Christian witch's afterlife....

[gurlygurl2004]

So what is your believes in an afterlife(particularly Christian witches/Wiccans)? Do you believe in a heaven/hell/purgatory? Personally I don't believe in Hell, I believe in a heaven/resting place, and reincarnation?

[Ninjakitten]

I believe the concept of Hell is simply the eternal absence of Godde. I'm not sure about the torture and stuff. I believe that it is reserved for those who reject Jesus' salvation in all ways, including in spirit, which basically means, to me, that most people are not "Hellbound", even those who are not Christian. I see the Christ spirit in many people and many faiths (ironically, I see it less in many Christians), and I think it is demeaning to say that someone has Jesus in their heart and they have to cognitively think of Jesus as saviour. He is in a person's actions and in their expression of love and, to a lesser degree, a sense of justice (like treating others fairly for example, not necessarily obeying man's laws). I do believe there are some cases of people that are so hopeless and so deliberately evil that they won't inherit "the Kingdom of Godde".

Oh, the salvation part I feel was in his acts to reconcile our imperfection and Godde's perfection so that we can be with Godde (masculine and feminine) without a sacrifice in justice... though I have to admit that I question concepts of Divine justice and karma these days. I don't feel that a human that doesn't have Divine authority (like what Jesus was given, which didn't make him literally Godde, but a representative of Godde) can possibly achieve a perfection state to be compatible with that which is perfect (Godde), and that Jesus, having Divine authority, made his ability to bridge that perfection gap sufficient for us to justly come to Godde.

I hope I explained that okay. Honestly, I'm not good at articulating my points on this issue quite yet, not since I became a Christian witch.

[Tobias]

Jesus spent quite a bit of his time delivering people from "unclean spirits". There must have been quite an epidemic of them there in Palistine at that time, probably due to the hopelessness and helplessness that the people felt with the Roman occupation.

I imagine the afterlife as an extension of this one. If in this life, you allow others (including unclean spirits) to take advantage of you, feed off your energy, and cripple you and keep you from finding your own divinity, then in the afterlife you could very well be draged by these spirits into a desolate place where "The worm dieth not, neither is the fire ever quenched."

It is quite possible that at that time, in that place, Jesus' teachings were the only ones available to lead people out from such a fate.

I don't know what the afterlife holds though. Spiritualism teaches that your afterlife depends on the friends and allies you make in this life. People always attract others like themselves. If you find a way to be friends with God, then near him you will be after you're dead. It kind of makes sense to me.

But reincarnation makes sense in a way too. At least, until we reach a certain level of spiritual evolvement.

We really can't do much more than speculate now, can we?

[Ninjakitten]

So true. That was beautiful, Tobias.

I believe in the possibility of reincarnation. I know Godde isn't limited in the possibilities of what happens to us after we die. Question is, does He/She put a limit on what happens?

I have to admit, the afterlife hasn't been on the forefront on my mind since I adopted witchcraft into my practice, and decided the Bible isn't inerrant, and tried to follow Jesus by what he did and probably preached according to the Gospels rather than the hellfire and brimstone teachings that the churches use to scare their followers into trying to "save" everyone. While I feel Christianity holds the closest thing to the ultimate truth, I don't feel that Christianity as a religion teaches it very well. I feel Christianity holds secrets the church has denied the human race, and has made it hard for us to find these secrets, even with prayer and trying to open our hearts to what Godde has to say to us. After all, sometimes Godde is merely the quiet whisper behind the powerful storm rather than the power of the storm itself.

[PoisonIvy]

I believe in God and Satan and I believe in Heaven and Hell. Heaven is your reward for doing good and Hell is your punishment for being bad(I like to call it "Hell on Earth" or "Reality". I don't really much worry about what happens after I die(if I die). Knowing my luck,I'll prolly have to live forever!

[Athene]

I believe that to come to a comfortable place with a Christian afterlife, we need to examine three concepts (at least): Satan, hell and sin. It is the doctrines that have sprung up around these that has formed our beliefs.

Scripturally, hell is not a place of fire and torture, and not a place anyone will reside in eternally.

Scripturally, 'Satan', the adversary of Godde, does not exist! (here is (http://christianwitch.net/faithsatan.htm) a simple article if you're interested)

I believe that I am formed from the divine spirit, and my body is for this beautiful time here on earth. When I shed my body I am spirit, and spirit returns to the Spirit.

What happens in between dying and returning to God, if anything, is a Mystery we are not meant to know. But it is interesting speculating on that.

:)
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[Gypsy flower]

No hell..we are living there already! {I really believe this}:deviltail

Heaven..if so where?? for so many dead people??:lilangel:

no neither .. I believe in reincarnation! what comes around goes around_violin_

[BlackMagicalCat]

Well,what do I know.

Jesus said,I go to prepare a place for you,that where I am ,there you will be also.Heaven is that place,where Christ dwells,in my mind,it is in another dimension.

Who knows where hell is,but its not where I want to go,and im not taking any chances,the price is to great,so ,like a child who holds on to his fathers hand,Im holding on to Gods hand,and am not letting go.Because where ever heaven is,thats where I want to be.

When I leave this earth,im not going to look back.

Imagine opening your eyes,and finding it heaven,and touching a hand,and finding it Gods,and breathing new air,and finding it celestial,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and being hugged,,,,and finding it God.

[Mithrea]

Well,what do I know.

Jesus said,I go to prepare a place for you,that where I am ,there you will be also.

What if the place Jesus has prepared for you is simply your next incarnation?

[Gypsy flower]

What if the place Jesus has prepared for you is simply your next incarnation?
:)

[MoonDragn]

I think you have to take a step back and really think about what you think we humans are? Are we just the sum of our physical parts and the mind really just reside in our brain. Or are we something more on a higher spiritual plane so to speak?

As far as I know, nobody has been able to answer those questions. Until we can, only the dead know what the afterlife is and from the sound of the mediums, they are playing charades.