View Full Version : How Did Troy Really Fall?
Meabh23
March 7th, 2006, 04:33 PM
We are lead to believe that Homer's account of the destruction of Troy is the most accurate. But Homer was a poet and we all know poets are into drugs. So let's leave that aside and delve into the matter.
Cain
March 7th, 2006, 06:25 PM
Excavations indicate it was destroyed several times. Its possible that the "Trojan war" event was an earthquake. That would explain the wooden horse, as a tribute to Poseidon, god of Earthquakes.
omar
March 22nd, 2006, 07:26 PM
Troy did not fall, I pushed him. haha. He slipped on poo from that trojan horse?
Akhkharu Asgard
March 26th, 2006, 02:31 AM
We are lead to believe that Homer's account of the destruction of Troy is the most accurate. But Homer was a poet and we all know poets are into drugs. So let's leave that aside and delve into the matter.
1.) I'm taking poetry classes and have never used nor will use drugs. Well, except my prescription meds. I guess that does make me into drugs. NEver mind!
2.) We don't really know if there really was a Homer either.
3.) I agree with Cain in Troy falling numerous times. I'm not sure about Earthquakes (but won't rule it out), just on the diplomacy (or lack of any serious diplomacy) during that time period among many peoples, it's not really a suprise that it would have been sacked more than once. But yeah, sucks for Troy. I think it fell because Orlando Bloom is a whiny little pansy.
_Banbha_
March 26th, 2006, 06:04 PM
My understanding of the archeaological record is that there were many citidels on layers of the Troy site, a hub of the Black Sea trade from way back. There was evidence of siege in some layers, with a big one circa 6th century BCE, approx. time of the Illiad. Orlando Bloom played the wussiest Paris ever. Pitt played an Achilles I did not recognize. Give me Hector (or Eric Banner but... I prefer Hector).
Philosophia
March 26th, 2006, 06:47 PM
Archaeological Troy
The layers of ruins on the site are numbered Troy I – Troy IX, with various subdivisions:
Troy I 3000-2600 (Western Anatolian EB 1)
Troy II 2600-2250 (Western Anatolian EB 2)
Troy III 2250-2100 (Western Anatolian EB 3 [early])
Troy IV 2100-1950 (Western Anatolian EB 3 [middle])
Troy V: 20th – 18th centuries BC (Western Anatolian EB 3 [late]).
Troy VI: 17th – 15th centuries BC.
Troy VIh: late Bronze Age, 14th century BC
Troy VIIa: ca. 1300 – 1190 BC, most likely candidate for Homeric Troy.
Troy VIIb1: 12th century BC
Troy VIIb2: 11th century BC
Troy VIIb3: until ca. 950 BC
Troy VIII: around 700 BC
Troy IX: Hellenistic Ilium, 1st century BC
Troy I–V
The first city was founded in the 3rd millennium BC. During the Bronze Age, the site seems to have been a flourishing mercantile city, since its location allowed for complete control of the Dardanelles, through which every merchant ship from the Aegean Sea heading for the Black Sea had to pass.
Troy VI
Troy VI was destroyed around 1300 BC, probably by an earthquake. Only a single arrowhead was found in this layer, and no bodily remains.
Troy VII
The archaeological layer known as Troy VIIa, which has been dated on the basis of pottery styles to the mid- to late-13th century BC, is the most often-cited candidate for the Troy of Homer. It appears to have been destroyed by a war, and there are traces of a fire. Until the 1988 excavations, the problem was that Troy VII seemed to be a hill-top fort, and not a city of the size described by Homer, but later identification of parts of the city ramparts suggests a city of considerable size.
Partial human remains were found in houses and in the streets, and near the north-western ramparts a human skeleton with skull injuries and a broken jawbone. Three bronze arrowheads were found, two in the fort and one in the city. However, only small portions of the city have been excavated, and the finds are too scarce to clearly favour destruction by war over a natural disaster.
Troy VIIb1 (ca. 1120 BC) and Troy VIIb2 (ca. 1020 BC) appear to have been destroyed by fires.
Troy IX
The last city on this site, Hellenistic Ilium, was founded by Romans during the reign of the emperor Augustus and was an important trading city until the establishment of Constantinople in the fourth century as the eastern capital of the Roman Empire. In Byzantine times the city declined gradually, and eventually disappeared.
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy
Not the most "accurate of sites" but, at least, its a starting point.
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