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~Elise~
January 15th, 2006, 10:58 AM
Definition: Living person who "drains" others emotionally either empathically (draining the auric life force) or metaphorically (someone who takes emotionally without giving anything back; a "user").

Psychic vampires feed off their victim's energy, or prana (the Hindu name for energy or life force), in the same way that mythical vampires drink human blood to feed themselves. Not all psychic vampires are doing this consciously though. People who are emotionally needy or manipulate others to get their own way by making them feeling guilty are unconscious vampires. Spending time with a particular person can leave you feeling drained physically and emotionally. This is an indication of psychic vampirism. Some people consciously take other's energy by tapping into their victim's aura and draining the energy that way. People who are particularly sensitive or vulnerable are more likely to be a target for psychic vampires. Fear leaves people open to this form of attack.
Let's face it--we've probably all fallen prey to a psychic vampire, possibly without even knowing it. It may have been a chance encounter with an energy predator that left us temporarily exhausted, or possibly along-term vampire interaction with serious wear-and-tear effects on the mind and body.

Psychic vampirism is alive and flourishing in the world today. As consumers of energy rather than blood, vampires of the psychic kind exist in many guises but with one common trait--their own inadequate energy system compels them to tap into and feed upon the energies of unsuspecting host victims. The immediate results of such a one-on-one vampire encounter are anew but temporary surge of energy for the psychic vampire and a serious loss of mental and physical energy for the unsuspecting prey. If you suddenly feel emotionally or mentally depleted, you may be under attack by a psychic vampire. The unfortunate effects of prolonged energy loss are damage to the energy system itself and in some instances, serious illness.

As consumers of energy rather than blood, psychic vampires, like their folklore counterparts, can be men or women, young or old. They can be tween, teens, or adults. They can be professionals in business suits, wealthy dot. comers, dapper CEOs, ultra-groovy rock stars, or construction workers in hard hats. They can be a business associate, next door neighbor, or even family member.

This is from New Worlds, Issue NW023 by Joe Slate:


Psychic vampirism is alive and flourishing in the world today. It exacts a heavy toll-it demands life-force energy and in some instances, it literally destroys lives. At a personal level, it wastes our energies, dampens the immune system, and undermines the body’s natural defenses against illness. At a global level, it can literally drain the earth of its survival resources and interrupt its harmony and balance. It follows that finding ways of preventing psychic vampirism, or successfully counteracting it, must be among our top priorities. There are several forms of psychic vampirism, each of which demands a host victim.

In the one-on-one vampire encounter, the psychic vampire taps into the energy system of a selected host victim for the express purpose of extracting energy. Typical one-on-one psychic vampires are not agents of evil bent on the destruction of their victims. Furthermore, they possess none of the supernatural powers attributed to folklore vampires. They function instead from a position of profound weakness. Deficient in energy, and with their own energy system usually impaired, they seek other energy options-the energy system of a host victim.

Almost everyone has experienced the common vampire interaction that left them both mentally and physically fatigued. Unfortunately, the psychic vampire’s energy system is only temporarily replenished, thus requiring repeated attacks. For the host victim of recurring attacks, the consequences can be extremely harmful.

In the group setting, psychic vampirisrn can involve multiple vampires and victims. It can occur within groups and between groups, with power, wealth, and control being among its major goals. Highly competitive groups whose goal is to subdue or defeat the opposition, along with heated political campaigns, seem particularly vulnerable to group psychic vampirism. In its most dangerous form, it can include the organized activities of predator gangs, criminal groups, and drug trafficking networks.

Even major corporations have been known to stoop to psychic vampirism. Any organization that exploits human beings has clear fingerprints of psychic vampirism. Big Tobacco with its long history of predatory marketing practices, some of which targeted children. Enron Corporation’s vampirization of its beleaguered employees are examples of corporate psychic vampirism on an alarming scale.

