving of the tides and the mental state of a person. What do you mean by psi? I'm going to assume you don't mean the greek letter as that pertains primarily to psychology.

[Auroro]

The greek letter psi is the representation of Psi. Psi is mental energy, psychic energy, or whatever you may call it. You have, undoubtedly, heard of Psionics, no?

[Jolixte]

I've only ever used the letter for psychology hence the reason that I have a pendant with it on it. Anyways, the only time I've heard of psionics was in reference to something D&D related.

[Auroro]

Yes, though much in D&D, and many of today's "fantasies" have been derived from many Occult truths. Go surf around www.psipog.com (www.psipog.com) or www.psionline.org (www.psionline.org) .

[Jolixte]

How does that relate to what you are saying about werewolves anyways?

[Auroro]

You started it. lol.

[Jolixte]

Psi is very strong, and one must remember that.
Hmm.

[Auroro]

Shite.

[Gypsy flower]

no on wearwolfs

[Auroro]

no on wearwolfs

not even on a completely psychic level, rather than a physical level? :foh:

[Fyre_Nymph]

I beleive in them,. i think they exist, but not in the sense mythology calls them. I think that a real werewolf is a person who is intouch and embraces their animal instinct.

I see the Wolf-man hasn't killed you yet
Don't worry, he's getting to it.- VAn Helsing

[Silver Water]

I honestly do not know whether I fully believe in or fully disbelieve in werewolves. I do think that once, long ago, true werewolves (men that turned into to wolves or perhaps half-men half-wolves) existed, but I am not so sure that they do any longer. Perhaps they might on a completely psychic level now, as was suggested.

[Valnorran]

There are cases of mentally disturbed people suffering from a psychotic delusion that they turned into animals. I've seen nothing more than rumors to support the idea of people literally, physically changing into other animals. I accept the possibility, but until someone presents som solid proof I won't go any further than that.

[LadyCelt]

I think they may be shapeshifters and shift into a wolf and that is what happens.

[Auroro]

Actually, on this other site that I just found today, there are those who claim they are lycanthropes...

[Morgandria]

Lycanthropes, or therianthropes?

[Auroro]

The term "lycanthrope" is what they use.

[Morgandria]

Ah. Well, if they believe they have a clinical illness, that gives them the delusion they are becoming a wolf, more power to them.

Personally I wouldn't self-identify with a mental disorder.

[BrigidMoon]

To an extent, yes.
Changing into a hairy beast by the light of the full moon - no.
I agree with Flaire!

[Old Witch]

There's a medical condition where people are very hairy..I mean all over the face and body...I just can't remember the name of it.....They look very animalish.....As for being a real werewolf.. when Dax was young, he and I were having a power struggle...Let me see how to explain this...I channeled the wolf spirit, made eye contact, snarled and growled, made my self seem bigger...I'm only 4' 11" and he's a big Rott... Well it worked, I was alpha from then on..I tell you, I felt like a wolf then...I always kid that I "wolfed out"...So as far as that goes, I guess you could stretch it to being a werewolf. ( I wouldn't, I just called on the spirit of the wolf).

BTW, the name of that disease is Congental hypertrichosis universalis....

[yarrow_elfglow]

[QUOTE=Auroro]I was originally going to place this in my "Vampires..." poll and thread, but vampires and werewolves are very different. What I am asking this time is, Do you believe in the existance of werewolves, lycans, and etcetera?

yes, yes i do.

[Auroro]

Ah. Well, if they believe they have a clinical illness, that gives them the delusion they are becoming a wolf, more power to them.

Personally I wouldn't self-identify with a mental disorder.

Perhaps that is not the deffinition that they speak of with their intent to describe themselves as being "lycanthropes", as there are many different words for "shaman" in different languages, and even in the same, though some do have different deffinitions to what a "shaman" really is, perhaps this is what I am trying to say by they mean something else when they speak of themselves as "lycanthropes"? :smile:

[Morgandria]

And what I'm saying is they're using the wrong word. They should choose their terminology more carefully, lest people assume they mean the proper definition of the word.

If I were someone looking for a group of animal-people, people who practice shapeshifting, or people who have a strong connection to a certain animal, I wouldn't start by looking up "lycanthropy".

My experience with people who use improper terminology is that they are either trying to evoke some sort of medieval sense of physical shapeshifting monsters who are eeeeevil (i.e delusional roleplaying uber-angsty BS), that they are unaware that there is an entire community of others (therianthropes) out there and thus use the wrong term, or that they are really out to lunch in some other way.

*shrugs* YMMV.

[enchancea]

I honestly do not know whether I fully believe in or fully disbelieve in werewolves. I do think that once, long ago, true werewolves (men that turned into to wolves or perhaps half-men half-wolves) existed, but I am not so sure that they do any longer. Perhaps they might on a completely psychic level now, as was suggested.
Thats pretty much what I think also

[Auroro]

And what I'm saying is they're using the wrong word. They should choose their terminology more carefully, lest people assume they mean the proper definition of the word.

If I were someone looking for a group of animal-people, people who practice shapeshifting, or people who have a strong connection to a certain animal, I wouldn't start by looking up "lycanthropy".

My experience with people who use improper terminology is that they are either trying to evoke some sort of medieval sense of physical shapeshifting monsters who are eeeeevil (i.e delusional roleplaying uber-angsty BS), that they are unaware that there is an entire community of others (therianthropes) out there and thus use the wrong term, or that they are really out to lunch in some other way.

*shrugs* YMMV.

haha, love the "(i.e delusional roleplaying uber-angsty BS)".