All Wiccans Are Lesbians, Right???

[Tamaska]

That's what a close friend of mine asked me when I told him I walk the wiccan path. He was completely serious, too, I couldn't believe it. I think he was also a little disappointed when I told him that NO, indeed, not all wiccans are lesbians! :noway: I'm from an area where people are EXTREMELY conservative-- any "wild" ideas such as believing in a Goddess instead of THE God are considered enough to ostracize one from the community. People stare unabashedly with a "You're going to burn in Hell" kind of look when I wander to the Magic section of our local bookstore. Do you guys from big cities experience this? Maybe it's because I life in BFE South Dakota :). Sorry about the rant-- I'm just curious as to how everyone gets treated. Thanks!

[Amber Wynd]

I'm not Wiccan, but I am a witch. Most people around here are used to witchy-type people, but some of them still aren't comfortable with it. One of my oldest friends thinks I'm going to hell for sure and she won't step foot in my house anymore because she's worried it will rub off or something. I have a lot fun inviting her over and watching her scramble for excuses. The book store is a different story. There's only one in town and it's staffed by several ladies - some of them pagan and some Christian and they all get along beautifully. All in all, it's a lot easier here in California than most places.

[Akhkharu Asgard]

I'm not a wiccan, but if I was I doubt I could be a lesbian. There's a few a issues with that *looks down* but yeah...

[farm girl]

Not Wiccan either, but I believe in a Goddess of sorts. Women don't do it for me. Sorry to disappoint. :lol:

[Rin Daemoko]

Wouldn't that be a curious title for a book? "Confessions of a Wiccan Lesbian" now with 70% less flannel. I joke because I'm a magnificent poof myself. Behold!

[Kendrah]

Wow, the things I never knew about myself...

[Mjollnir]

They are???......HeHe, Allrigggghhhhhtttt!!!! ::googedy googedy googedy::

sorry if that was a bad Quagmire impression.

[Silverfire Darkmoon]

So does that mean I'm a Wiccan lesbain trapped in a man's body?

[Akhkharu Asgard]

So does that mean I'm a Wiccan lesbain trapped in a man's body?

Maybe you are not allowed to call yourself a Wiccan until you have of those "Operations."

[RoseKitten]

So does that mean I'm a Wiccan lesbain trapped in a man's body?
8O Yes.. yes it does...

[Anubis]

Well.. i know of at least one Wiccan coven where it seems you must be gay or lesbian to be a member... since the majority of their members are gay/lesbian.. and if you aren't .. well.. then never think you'll end up being with the "in" crowd... And they have given the locals the impression that anyone who is a member must be gay/lesbian... even some of the members look at the few straight people in the coven as an oddity... so yeah... I can see why some people would ASSUME that all Wiccans must be lesbian/gay if they only had a coven like that to base their opinions on

[Rowana]

lol! That is silly! :T I am not a lesbian, but a wiccan for sure! I would hope that all Wiccans accept lesbians and do not discriminate against anyone for their sexuality, though I'm sure there are a few out there who do. :( Anyway, it is a good thing to let people think if they're interested in you, and you would rather they weren't! :D lol!

[Lunacie]

Well, if the only Wiccans you've ever heard about or met are Dianic, then how would you know there was any other kind?

I met a group like that several years ago. They flat out told our group that men can't do magic/energy work. Huh?

[Sun_and_Saturn]

That is funny. Although I'm not really surprised anymore at some of the things people say or do. (Like my sister shrieking and running the other way when I pull out my tarot cards_whistle_ )

I can agree with Lunacie, though. If that's all you've seen, how would you know any different?

[stella01904]

MM ~ I don't think there's a big Dianic presence in SD - I think that wingnut preacher started the whole idea, you know, the guy who said feminism causes women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice Witchcraft and become lesbians. There's your root. :yayah:
BB, Stella

[Meadhbh]

Thats just sad. Them keeping it from the rest of us and all, I'm not a lesbian myself but I would have liked to have known that all Wiccans every where in the whole history of Wiccandom were homosexual women. Were does that put the founder then? Either he lied or something freaky is going on that would most likely scar me for life.

[RedRaven]

lol too funny. i`m Wiccan and i`m a guy

[Catiana]

Gee, guess I didn't get that memo, cuz I'm not a lesbian but I'm definately wiccan.

[Cain]

This has just made Wicca far more interesting for the average hetrosexual male...

[BlueMoon13]

Wouldn't that be a curious title for a book? "Confessions of a Wiccan Lesbian" now with 70% less flannel. I joke because I'm a magnificent poof myself. Behold!
Ah,well, that confirms it,then:lol:

[wolf]

I am a witch, I like flannel because it keeps me warm. I wear comfortable shoes because I get cranky when my feet hurt and trust me, you don't want me cranky. I understand the rules of football. I do not wear make-up.

I am not a Lesbian.

Not that there's anything wrong with that ...

[aislin_ryann]

I am Wiccan and not a lesbian. Even though I think that would complete more than a few guy's wetdreams if all Wiccans were Lesbians. lol Where do people come up with this crap....