The globe itself is vulnerable to psychic vampirism that recklessly exhausts its natural resources, pollutes its environment, threatens its species, and erodes its potential for progress. Psychic vampirism’s consequences can span centuries. It can affect everyone and in some instances, it literally puts the future of the planet at risk.

An internal form of vampirism, parasitic vampires are twice the victim-they are both vampire and host. Examples are phobias, obsessions, compulsions, and an array of self-defeating stress reactions-each of which is like a blood-sucking vampire with a demonic appetite. The more they devour, the more they demand. By attacking from the inside, they drain their host of essential energy, and eventually grid down the energy system itself.
Some warning signs that may make you aware that you are being preyed on in this way are: tiredness, fatigue, depression, headaches, nausea, dizziness, feeling drained, anxiety, panic attacks and nightmares. If the attacks continue, then the victim can become very ill, both physically and psychologically. Some people believe that the practice of psychic vampirism can make you live for ever.

Understand, psychic vampires are typically not mean, cruel people. Oftentimes, they are totally unaware of their impact on others. Initially, they are quite charming and attractive. They draw others in with their cunning and guile. Like vampires displayed on Hollywood's silver screen, psychic vampires avoid looking at themselves in the mirror. This avoidance of mirrors signifies a psychological tendency to avoid the self. The psychic vampire avoids, at all costs, self-examination. As you know, vampires literally live in the dark. Similarly, psychic vampires refuse to become enlightened by the light of knowledge. They lurk in darkness, under cover and unaware of how they negatively influence and drain other peoples' emotional energy.

Having avoided self-reflection, these individuals naturally deny responsibility for how they affect others and how they attempt to live off the energy of others. For instance, a typical interaction with a psychic vampire might appear like this:
The PV usually begins a conversation with a complaint of some sort. If the person they're talking with chooses to respond with a solution, optimistic comment or some other positive response, the PV will literally live off that person's positive energy. Rather than do this for him/herself, the PV relies on other people to provide him/her with this type of energy. As the word "vampire" conveys, the PV saps the energy of others, which is why the other person ends up feeling emotionally drained.

It is not unusual for a person who is ill or feeling inadequate emotionally to draw upon or deplete energized individuals of their life force. These "suckers" are not bad people, most of them are not aware on a conscious level that they are doing what they are doing. Still, their unknowing actions can play havoc with anyone who leaves an energetic opening for this type of thievery. It is important for us to be aware that we may be susceptible to having our energies stolen from us and learn ways to protect ourselves. The harm in a psychic attack is that there is no fair exchange of energy and therefore one feels depleted while the other becomes energized.

The hard part in dealing with these type people is that initially they do implant themselves into your lives as friends. Then through a slow process the friendship is replaced by a constant draining on you. Being that we know that some people take longer than others to get through their issues we continue to try to help. What I have discovered in them is that they do not really want the help to improve their lives. They want to release the energy to someone else so they can continue on their way. They are in essence vampires of your energy and need to be removed from your life.

Do not let their issues become your issues. Refuse to accept or absorb their issues as your own. Become aware of what individuals deplete your energy and limit your contact with them. Using the Visualization Techniques that you’ve already been learning in this course- Build walls of protection or create a bubble of light surrounding your auric field.
The harm in a psychic attack is that there is no fair exchange of energy and therefore one feels depleted while the other becomes energized.

Symbiotics

This is another form of psychic vampire with the exception that these creatures survive on the draining of negative energy alone. As an example, usually they will seek out and draw strength from sickness in any human they encounter.

In draining the negative energy a victim invariably feels better and is possibly even healthier. The difference between the two forms is that symbiotics drain negative energy with intent but at the same time do not usually wish to harm their victim.

However psychic vampires drain any energy they can, sometimes harming the victim.
Please note though, some psychic vampires and symbiotics are not evil! They can be good and bad just like you and me.

