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Vivi
October 7th, 2005, 05:45 PM
Er… Well, for those of you have read my post, from months ago, “A dream (changed to “vision”) of incubi…?” uh, well… It happened again.
I wrote it all down, and it was the same as last time except I did not see spirits/demons/entities/etc. – though I did remember what one of the more prominent of the entities looked like. I had a flash of a picture of it in my mind, I think there was some sort of aura around it and it was of a different color, I think…
But I suppose I was just remembering the picture of what I remember it as. Why it flashed in my mind in different colors than last time, along w/ some sort of energy/aura around it is beyond me.

If you want to see the previous post, here is a link:

http://www.mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?p=1870727#post1870727 (http://www.mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?p=1870727#post1870727)

10/6/05

Last night, it “tried” to happen again… I couldn’t sleep last night…it must have happened about maybe one am to three am in the morning…?

It was short, which I found surprising.

I was lying in bed and I started shaking all over – I think… My memory is so, so muddled up. I do remember having trouble breathing. I think my breathing kept fading, and each time I took in air – it wasn’t enough or something…
I felt somewhat paralyzed…or I felt a bit frightened and I had an instinct that I should stay still… So I didn’t try to move very much, if at all… But I remember a feeling of being “paralyzed” when I DID try to move…

But…what truly surprised me…
I concentrated, and it all abruptly stopped. Just like that… Well, I’m not sure whether it abruptly stopped or tried to come on again…but when it did stop, it stopped abruptly and all-together. I remember a fleeting feeling of surprise at this, because I remembered all this immediately from the last time…

I remember no more. I believe I might have promptly fallen asleep.

But I do remember having my eyes closed and imagining and/or “seeing” the red and white demon… Just standing there, not exactly looking at me. Just there, but I think I was just remembering.

Any thoughts…? I hope someone knows what’s going on here…

Plus, a friend of mine did a Tarot card reading for me… Supposedly, the spirit/entity/etc. came back because “its will is strong.”
Supposedly, it’s “intrigued” and/or it “likes” me…?

-Vivi

Trithemius
October 7th, 2005, 06:28 PM
Have you talked to a neurologist about this by any chance? I'm no doctor, but honestly, your description of this previous incident:


When I laid down to take a nap, the feelings of "fall" started coming for about 1-2 or 2-5 seconds at a time... Needless to say, I noticed and was already a WEE bit
concerned...but I didn't really mind it... I mean - the falling, though
startling, is oddly pleasant.
Soon, whenever the "falling" would come on - starting to come every 5 -
15 seconds or so - I would start jerking around, always MUCH more than a
twitch... A jerk, a tremor, a shiver, a spasm - always medium to violent.
Once or twice, my whole body seemed to jerk on the bed, sort of jumping or
something.

sounds exactly like an epileptic seizure. I know from personal experience. Every detail matches my own experiences to a tee. Usually with seizures, a person will "black out," but it is possible to have one while being totally conscious. It is also possible to experience a variety of hallucinations during a seizure:


III) Hallucinations of neurological aetiology:

a) Epilepsy. Abnormal electric activity in diverse brain localizations may elicit hallucinatory phenomena of a peculiar nature. Alajouanine (15) quotes from Dostoyevsky's experience of an auditory aura and a sense of Epiphany: "The air was filled with a big noise and I thought it had engulfed me. I have really touched God. [No one] can imagine the happiness [epileptics] feel the second before our fit. Mahomet, in the Koran, said he has seen the Paradise... I don't know if this felicity lasts for seconds, hours or months, but, for all the joys life brings, I would not exchange this one".

Penrose and Wilder (16) reported many kinds of sensory seizures, such as feelings of numbness, tingling, heat, or water running in patients with centro-parietal foci. Abnormal electric hallucinations. Occipital cortical discharges can generate elementary visual hallucinations such as light spots, twirling objects, and geometrical figures. Etiology may include, traumatic cortical scars, post-concussion syndrome, neoplasms, infarctions, vascular malformations, lupus erythematous, degenerative, vasculitic lesions, or metabolic insult.

Olfactory, or uncinate seizures, are mostly reported as unpleasant odors, such as burning rubber, feces, rotting manure, sulfur, or indescribable. Frequently, the olfactory hallucinations are associated with aural gustatory hallucinations. The patient may describe elementary tastes like sweet, salty, bitter, or odd flavors.

The above quoted material came from this site (http://www.priory.com/halluc.htm).

Now while I am not suggesting that you are epileptic, it might be something to look into further for some answers as to what's going on.

Vivi
October 7th, 2005, 06:55 PM
Have you talked to a neurologist about this by any chance? I'm no doctor, but honestly, your description of this previous incident:



sounds exactly like an epileptic seizure. I know from personal experience. Every detail matches my own experiences to a tee. Usually with seizures, a person will "black out," but it is possible to have one while being totally conscious. It is also possible to experience a variety of hallucinations during a seizure:



The above quoted material came from this site (http://www.priory.com/halluc.htm).

Now while I am not suggesting that you are epileptic, it might be something to look into further for some answers as to what's going on.


*breathes deeply* Believe me, I'm trying...

Old Witch
October 7th, 2005, 10:29 PM
You probably had an episode of sleep paralysis....look it up.......

LadySnake
October 7th, 2005, 11:04 PM
I have had a similar experience as well. You're not alone. Mine was an incubbus(sp?), short, hairy everywhere, very ugly. It's breathing was like a low growl. Very creepy. Mine "visited" me three times when I was pregnant with my son. Hasn't happened since. When it happened to me, I didn't get scared. I got pissed!!! I was mad!!! It happened when I was in sleep paralysis, when you have absolute no physical control. The third time it happened, when I regained physical control, I jumped out of bed and yelled "Stay the !@#$ away from me!" It didn't come back.

Janelle
October 8th, 2005, 08:47 AM
You probably had an episode of sleep paralysis....look it up.......
It does sound like sleep paralysis. Definately look into that - it's very common for one to "experience" an evil presence during these episodes (including me). There is information on the internet - and some old threads on MW that you might be able to relate too.

TaysatWesir
October 8th, 2005, 11:36 AM
I am not entirely sure if it is demonic or sleep paralysis (hypnagogic or hypnopompic). I have suffered from both and it is hard to tell the difference. :rubhead:

http://www.dreamsnightmares.com/sleepparalysis.html
http://sleepparalysis.dnswh.com/what_is_sleep_paralysis.htm

aluokaloo
November 16th, 2005, 08:56 AM
well go to a doctor, and rule out all phsyical problems such as sleep paralsys, epileptic seizures etc. and then just to be on the safe side, do a bansihing, and cleansing, and ward your house. Better safe then sorry both physically and spiritually

EternalMaiden
November 16th, 2005, 08:13 PM
It sounds like you're scared to sleep too, we 'fall' asleep... And we twitch during sleep, but yours sound a bit violent which could be your "strong will" and your "intrigue" feeding into all of this.

Try to relax, invite a gold ball to encircle your being, do whatever makes you feel most comfortable while trying to fall asleep.

Imagination is a tricky, tricky thing. We are very creative beings, and we manifest every second of our lives. Unless these demons are putting pressure on your chest or physically having contact with you, I'd be grateful and just seek some guidance from a professional.
This is nothing to be ashamed about, maybe seek some help for sleeping and try to ease your worried mind.

Know that you are loved, and that visions are just visions. You don't have to invite them in.

I truly hope you find some comfort with all of this, from personal experience, I know it can be a hell of a ride.