[LostSheep]

Thats just sad. Them keeping it from the rest of us and all, I'm not a lesbian myself but I would have liked to have known that all Wiccans every where in the whole history of Wiccandom were homosexual women. Were does that put the founder then? Either he lied or something freaky is going on that would most likely scar me for life.
Oh, you didn't know Gerald Gardner's little secret? Never mind initiations from secret covens in the New Forest, the shocking truth was ...

[gurlygurl2004]

Well, I'm somewhat open to my path, but I've never encountered anything worse than my fire and brimstone preacher(who I never told), or my mom(who may know, but it's a taboo subject). I mean I've had Christians get in discussions with me and disapprove of my life, but the only person who has openly worried about me going to hell was my mom.

[dragoncrone]

of Wiccans/Pagans are GLBT - than of other paths - since the Goddess and her consorts offer a less judgmental, more nurturing option in the socio-theological sense.

[Akhkharu Asgard]

I am Wiccan and not a lesbian. Even though I think that would complete more than a few guy's wetdreams if all Wiccans were Lesbians. lol Where do people come up with this crap....

Actually, that would make even less interesting ladies out there who are available. We cannot have that now.

[Windsmith]

Could it be that your friend's only exposure to Wicca before now comes from "Buffy"? Or could he be taking that bumper sticker a mite too seriously? You know the one: "Sorry I missed church; I was busy practicing Witchcraft and becoming a lesbian!"

There are some covens that will only accept queer members - just as there are others that will only accept straight ones. Not all Dianics are lesbians; it's just that the ones who are are more open about it than they might be if they practiced some other religion.

[Thunder]

Thats just sad. Them keeping it from the rest of us and all, I'm not a lesbian myself but I would have liked to have known that all Wiccans every where in the whole history of Wiccandom were homosexual women. Were does that put the founder then? Either he lied or something freaky is going on that would most likely scar me for life.

Perhaps he was a lesbian traped in a man's body.

[Derestanne]

From aislin_ryann:

am Wiccan and not a lesbian. Even though I think that would complete more than a few guy's wetdreams if all Wiccans were Lesbians. lol Where do people come up with this crap....

I concluded some time ago that crap is what the vast majority of people believe in. The masses are divorced from reality; adrift in their own make believe little worlds. A 12 Dimensional Universe with 12 Strand DNA and 12 Chakras is entirely too much for the left Hemispere of the Brain to comprehend.

P.S. Are all Christians Homophobic, Monogamistic and Heterosexual? Or are many of them the final outcome of limited consciousness, poor education and child abuse? 8O

[Lunacie]

of Wiccans/Pagans are GLBT - than of other paths - since the Goddess and her consorts offer a less judgmental, more nurturing option in the socio-theological sense.

Or are they just less likely to stay silent and deny it?

[Arie]

I always get strange looks when I go to the New Age section of the Book Store. It is unnerving. When i've bought books the cashier kind of looks twice at me....maybe looking for horns or something i dont know. I did find a "witch friendly" store but its a drive and a half to get there. I've been there a couple of times and i really feel comfortable there.

[LostSheep]

Actually this is an interesting point, the idea that Wiccans are mostly female .... because of the word 'witch', I guess. I'm becoming more and more interested in Wicca, but I don't know, maybe this preconception that it's predomanantly female makes it even harder for me to actually say that I want to become a Wiccan than it does for females? that's what I kind of feel anyway; I guess it comes down to Buffy again.

[Little Billy]

People stare unabashedly with a "You're going to burn in Hell" kind of look when I wander to the Magic section of our local bookstore.

Just leer at 'em.

[Thereca]

I am still discovering my path, I have studied wicca, and in my class ws both lesbian and non lesbian members oh yeah and even a man, although his wife assured us he was no lesbian he did like girls.
I think part of the misconception comes because often in the lesbian community woment tend to gravitate more towards womens art, matriarchal religion as opposed to patriarchal, womens issues, etc. and for some it leads them into Wicca or Pagan. I hear its because in accepting a Wiccan or Pagan path youdont find harsh judgementalist as often as you would in the "mainstream religions"....In the Wiccan or Pagan tradition people are generally happy share your joy and excitement of learning and growing in spirit as opposed to what body you are inhabiting this time...


Personally, I dont wear flannel unless I am sick and wanting to cover up and hibernate in something warm and soft... then I wear my "I feel Icky" shirt and crawl under a blanket with some hot soup or tea until I feel better..

I think the statement as a whole that all wiccans are lesbians or even all lesbians are wiccan ranks up there with they are only lesbian because they haven't had the right man... simply foolish

[Akhkharu Asgard]

I always get strange looks when I go to the New Age section of the Book Store. It is unnerving. When i've bought books the cashier kind of looks twice at me....maybe looking for horns or something i dont know. I did find a "witch friendly" store but its a drive and a half to get there. I've been there a couple of times and i really feel comfortable there.

I used to work at a bookstore. One day I came in to buy some stuff from that "New Age" section. Haha. My co-workers were all of a sudden like, "What the hell??" or "I thought you were a Christian!" One guy I worked with was like, "So are you a witch, are you going to cast some spells?" And I'm like, "Yeah, if you don't shut the @#$% up." He shut up. And no I wasn't a witch. People can be so stupid sometimes!