Traits of A Psychic Vampire

• experiences feelings of abandonment or rejection
• needs constant reassurance
• never feels satisfied
• seeks nurturing
• low energy - fatigued

Symptoms Of Psychic Attack

• leaky or diminishing aura
• dizziness
• loss of energy
• muscle tension
• mental confusion
• headaches
• chronic fatigue
• sleep disturbances
• irritability
• depressed mood
• physical illness

Among healers the sharing of energy is referred to as cording. This cord represents life support tubing energetically connecting two individuals together. Babies are born with a cord attaching them to their mothers, this is natural. But there comes a time for a mother to Cut the Apron Strings allowing her child to go out into the world on its own. This is appropriate. If the mother fails to break the cord, the child will eventually attempt to do it. This too is appropriate.

Actually if the energy sharing was done equally it would be silly to have the cord in place at all. It is possible to be in a relationship without cording one another, in fact it is preferable. Couples that share one life source ordinarily create a relationship in which one individual becomes weaker, the other stronger. The weakened person feels collapsed because of giving away his/her life source. The stronger person feels great for a time, but his/her appetite may very well increase, craving more and more of the shared energy.

There are different types of situations we face in life that are difficult. Ending relationships ranks pretty high up in the "tough stuff" category. It doesn't matter if you were the person who walked away or if someone else left you, a loss is felt either way. It is especially painful if a relationship ends without closure. Unfortunately, often times when people "breakup" what they don't realize is that they may very well still have cords attached. The intact cord keeps an open channel for continuous feeding on each others emotions and anxieties.

One way to cut the cord, so to speak is to do a visualization similar to this one that I teach:

Go into a meditative state.

See your body.

See all the cords extending from your etheric body. Some of those cords you will want to keep, be they relationships with your kids, SO, spouse, family, parents, friends, etc.
Some of those you are going to want to sever; ex-bfs, ex-husbands, friends and family that are no longer in your life, co-workers from jobs that you don't even work at anymore.

See those cords attaching into your body with a bungee-cord type of hook/attachment.

Pick one cord at a time...pull that cord towards you to give you a bit of slack to be be able to unhook it from your body without tearing it out.

Cut the end of the cord that was attached to you...sometimes just a blade or ax won't do it. Sometimes that hook will be as big as an anchor. KNOW that you will have whatever tool available to you that will cut the end off that cord so it can not reattach itself to you.

DO NOT ATTEMPT TO CUT THE OTHER PERSON'S END. You only need to worry about your end. Without the hook on it, it can not reattach itself to you.

Now, that said...an experienced psyvamp can reattach that cord once they realize they are not attached to you any longer. So you may need to do this several time over the course of a couple of months.

I've been known to call on Archangel Michael to cut one cord with his flaming sword. I just could not get it done on my own. Needless to say, that one never came back.


Another way of subtle protection upon which you will not have to concentrate is by using herb pouches, or gem stones that you carry with you or wear in the form of a necklace etc. These can be quite good, but do remember to take them off and cleanse them every so often as they will suck in the negativity etc and you may find it will begin to affect you mentally and physically.

Now -- what is the difference between a psychic vampire and a psychic attack? Here is an excerpt of an article written by Christopher Penczak:


Psychic Attacks
Psychic attacks come in many forms. The simplest is an everyday experience. Someone says something bad about you, makes a judgment, calls you a name, yells or curses at you. The person is directing his or her energy in a harmful way toward you. If you are not strong enough in self-esteem and personal power, these little attacks take their toll.
Do not become paranoid with this information. Do not go running around accusing everyone who does not agree with you of a psychic attack. Such negativity is not meant as an attack. It is an unfortunate by-product of how our society conducts itself. This is a simple, subtle way harmful energy is directed. We all do it at times. Most often, we do it to ourselves. We judge ourselves as not worthy, not attractive, not lovable, and these images become thought forms, packets of energy, filled with a poor self-image. When people experience an "attack," they usually are experiencing and clearing these thought forms. Be aware and responsible of your own thoughts, directed towards yourself and others.
Other thought forms and astral entities have a life of their own. You might feel a malevolent presence or voice. These are the reported demons and devils plaguing mystics. They take the form of your greatest fears. Their goal is your fear, your attention, your time and energy. They draw energy from you to feed their existence. Ignoring them is an easy way to break their hold. Laughter is even better. If you don't take them seriously, they will lose power.
The last kind of psychic attack is the most rare, coming from another practitioner of the magickal arts. These attacks come as curses, wishing bad luck, nightmares and psychic or mental pain. Usually, the person knows you and will have some vendetta against you. My mother's godmother practiced folk magick in her Italian community and broke curses all the time. Belief and giving into the curse is the worst thing you can do. The more you feel you are cursed, the more the universe responds. No one can curse you unless you let him or her.