[Sea-Witch]

Here's a twist ... I am not a Wiccan, but I am a lesbian.

Go me! :)

[Akhkharu Asgard]

Here's a twist ... I am not a Wiccan, but I am a lesbian.

Go me! :)

You can't do that! You have to be both! Weren't you paying attention? Those are the rules.

[Avalon501]

Well I am very bisexual and tend to lean more tro being a lebian , but I certainly don't feel it is a big deal , I have many friends who are very hedero and run covens. I feel it is bad when others put labels befor they have a chance to really know more people.

[Tabbykitty]

Do you guys from big cities experience this? Maybe it's because I life in BFE South Dakota :). Sorry about the rant-- I'm just curious as to how everyone gets treated. Thanks!

Oh dear..... I can understand how you feel coming from a conservative family... however, they usually mean no harm. It just stems from a lack of knowledge.

As to what its like where I live.... well, there are some advantages and disadvantages:

1. Belief in the existance of a metaphysical world is a mainstream thing for a lot of people.

2. No one stares at people who browse the new age section of a bookstore because they might be interested in it themselves.

3. Some folks will accept that its entirely possible, if I said I saw a long haired ghost with a massive tongue coming out of its mouth near an old decrepit house nearby...

Conversely,

1. The city I live in is very small. Everyone knows everyone and sometimes I have to look over my shoulder to make sure that the people I know don't catch me doing stuff that would be considered a big no-no to them at least.

2. Anyone doing magic that is outside of the types practiced by the mainstream religions is immediately considered to be dabbling in forbidden arts.

[laserhazel]

I'm not a lesbian, in fact I think that would be impossible...

[morningstar2651]

That's what a close friend of mine asked me when I told him I walk the wiccan path. He was completely serious, too, I couldn't believe it. I think he was also a little disappointed when I told him that NO, indeed, not all wiccans are lesbians! :noway: I'm from an area where people are EXTREMELY conservative-- any "wild" ideas such as believing in a Goddess instead of THE God are considered enough to ostracize one from the community. People stare unabashedly with a "You're going to burn in Hell" kind of look when I wander to the Magic section of our local bookstore. Do you guys from big cities experience this? Maybe it's because I life in BFE South Dakota :). Sorry about the rant-- I'm just curious as to how everyone gets treated. Thanks!I have man bits, and I'm pretty sure that Gerald Gardner (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Gardner) did too.

Perhaps I'm a lesbian trapped in a man's body? :huh:

[wolf]

... Or could he be taking that bumper sticker a mite too seriously? You know the one: "Sorry I missed church; I was busy practicing Witchcraft and becoming a lesbian!"...

That's a take-off on an actual quote by Pat Robertson, Televangelist and former Presidential candidate. It references the "evils" of feminism ...

Full Quote:

[Feminism is] a socialist, anti-family, political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians. --Pat Robertson, 1992 Republican National Convention

[Cain]

That's a take-off on an actual quote by Pat Robertson, Televangelist and former Presidential candidate. It references the "evils" of feminism ...

Full Quote:

[Feminism is] a socialist, anti-family, political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians. --Pat Robertson, 1992 Republican National Convention

And thats what happens when unstable minds read the story of Jason and Medea of Greek myth too much.

[Windsmith]

:fofftopic OK, I hate to take this thread down an entirely unrelated path, but why do so many people mention wearing or not wearing flannel when they discuss lesbianism? Maybe it's just because, in both of the states I've lived in, everybody wears flannel, regardless of gender or orientation. I've never ever associated it with sexuality. I just associate it with being warm. :bundled:

I guess I do also associate it with being young and broke, but that's mainly because all the ones I have were either hand-me-downs from my mom or rescued from free boxes in my college dorm. Now that I'm allegedly grown up, with a permanent job and an impending marriage, I've found myself looking at those literally threadbare flannels with their ripped sleeves and missing buttons and thinking, "I should make myself a sweater to wear around the house when I'm cold, so I can stop wearing these really tatty things." But if I gave away every piece of flannel I own, it wouldn't make me less a lesbian - nor would giving every piece of flannel I own to my mother would make her any more of one!

So where the heck did this association come from?

[stella01904]

:fofftopic OK, I hate to take this thread down an entirely unrelated path, but why do so many people mention wearing or not wearing flannel when they discuss lesbianism? MM ~ Birkenstock syndrome. BB, Stella

[LordHelmet]

OK I suppose I'll have to clarify how it works.

Wiccans are NOT lesbians, they are BISEXUAL.

Thats right folks, Wiccans have sex with each other for white magick, and with men who they keep tied up (AKA Warlocks) for Black magick. They tie each other up for threesomes for grey magick. Grey Magick is their most common and most dangorus branch of magick because because it's impossibly to recognise or trace. If you ever find to wiccans tied up, resist the temptation to pick up their preverse magical instruments and become their warlock! Untie them as this takes their power away and then turn them in to your local Paster for help with their condition, and then leave quickly as disembodied demons will be fleeing the hand of God (the church) and looking for new hosts.

[Strawberry Bounce]

That's what a close friend of mine asked me when I told him I walk the wiccan path. He was completely serious, too, I couldn't believe it. I think he was also a little disappointed when I told him that NO, indeed, not all wiccans are lesbians! :noway: I'm from an area where people are EXTREMELY conservative-- any "wild" ideas such as believing in a Goddess instead of THE God are considered enough to ostracize one from the community. People stare unabashedly with a "You're going to burn in Hell" kind of look when I wander to the Magic section of our local bookstore. Do you guys from big cities experience this? Maybe it's because I life in BFE South Dakota :). Sorry about the rant-- I'm just curious as to how everyone gets treated. Thanks!
Does he know that male Wiccans exist?

[wolf]

When your primary sources of information are Buffy and Charmed, your view tends to be a little skewed.

[Derestanne]

Greetings LordHelmet,

Ah! now that explains everything! Thank you so much!

And can we assume that you are speaking from many years of "professional experience"? :smoke:

[johenn123]

I'm not a wiccan, but if I was I doubt I could be a #######. There's a few a issues with that *looks down* but yeah...
lol, at school some people call me and other girls "gayboy" Now I doubt we'd have a problem with that! :yayah:

[Astara Seague]

amazing, but thoughtful I suppose we are quite loving in comparison to "normal mainline" folk, a bit more huggy and much nicer- but lesbian? hmm I get treated more like a hippy then a lesbian. But alot of the lesbians here are still under wraps so people dont really know how they are or are not

[dragoncrone]

Or are they just less likely to stay silent and deny it?

That's kind of what I was getting at - perhaps not succintly enough :hahugh:

[Penthesilea]

Lesbian? That sound you hear is my husband laughing himself sick.....

[LostSheep]

amazing, but thoughtful I suppose we are quite loving in comparison to "normal mainline" folk, a bit more huggy and much nicer- but lesbian? hmm I get treated more like a hippy then a lesbian. But alot of the lesbians here are still under wraps so people dont really know how they are or are not
Oh boy, now I've got an image ... lesbians under wraps .... wrapped in what? That's what i want to know.

[Penthesilea]

Oh boy, now I've got an image ... lesbians under wraps .... wrapped in what? That's what i want to know.I can't speak for Lesbians but I like fake fur -- black or red.

[Thunder]

I used to be a lesbian… now I’m lactose intolerant.

[Thereca]

Personally, I prefer, satin, silk and lace..but I know a lesbian who pefersSequin gowns.. oh then there is that one who likes sweatshirts, oh and the one who is always wearing slacks, and the teacher one who wears peasant skirts, and dont for get doctor lesbian she like her scrubs eve if she is operating, and the minister she like casual suits(funny for a lesbian she should wear the mans style but she dont) and the city counsel lesbian she usually wears skirts too, oh but the mail lady lesbian of course wears that uniform....and the other school teacher she changes depending on the season..and playground duty..
BTW none of them are Wiccan and all of them or not under wraps, or "in" the closet..

[KaidaMidnight]

Man, is my husband going to freak when he finds out not only that I'm a lesbian, but that he is one too! :lol: LOL.. guess that's what happens when you watch to much tv and don't research something.

As to the weird looks, we get them all the time. We went into a bookstore to purchase a new book (Drawing Down the Moon : Witches, Druids, Goddess-Worshippers, and Other Pagans in America Today
By Margot Adler ... very good book so far) and the cashier looked at us then said, your not dressed like a witch. LOL.. Hubby looked back at her and said "sorry, our pointed hats and capes are at the dry cleaner, but our broom is parked out front if you'd like a look". I almost didn't make it out of the store before cracking up laughing.

[Akhkharu Asgard]

So wait a second. You all *aren't* lesbians? I was lied to! I demand a refund!

[Windsmith]

So wait a second. You all *aren't* lesbians? I was lied to! I demand a refund!I am. If that makes you feel any better. :lol:

[Akhkharu Asgard]

I am. If that makes you feel any better. :lol:

Oh. Well. That is a *little* better. :) Haha.

[Lunacie]

Man, is my husband going to freak when he finds out not only that I'm a lesbian, but that he is one too! :lol: LOL.. guess that's what happens when you watch to much tv and don't research something.

As to the weird looks, we get them all the time. We went into a bookstore to purchase a new book (Drawing Down the Moon : Witches, Druids, Goddess-Worshippers, and Other Pagans in America Today
By Margot Adler ... very good book so far) and the cashier looked at us then said, your not dressed like a witch. LOL.. Hubby looked back at her and said "sorry, our pointed hats and capes are at the dry cleaner, but our broom is parked out front if you'd like a look". I almost didn't make it out of the store before cracking up laughing.

Excellent response! :rotfl:

It says right there on the cover "Witches, Druids, Goddess-Worshippers, and Other Pagans". Didn't it occur to the clerk that you all might have been Druids? Of course, you weren't dressed like Druids either I take it. ;)

[Thunder]

So wait a second. You all *aren't* lesbians? I was lied to! I demand a refund!

I hereby refund the nothing you paid.