Psychic Defenses
All psychic defenses are based in building your own self-esteem, personal power and confidence. Some contain more physical acts, but ultimately it is your will empowering those acts.
To purify a space and prevent unwanted, harmful energy from entering, burn purifying herbs. Frankincense and myrrh are a favorite of both witches and the Catholic Church. Native Americans use sage, cedar and sweetgrass. Southern American cultures burn copal. You can also use lavender or cinnamon. These substances naturally clear a space. Salt absorbs harmful energy. Iron grounds the same energy. Horseshoes were pointed down and hung over doors for this purpose. Iron nails are placed in house frames for the same reason. Potions and oils made of these substances are worn for protection.
(Let’s see….that would be the smudging lesson we’ve just covered)
Magickal symbols of protection can be worn or drawn. Pentacles, crosses, the Star of David and the Eye of Horus are strong protection symbols, and you can usually find jewelry made with these symbols. Wear this jewelry with the intent of protection. A banishing pentagram, a star drawn starting in the lower left corner, dissolves harmful thought forms and removes unwanted spirits. Repeat it as many times as necessary.
(We’ll get to this one very soon)
During meditation, start by visualizing a shield of clear crystal around your entire body, about three feet away. State "This protection shield protects me from all harm and reflects love back on the source of the harm." Never send energy back to do harm; it will again return to trouble you. Even if one attacks you first, you are not justified to curse back. By sending love, you neutralize the harm. Wishing good things on your enemies can be the key to defeating them. They will be so happy with what they have that they stop bothering you. Bless your harm away, and more blessings will return to you. Similar protection shield visualizations can be used around your home, car, loved ones and pets.
(Hmmm…this would be the Grounding, centering and shielding lessons we’ve been doing all along…see--told you all this built on each lesson, so far)
Sometimes binding spells are necessary. Write the name of the person meaning you harm on a piece of paper. Put it in a bottle, bound with black thread. Fill the bottle with sea salt, protection herbs, iron filings and things like John the Conqueror root. Seal the bottle and ask that this person harm you no longer. As long as you do not open it, the binding will last. You can put the bottle in your freezer or bury it in the backyard.
As a last resort, call upon your guardian spirits. Call on your guardian angel, your spirit guides or the Goddess and God. A student of mine protected himself by asking for help from Mother Earth and drawing Her energy up and directing it to the malevolent spirit. Be creative when protecting.
As you claim your power and grow in your magickal abilities, you will move in harmony with the universe and attract less attention from such darker entities. Others wishing you harm will effortlessly roll off you because you know your place in the cosmic dance of life. Nothing can make you skip a beat of your dance.
This is from sacred-texts, an article by Zhahai Stewart:


What to do if you think you are being attacked.

1 - Question if it is really either imagination, or coming from within yourself. Something may be trying to get your attention, but it may not be external, and by focusing on an external "enemy" you may be missing the point.

2 - Check to see if you are yourself inadvertently sending something out; maybe someone is just reflecting some energy back! Nothing is gained if you get into adversarial mode in that case. Many people have been taught that reflecting is the proper response.

3 - Put up a grounding shield. Ground it out, send it to the Mother who can recycle the energy. Grounding is usually taught to every student. If you don't feel you can be a "conduit" safely, ground it by reflecting it downward to the Earth; that is a big target and easy to hit. By grounding it out, you are protecting yourself, yet not being caught up in it.