[Tamaska]

Does he know that male Wiccans exist?

I had my friend, who so unwittingly bestirred this thread, visit MW and read all of the replies to my first post-- now he feels really dumb. :lol: He asked me to tell you guys that he had NO idea there were even REAL witches (his words) and that they could actually be MEN! I'm not sure how I became associated with such a simpleton. Rest assured he never meant any harm, he's just completely clueless, like so many others here in the wonderful state of South Dakota!

[LordHelmet]

Before you go off the handle demanding refunds... think... What good is a lesbian? What can I possibly gain from that to begin with???

Fortunatly for you they're Bi and Jesus already paid for all of your sins!!! Now if you would kindly return me that refund...

[Lunacie]

I had my friend, who so unwittingly bestirred this thread, visit MW and read all of the replies to my first post-- now he feels really dumb. :lol: He asked me to tell you guys that he had NO idea there were even REAL witches (his words) and that they could actually be MEN! I'm not sure how I became associated with such a simpleton. Rest assured he never meant any harm, he's just completely clueless, like so many others here in the wonderful state of South Dakota!

That's so cool that you could your friend to come over and read this thread. I'm probably really dumb myself about a number of subjects that I've never learned anything about, so he shouldn't feel so dumb. Besides we had a marvelous time discussing it and got a few laughs. ;)

[KaidaMidnight]

Let your friend know that it is ok... I ,at least, had a good laugh. :lol:

Not the first time things have been said.. and it won't be the last. Tis the world we live in.

[Whitewolf]

Best Thread Ever. "Sorry, our pointed hats and capes are at the dry cleaner, but our broom is parked out front if you'd like a look". <------ Best response ever. I usually don't get looks from the cashier when I purchase books like that. If I did I'd just ignore it.


-Jessica [Whitewolf]

[Valkie]

That's what a close friend of mine asked me when I told him I walk the wiccan path. He was completely serious, too, I couldn't believe it. I think he was also a little disappointed when I told him that NO, indeed, not all wiccans are lesbians! :noway: I'm from an area where people are EXTREMELY conservative-- any "wild" ideas such as believing in a Goddess instead of THE God are considered enough to ostracize one from the community. People stare unabashedly with a "You're going to burn in Hell" kind of look when I wander to the Magic section of our local bookstore. Do you guys from big cities experience this? Maybe it's because I life in BFE South Dakota :). Sorry about the rant-- I'm just curious as to how everyone gets treated. Thanks!
rotflmao!!

Sorry... I had to... it never fails to amaze me with the ignorence of others who are trapped in their own little worlds.

I can't say that I'm from the "big city", just a little 'burb south of Boston, but when I hear things like this I can't help but be thankful that I live here. I know more wiccians/witches/athiest/pagans than I do christians. Honestly, it's more like "wow... you're a christian!"

Who knows... maybe it's because we've got the whole Salem history going on around here that people aren't afraid to come out of the broom closet... or maybe I just attract those kind of people ;)

[Akhkharu Asgard]

Before you go off the handle demanding refunds... think... What good is a lesbian? What can I possibly gain from that to begin with???

Fortunatly for you they're Bi and Jesus already paid for all of your sins!!! Now if you would kindly return me that refund...

If you ever went to the Wacky Wiccan Lesbian website you would realize how right I am. (Warning: This is a joke, I really have no idea if there is a wacky lesbian website) :yikess:

[Foxy_gurl16]

the Wiccan communitiy is no different from other communitiys, we have our gays, strights, and bis.. Most peole think (or so I have be told), that Wiccans are gay, becuase of the kind of spells we do. With gems, wands, alters, candles, and robs. and being gay isn't a bad thing!

[Qeniheru]

Hmm. Being from a really small town myself, I can identify with the feeling of being ostracized for not being Christian. When I go to college in a much larger town however, people are a bit more open. Sometimes I will run across a person who will refuse to talk to me once they discover I'm pagan, but for the most part people are pretty cool about it. Nobody knows I am bisexual though except my close friends here. *wonders which would be more offensive to the locals :rolleyes:*

In my college town we have a pagan student organization--something that would never fly in my hometown, especially not at the mostly conservative community college there. Hell, we had a hard enough time starting a videogame club there. :ahhhh:

(thinks big city life is the life for her :steppy: )

[SilentDreams]

Too incorporate a mean girls quote for fun:

Janis Ian: "I don't know why I did it. I guess its cause I have a big LESSSBIAN crush on you!"

[White West]

I have never told anyone bout my 'spiritual leanings' and while that might sound quite extreme (it gives new meaning to 'solitary' right?) the conservative lil town I live in would probably die of shock. My mates would all think I'd finally lost it -but what do you expect from 18 year olds??? Saying I was lesbian would probably go down better! I wouldn't tell my parents in a million years and I always cringe going into the library. I simply couldn't be bothered with the stares and gossip so I just keep it to myself...its easier that way. But I do hate the crappy opinion most have of us- they would probaly have nothing but respect if I was a good christian girl:lol:

[LostSheep]

If you ever went to the Wacky Wiccan Lesbian website you would realize how right I am. (Warning: This is a joke, I really have no idea if there is a wacky lesbian website) :yikess:
I Googled...

Results 1 - 10 of about 220 English pages for "wacky lesbians"

[wiccanchik]

hi i'm kinda a wiccan but not practising a lot of it at da moment in the answer 2 ur question no not all wiccans are lesbians i'm bi

[Tamaska]

In my college town we have a pagan student organization--something that would never fly in my hometown, especially not at the mostly conservative community college there. Hell, we had a hard enough time starting a videogame club there. :ahhhh:

That's too funny... I know the pagan club would go over like a lead balloon in my town. Unfortunately this is my hometown and I go to college here, so there's no escaping the smothering blanket of intolerance that is my community. :bangyourh

[Akhkharu Asgard]

I Googled...

Oh dear god(s)! forget Poetry class. *clickity click click clickity click*

[Windsmith]

Oh. Well. That is a *little* better. :) Haha.Except - wait! :doh2: I forgot to tell you: I'm not Wiccan!

I've failed you. I'm so sorry.

[StarSpiral]

Well the male Wiccan certainly aren't all lesbians. And some of us girls are bisexual so there ;) (not that I'm Wiccan, just Pagan).

I think that this kind of stereotype comes from the close relationship between Goddess spirituality and Dianic Wicca and radical feminism, which then leads into an assumtion of "all feminists are lesbians". Which is perpetuated by the kinds of "white witches" and Wiccans that the media finds to represent us on talk shows and special interest features around Hallowe'en.

[LadyCelt]

maybe people who think that watch too much Buffy :)

[morningstar2651]

That's too funny... I know the pagan club would go over like a lead balloon in my town. Unfortunately this is my hometown and I go to college here, so there's no escaping the smothering blanket of intolerance that is my community. :bangyourh
For those that are interested, here is the meeting minutes (http://www.angelfire.com/theforce/morningstar2651/030305minutes.pdf) of a student senate meeting in which a Pagan organization is brought up to the senate of a Christian college. That was a long night.

[Thunder]

People stare unabashedly with a "You're going to burn in Hell" kind of look when I wander to the Magic section of our local bookstore. Do you guys from big cities experience this? Maybe it's because I life in BFE South Dakota :). Sorry about the rant-- I'm just curious as to how everyone gets treated. Thanks!

I guess it’s all relative. I could walk into the Barnes & Noble near me and lay a corpse on the counter, as long as it had a barcode it wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. (*Pricecheck on corpse at register two*). Actually we get alot of that in NY.

[Willow Rosette]

That's what a close friend of mine asked me when I told him I walk the wiccan path. He was completely serious, too, I couldn't believe it. I think he was also a little disappointed when I told him that NO, indeed, not all wiccans are lesbians! :noway: I'm from an area where people are EXTREMELY conservative-- any "wild" ideas such as believing in a Goddess instead of THE God are considered enough to ostracize one from the community. People stare unabashedly with a "You're going to burn in Hell" kind of look when I wander to the Magic section of our local bookstore. Do you guys from big cities experience this? Maybe it's because I life in BFE South Dakota :). Sorry about the rant-- I'm just curious as to how everyone gets treated. Thanks!


LMAO Thats a good one. I have never gotten anything like that before but the best one I get is walking down the street with my 3 year old daughter. Now keep in mind she is a loud forward child that says exactly what is on her mind when she is thinking it. She has no clue what shy is.

We will be walking down the street and she will just start singing, and not just singing but bellowing, her Goddess Bless Me song. The looks on peoples faces are enough to make me laugh so hard I could cry. It is one thing to believe it yourself but when you teach it to a child the looks are so funny. Its like they are thinking "your her parent and your conemning her to hell...." or something.

It gives me the total giggles..........

[LostSheep]

:lol:

[KaidaMidnight]

LMAO Thats a good one. I have never gotten anything like that before but the best one I get is walking down the street with my 3 year old daughter. Now keep in mind she is a loud forward child that says exactly what is on her mind when she is thinking it. She has no clue what shy is.

We will be walking down the street and she will just start singing, and not just singing but bellowing, her Goddess Bless Me song. The looks on peoples faces are enough to make me laugh so hard I could cry. It is one thing to believe it yourself but when you teach it to a child the looks are so funny. Its like they are thinking "your her parent and your conemning her to hell...." or something.

It gives me the total giggles..........

LOL ! :lol: that is too cute! Our son doesn't have any songs, but he does say his night time prayer to the Goddess and the Elements. Never had him do it in public though.. lol.. I'm sure that'll come in time. Good to see your daughter is proud :D

[Thunder]

Its like they are thinking "your her parent and your conemning her to hell...." or something.

It gives me the total giggles..........

Did you ever notice how many "mainstream" religions think that heaven is limited to a certain total number of saved souls. Generally that means just them. Yet they never say the same about hell.

Are we to believe that satan did a better job of planning for the future than God.

I want Satan in charge of my 401K.

[cartweel]

As I was reading this thread, all I could think was "You mean I have to come out to Mom again?!"