What not to do.

1 - Figure out who is sending it and counter attack. You might be wrong, and may be starting a feud. You might be right, but they may not realize that they are "sending" so you may start a feud or cause unnecessary harm. Even if you are right, you are escalating a feud, of which we have too many.
This is commonly discussed as a bad idea.

2 - Put up a reflective shield which will return the energy to the sender.This is commonly discussed as a good idea, but we disagree. We think this is unwise. For one thing, it is not necessary; if you can make an accurate return reflection, you can certainly reflect it to Earth instead (where it can be recycled). There is no reason you should not be able to ground out more energy than you can accurately reflect to the sender, if viewed properly.

For another, your accuracy in returning it may be less than perfect. You might hit close but not close enough; if you can't reflect it to earth, you are going to have trouble reflecting it to an unknown person.

Sometimes this is discussed as if once you return it, the sender will just stop; because they will awaken to what they are doing, or because the returning energy will be too much to handle. The thing which is seldom mentioned is that if the sender (assuming there is one) was consciously attacking, they will likely already be prepared with their own mirrors, etc.
Great, if we put near perfect mirrors at each end and pump in energy, maybe we can get a psychic laser effect; guess who is just on the other side of the mirrors to catch the intensified leak thru?

If they weren't aware of sending, they will probably just assume they are being attacked and take countermeasures. If they follow the 3 steps above, fine, nothing is damaged. But many of them will immediately think they have to put up a defensive mirror, or maybe worse (see below; they may decide to teach you a lesson for attacking them). Few people naturally respond to perceived attacks positively (especially if they are in such a bad mood already as to be sending without even realizing it).

Another serious concern is getting drawn into a unacknowledged feud by your own weaknesses. It is often agreed that one should reflect back exactly what is received, without adding anything of one's own. But the same people who advocate that may use terms implying "returning it with enthusiasm". There appears to be an easily tapped source of self-righteousness in most people feeling attacked, and it is _very hard_ not to get drawn into imagining, at some level, the satisfying effects of the energy going back to the attacker; that draws one into a "counter-attack" even without realizing it. Grounding it does not.

Watch for yourself when people are discussing "returning to sender"; see if there isn't very often a hidden desire for revenge or retribution lurking there grasping for their "control panel" - and deflecting their normal attempts at staying centered by claiming to do no more than is "justified". Justified is not the question; self knowledge and balance are.

There is another thread which shows up often in discussions like these; the need to "teach the sender a lesson". In some cases, I have even heard thi justified as "protecting the community". This way lies many pitfalls. Did the goddess give you an "agent of threefold return" marshal’s badge, that exempts you from any consequences "because you are just an agent"? That hubris is gonna teach some hard lessons, but the self appointed marshall may be the major recipient. It would be a little bit healthier to just shed the self-righteousness and call it an ego driven feud. "Teaching them a lesson" gets filed under the pitfalls of righteousness, the ways that one's own weaknesses seduce one.

Also consider, what if despite your initial impression, the negative energy is really coming from inside, from part of you? Are you going to be better off "reflecting it back" (maybe with additional conscious or unconscious oomph) or grounding it? "Gee, I returned it but good, and now they have stepped it up; the sender really needs a lesson!". That may be more true than you know, bucko.

Notice that nowhere do we say that one has no "right" to put up a reflective shield; of course one does, and is fully justified. Also, possibly, unwise. There is a distinction between what one has a "right" to do in "self defense", and what is wise to get drawn into. Reflecting it is neither necessary, nor likely to produce positive results, but if _that itself_ is the lesson to be learned, what can I say? Each chooses their own path, and that is as it should be. At least if one has considered the above, one should know what they are stepping into.






Sources:
http://whispy.com/psychic-vampires.htm
http://www.llewellynjournal.com/article/513
http://healing.about.com/cs/energyhealing/a/aa_vampires.htm
http://farshores.org/psyvamp.htm
http://www.widdershins.org/vol5iss2/07.htm
http://www.sacred-texts.com/bos/bos127.htm

~Elise~
January 15th, 2006, 11:00 AM
Think about a psychic vampire that is in your life now...how are you going to be able to counter them now?

Is there a situation that you thought was a psychic attack and now you think it isn't? How are you going to change your attitude towards it?

RunningRiot
January 15th, 2006, 12:57 PM
I don't think there are any psychic vampires in my life right now. My family and I are very close and they are the people I'm with more than 80% of my time, none of them drain me and none of them have ever complained that I've drained them before. My best friend isn't a PV, either, and I don't know any strangers that've attacked me recently.

I use to have friends that just take my advice and walk all over me, they'd feel sad but as soon as I came into the picture I'd spend all my time helping them (I'd just feeled extremely compelled to) and then they'd be right as rain, leaving be feeling like rusted metal. I told those "friends" to screw off, even if they were doing it subconciously, being a good friend takes effort and that's the last thing they are putting into the relationship. Once they were gone I still feel a little hit here and there, but I learned how to block it off with the best thing I ever did to those kind of people; ignoring them. Works like a charm!

MariThorn
January 15th, 2006, 03:17 PM
I find this to be a truly enlightening lesson. With the one exception that I don't have any PV's in my circle at the moment. I am much like Lia in that I have removed them from my life. It is good to know what to look for though. The last PV we had was a "friend" who came here to live, and ended up feeding off of the entire family. We have severed our ties with her, and we purified the house. We went as far as to take her name from her in our discussions, and to totally eradicate anything she gave us. I like the cording idea, and will be putting that into my BoS as I think it will be applicable in my path as I move along it.

Marithorn

Meriwen
January 15th, 2006, 09:18 PM
I had a PV who was a long time friend, she ended up totally draining me so after 10 years, in 2004 I cut the cord, there was just no way for the friendship to go on and me to stay sane. I had bought a book about PV and after reading it found the she would drain me as long as I was around her.

Penthesilea
January 15th, 2006, 09:49 PM
There are no PVs in my life at the moment since my mother in law, who is a PV, no question, disowned my husband. Before she did so, however, the woman drained me like a leech whenever I was around her. It was particularly bad when I was pregnant. I was exhausted after every visit. When I finally told my husband how exhausted our visits to her made me, he stopped taking us to see her.

Crystal Raven
January 16th, 2006, 09:52 AM
I think I have a PV in my life, and at the moment, in my home...my mother-in-law. All she ever does is whine and complain and gossip and if you attempt to ignore her or re-direct the conversation it just seems to get worse!!! I don't think she is aware of her effect, but its definately there. Everytime she comes and visits I get headaches and by bedtime I am exhausted yet don't sleep well. I have even remarked on how much lighter the house feels once she leaves (we live 300 km away, so her visits are usually 2-3 weeks every 3-4 months).

Since this no longers seems to be a figment of my imagination, I am going to have to take some steps to help myself here. I can't ban her from the house, but I might be able to severe my own cord. I always smudge once she's left, but perhaps I ought to do that a few times while she is here as well, and I love pouches, I usually use 3 herbs and a stone, any recommendations on which may work best?

~Elise~
January 16th, 2006, 07:16 PM
okay--what is the purpose of the pouch... do we want her to feel uncomfortable enough that she'll leave?
To protect you?
give me some details

Elise

LadyCelt
January 16th, 2006, 08:08 PM
http://www.occultforums.com/showthread.php?t=16888


I just posted this a day or two ago for dark magick.

I swear I was attacked before by someone who kept coming into the bar. tehy even started going to another bar I went to. I shielded myself months ago and haven't seen them since. I know it was them though. I felt sick for a couple days after the first time and weak.