[Platinum Dove]

I can't believe I just saw this thread! :lol: I'm a Wiccan, or wiccan, or a witch, depending on who you talk to :P, and I'm bi. Did being Wiccan/wiccan/witch make me bi? Heck no! My fiance did!

[LordHelmet]

Did being Wiccan/wiccan/witch make me bi? Heck no! My fiance did!

You give him a pat on the back for me will ya. Making the world a better place for men, one woman at a time!

[Siqoni]

>.>
I'm not lesbian and I am wiccan. Though... with my past relationships with people, and how they turned out to be is making me wounder if I should look at girls too. o.o (Nah.. I am just to hooked on guys, I couldn't go bi or les.)

Anyways, I never get those weird looks, since I live in the LETS REBEL AGAINST SOCIETY town.
Everyone is goth punk or skater >.>
And there are fluffy bunnies in this town... they scare me.
Our walden book store doesn't have a magic section. It has a whole section devoted to every SINGLE version of the bible known to man.

[Bethra]

I was under the impresion that the general concensus was that wiccans were all bisexual but yeah lesbian I guess I can see how it could be mistaken. after all there are no male wiccans are there. *rolls eyes and gives up on this whole mindset*

[Silverwolfthorn]

all Wiccans are lesbians even the male ones. And if you disagree you are a closet lesbian and in denial. Just like all Christians are transgender and all Muslims drink pigs blood on weekends.

Dear oh dear. I haven't really experienced any bad comments because of what i believe in. Probably because i don't make it known, if they ask i'll tell them but otherwise i tend not to because i don't want every people on my back and i'm happy keeping it private. Some people see religion as something private others want to make it public.

It's an interesting misconception that all Wiccans are lesbians. I haven't heard that one before. But i guess its because Wicca can be seen as pro woman. Ie the introduction of a female diety. Any way i will definatley have to consider whether that misconception is correct. Am i a lesbian?

[Akhkharu Asgard]

Just like all Christians are transgender
WHAT?!?!?!? :awilly:

[LostSheep]

I was under the impresion that the general concensus was that wiccans were all bisexual
well gosh, you mean I was misinformed? I want my money back.

[LordHelmet]

why do you want your money back now?

[Akhkharu Asgard]

well gosh, you mean I was misinformed? I want my money back.

Good luck. I still have yet to get my refund for the lesbian lie.

[Siqoni]

A lot of people think of every wiccan being bi or lesbian, for the fact that the religion is pro-femenism.
Yes, mostly wiccans are women, but there are male wiccan's to. Not every wiccan female is lesbian, or even bi, they are just pro-fem. Being a pro-fem myself doesn't make me lesbian or bi.

[morningstar2651]

WHAT?!?!?!? :awilly:
Didn't you get the memo?

[Akhkharu Asgard]

Didn't you get the memo?

Crap! So if I grew up a Christian. was I born a woman? Oh dear!

[Ron]

Well.. i know of at least one Wiccan coven where it seems you must be gay or lesbian to be a member... since the majority of their members are gay/lesbian.. and if you aren't .. well.. then never think you'll end up being with the "in" crowd... And they have given the locals the impression that anyone who is a member must be gay/lesbian... even some of the members look at the few straight people in the coven as an oddity... so yeah... I can see why some people would ASSUME that all Wiccans must be lesbian/gay if they only had a coven like that to base their opinions on
I love those kind of covens. lol. Way to turn the mainstream values inside out. lol. :santasmil

[Kaylara]

Wait, you mean we're not all lesbians? Shit.

[Morrigan_Wolfwind]

:lol: HA! All Wiccans are lesbians, eh? Then I should expect a more romantic relationship with one of my best friends any time now, since she's bi. No wonder Willow and Tara hooked up after she became Wiccan!

But on the serious side, all Wiccans are NOT lesbians. I think it'd be cool to be bi, but alas! I am perfectly straight!

I'm still openminded about sexuality, though.

[LadyCelt]

I think since certain faiths seem to condemn (or people assume they do) homosexuality or bisexuality, this may make it seem more prevelate in Wicca. I think its less like a Christian would come out as being Bi or Gay or in a Christian community. Same with some other faiths. But, if Wicca is not against bi or homosexuality it may seem more prevelant when really it is just people being more open. Just a thought.

[Cassie]

I think since certain faiths seem to condemn (or people assume they do) homosexuality or bisexuality, this may make it seem more prevelate in Wicca. I think its less like a Christian would come out as being Bi or Gay or in a Christian community. Same with some other faiths. But, if Wicca is not against bi or homosexuality it may seem more prevelant when really it is just people being more open. Just a thought.

I think your thought is right on the button. :)

[Lunacie]

I think since certain faiths seem to condemn (or people assume they do) homosexuality or bisexuality, this may make it seem more prevelate in Wicca. I think its less like a Christian would come out as being Bi or Gay or in a Christian community. Same with some other faiths. But, if Wicca is not against bi or homosexuality it may seem more prevelant when really it is just people being more open. Just a thought.