Crystal Raven
January 17th, 2006, 09:37 AM
hmmm as I said I can't ban her, but limiting the visits would be good, maybe so there just a week. Personally I need to not be affected by her "noise" and not have headaches and be exhausted, so yes protection would be good.

slave_isabel
January 18th, 2006, 06:47 PM
At this point in time I think I have finally gotten rid of the last of the pv that have been in my life. I was not aware til this assignment that there was a name for people who always keep you feeling in so much turmoil and drained.
At this point in time I am still very susceptable to attack and as I am still not really able to defend myself I still stay pretty isolated or only with those close personal friends that I know absolutely are safe people to be around.

~Elise~
January 18th, 2006, 10:09 PM
At this point in time I think I have finally gotten rid of the last of the pv that have been in my life. I was not aware til this assignment that there was a name for people who always keep you feeling in so much turmoil and drained.
At this point in time I am still very susceptable to attack and as I am still not really able to defend myself I still stay pretty isolated or only with those close personal friends that I know absolutely are safe people to be around.

Have you been doing your daily grounding and shielding? By now... it should be working better than that for you.

Elise

PoisonIvy
January 19th, 2006, 09:12 AM
My 5 year old niece is the only psy vamp in my life at the moment. She use to totally drain me everytime I was around her.
I wasn't sure what was happening to me at first and then I realized that I only felt that way when I was near her. When I called her on it,she just grinned real big and said "Don't worry about me cause I'm fine!" That little heiffer knows what she's doing!

Now when I know that she's gonna be around I take a nice relaxing ritual bath,center and ground myself with some meditations,burn some dragonsblood (for protection), wear hematite, and with my fingers interlocked I tell her as soon as I see her "You aren't getting anything from me today,go steal someone else's energy!" Believe it or not,after I say that she doesn't even bother with me. She just smiles an evil grin and walks away.

When she leaves I still smudge the place to get rid of any excess energy the little vamp has left behind,if there is any left that is.

Hærfest Leah
January 19th, 2006, 02:21 PM
Think about a psychic vampire that is in your life now...how are you going to be able to counter them now?

Is there a situation that you thought was a psychic attack and now you think it isn't? How are you going to change your attitude towards it?


I know an old HS friend of mine was one but there's no way she knew. She's too dumb, way needy, couldn't think for herself and always whining. I got so sick of trying to help her and her not listening, of listening to all her problems all the time & of feeling like I lost a few brain cells after talking to her. Even thru long distance phone conversations after I left home. So when I had Loralie in Feb 2003 I talked to my old friend for the last time and just never called her back, we moved and I never informed her of any forwarding contact info. It was sad to have to do that but I feel better since and maybe I made her mad enough to get off her ass and do something with her self.

Now tho, the only vamp I can think of may be my mother n law. Not sure about it & her actually draining me but I know she now directs a large amount of neg energy my way (long distance) since we stopped getting along and so I just shield from it now and put her out of mind. I don't know if she knows this craft or is completely unaware of her doings. If she does know what shes doing she's never told anyone. Shes a very negative & controlling person.

LadyCelt
January 19th, 2006, 03:45 PM
Is someone who is a friend but may not even know it but uses them or manipulates people like that? maybe they are more a mesmeriser, the type who uses their looks, charisma, and/or popularity? I don't have that now, but wondering cause there are peoel liek that.


I am sure my dad doesn't know he can be at times, but it feels he is. Last night, after I said he was reminding me of my abusive ex afte rhe litearlly pushed me out of the way, he said "don't blame me, its not my falut. you're the one who chose the a** hole." When he gets mad at me, he'll bring that person up and pretty much BLAME me. I told him those peopel chose their victims, no way would a person choose to be a abused.

slave_isabel
January 20th, 2006, 02:41 AM
grounding has become a fairly easy thing to accomplish 99% of the time and on most days the shielding works great. On the days I have severe anxiety or panic attacks I have a hard time shielding. I dont know whether it is the extreme stress of the attack that blocks the shield or not. I know that all thoughts go right out the window when the panic and anxiety that strong hits.Most times I dont even know what triggers the attack until later.

~Elise~
January 23rd, 2006, 08:00 AM
Is someone who is a friend but may not even know it but uses them or manipulates people like that? maybe they are more a mesmeriser, the type who uses their looks, charisma, and/or popularity? I don't have that now, but wondering cause there are peoel liek that.


I am sure my dad doesn't know he can be at times, but it feels he is. Last night, after I said he was reminding me of my abusive ex afte rhe litearlly pushed me out of the way, he said "don't blame me, its not my falut. you're the one who chose the a** hole." When he gets mad at me, he'll bring that person up and pretty much BLAME me. I told him those peopel chose their victims, no way would a person choose to be a abused.

Yes...someone can be a PV and not know it.

As for not choosing to be abused--that isn't totally correct. Some people choose what they know. If they were beat down mentally and otherwise growing up, they may end up choosing a mate who will do the same thing. They think they deserve it and don't really know different.

Elise

~Elise~
January 23rd, 2006, 08:02 AM
grounding has become a fairly easy thing to accomplish 99% of the time and on most days the shielding works great. On the days I have severe anxiety or panic attacks I have a hard time shielding. I dont know whether it is the extreme stress of the attack that blocks the shield or not. I know that all thoughts go right out the window when the panic and anxiety that strong hits.Most times I dont even know what triggers the attack until later.

Okay--when the panic and anxiety hits is when the grounding needs to kick in automatically, then the shielding. That is why I advocate DAILY practice until it is a true habit. An instinct, if you will.

Elise

~Elise~
January 23rd, 2006, 08:02 AM
Lesson 7 is up

RunningRiot
January 23rd, 2006, 06:58 PM
Yes...someone can be a PV and not know it.

As for not choosing to be abused--that isn't totally correct. Some people choose what they know. If they were beat down mentally and otherwise growing up, they may end up choosing a mate who will do the same thing. They think they deserve it and don't really know different.

Elise

This is so true. I'm the baby of my pack and I always look for friends and a mate who's stronger than me, so I can depend on them, undeniably setting myself up for being abandoned and used.

The lessons of this class have taught me to be more trust of just myself, and to stop looking at others for protection.

Salanthos
January 24th, 2006, 07:47 PM
hmm, I'm not sure if I have any PVs in my life. my one friend and her family seem to fit the profile (ie, needing lots of help, encouragement, and positive input), but I've never noticed much more energy loss than with anyone else, so I'm not sure. this might be because even before this class I tried a form of sheilding, or it might be because everyone in my life's PV, which seems unlikely.:whatgives

anyway, since I learned the right way of sheilding here, I seem to feel drained much less overall, perhaps I 'leak' less energy.

AineDanu
January 26th, 2006, 11:38 PM
I had not realized that certain people were psychic vampires in my life. There are a few and I cannot cut off total contact with them. I will have to be sure that I shield very well before going near them or talking to them on the phone and I will practice the cording exercise quite regularly.

Regarding the psychic attacks, after reading this lesson I understand how I have gotten as far down as I have health wise and otherwise. I lived in a state of constant attack for more than four years. While living in a house with several PV. Luckily those people are out of my life but I do have contact with them over the phone once in a while. I guess it will come back to the same as above - continue shielding, grounding, centering, and cording exercises on a regular basis. As much as possible avoid dealing with all of the people causing these issues.

~Elise~
January 27th, 2006, 07:39 AM
It is amazing what has been around us and we didn't realize it. Knowledge is power and now you're armed and will be able to handle them better in the future.

Elise

amakaliani
February 1st, 2006, 02:29 PM
OK - here is the deal my apprentice is a PV, however, I feel that he falls into the category that takes bad energy away as I have been the benefitor of that, as well as watching him work on animals and humans. Other than that, there is only one other one, and that is his wife. She and I have come to the agreement that she doesn't takem from me anything other than the negative emotions that I might shoot out.