Yep, that's what I suggested clear back in post #30. :uhhuhuh:

[stella01904]

MM ~ That, and the fact that we welcome people who are gay or bi. It's a non-issue. In fact, there is even a school of thought that only bisexual people have both energy channels (akin to the Eastern ida and pingala concept) fully functioning. BB, Stella

[LordHelmet]

OK I spent like half an hour browsing and googleing and I can't seem to find any serious sites dedicated to Wiccan Lesbians or Pagan Lesbians, I found plenty of sites for gay male pagans, I found a few links to supposed pagan lesbian yahoo groups and AOL groups.

I give up, Im not finding a wacky wiccan lesbian site. However there are an abundance of good sites for lesbians... webcam ect.

[LordHelmet]

MM ~ That, and the fact that we welcome people who are gay or bi. It's a non-issue. In fact, there is even a school of thought that only bisexual people have both energy channels (akin to the Eastern ida and pingala concept) fully functioning. BB, Stella

Um, yea. I'm gonna have to agree with that school of thought. Right on the money. Actualy I don't quite get it but I like it.

[Lunacie]

OK I spent like half an hour browsing and googleing and I can't seem to find any serious sites dedicated to Wiccan Lesbians or Pagan Lesbians, I found plenty of sites for gay male pagans, I found a few links to supposed pagan lesbian yahoo groups and AOL groups.

I give up, Im not finding a wacky wiccan lesbian site. However there are an abundance of good sites for lesbians... webcam ect.

Maybe that's because most Pagan lesbians follow the Dianic religion, which isn't actually Wiccan. If you Google "Dianic" you might find something.

[LordHelmet]

Maybe that's because most Pagan lesbians follow the Dianic religion, which isn't actually Wiccan. If you Google "Dianic" you might find something.

thx, that is a good idea. But no good results there either.

[Akhkharu Asgard]

thx, that is a good idea. But no good results there either.

Is there a Wacky Dianic Lesbian website?

[Lunacie]

thx, that is a good idea. But no good results there either.

Hmm, really? I used MSN search and found this site: http://www.thissideofsanity.com/dianic/dianic.html

[LordHelmet]

Hmm, really? I used MSN search and found this site: http://www.thissideofsanity.com/dianic/dianic.html

thx, but I already found that. We're looking for the waky wiccan lesbians, or the wacky dianic lesbians. This site tells us that dianics tend to be lesbians, but the rest of it is about goddesses and inner goddess spirituality. Thats all good and fine but what we want is decidedly lesbian, or bisexual. You know, lesbian witch stories, propaganda for our girlfriends, pictures... movies.

but thx though, it is sweet of you. :)

[mysticrayne]

WEll not for nothing I t hink that is rude, but so what if we all r :) hehe i think it is just as wiccan or pagan we r more open to our innerselves our inner feelings. I like men I have kids but i also will look at a pretty woman and Im not shy about it I have even told male friends wow she is pretty i think women look at other women differently then a man would, we see woman for inner beauty. DOes this make me a lesbian ???

[brighid's child]

I suppose there wil be a lot of unhappy husband's/ male partners out there when this lesbian bit gets around.:lol:

[stella01904]

MM ~ I would think the more optimistic ones would be tickled. :rotfl:
BB, Stella

[Arie]

MM ~ I would think the more optimistic ones would be tickled. :rotfl:
BB, Stella

I agree. What man wouldnt want that.

[wicked_craft]

This made me laugh...haha :hehehehe:

[LostSheep]

I suppose there wil be a lot of unhappy husband's/ male partners out there when this lesbian bit gets around.:lol:
i kind of suspect that quite a few would be quite pleased ...

I'm saying nothing _inabox_

[Lunacie]

MM ~ I would think the more optimistic ones would be tickled. :rotfl:
BB, Stella

Why? Why would a man be happy to learn that his partner is a lesbian and prefers women to him? :huh:

[LostSheep]

I'd suggest taking a look on the top shelf of your local video store ... there seems to be quite a market ..

... so I'm told anyway _inabox_

[Gypsy flower]

some think I am lesbian
but no I really like men!!!

[MorningDove030202]

I don't think all Pagan women are Practicing Lesbians, but perhapse we have all thought about it?????? ;)

Dove

[Lunacie]

I know all human women are not practicising lesbians, but I'll bet nearly all of us have at least thought about it once.

[WokeUpDead]

I know all human women are not practicising lesbians, but I'll bet nearly all of us have at least thought about it once.
But it is fun to mess with the ones that don't admit it

[LordHelmet]

Yes I know I've thought about it quite a bit, being a lesbian. There are some dreams that will never be. Perhaps thats why there's such a market for it on video. I don't doubt Buffy and Angel gained a lot better ratings with the whole lesbian thing.

[Philosophia]

*Bows*
As a bi-sexual (leaning more towards women) witch, can we please stop the assumptions that all lesbians were flannel?
Yuck!
Thank you!

[stella01904]

I don't doubt Buffy and Angel gained a lot better ratings with the whole lesbian thing.MM ~ Even the Sailor Scouts have a lesbian couple! :D
BB, Stella

[RoseKitten]

MM ~ Even the Sailor Scouts have a lesbian couple! :D
BB, Stella

They're not lesbians... they're just close... *cough*8O