Runes - Questions

[Flar's Freyja]

I started my rune class last night. The person teaching it (Mike) is very seriously into Asatru and is looked upon almost like a god in the pagan community. We've already received several very long e-mails giving detailed information about the gods and goddesses.

Last night, Mike brought a huge selection of books on runes that he recommended - or not - for study. One of the criticisms that he had for Lisa Peschel's book was that she instructs to cast a protective circle before doing rune work. He says that this is not necessary and implied that it is an insult to the gods.

Any thoughts?

I really enjoyed the class. 12 people had said that they were going to be there and only 7 showed up. The energy in the group was positive and powerful. Two hours went by in about ten minutes. We will be meeting every other week and will work together for about a year.

[Rick]

Hmm... well, I can't truly say I always cast a circle when I do a Rune working... but I always recommend to others that it be done, especially 'beginners'...

As for it being an insult to the Gods... well, all I know is that they grant my workings... I think I probably know who Mike is (from Tulsa, right?)... really good guy, & really knowledgable on Rune Lore & Tradition; pay attention in this class, & you'll learn a lot from him. But I think you're already learning to separate Rune Lore from Asatru politics (that subject could fill a whole other forum, one I'm personally thankful we don't have here!), else you'd not have brought the question here. In Asatru, as in all religions, there are those that lean to one extreme or the other... that's the main reason I no longer have any 'formal' dealings with the Asatru community... whether Folkish or Universalist, most of them I know are too radical for my taste, & I'm too Moderate for theirs...

You know, of course, I am the High Emperial Grand Dragon of the Great Moderate Conspiracy in America... :rotfl:

[Flar's Freyja]

**Bows down in homage and respect**

Sounds like I'm going to have lots of questions, then. Yes, Mike considers Odhinn to be a drinking buddy.

Which brings up another question - actually it's more in relation to the gods - I read somewhere that those dedicated to Odhinn tend to die violently as Odhinn does not hesitate to sacrifice his own. Which makes me very concerned about one of my friends. Know anything about that?

Yesterday the coolest thing happened - my associate and I were driving around doing field work and I was gazing out the window. We were driving past a very wealthy neighborhood in Tulsa, and I happened to notice that the design on the addition walls had a design carved along the top. The design was definitely Dagaz. Another Big Bang, maybe?

[Rick]

Originally posted by Freyja
**Bows down in homage and respect**
Hehehe... I love you already... Are you married? Can you cook? :T

Sounds like I'm going to have lots of questions, then. Yes, Mike considers Odhinn to be a drinking buddy.
Yup, sounds like the same Mike... not that there's anything wrong with that, except I think Thor would be more fun as a drinkin' buddy... 8O

Which brings up another question - actually it's more in relation to the gods - I read somewhere that those dedicated to Odhinn tend to die violently as Odhinn does not hesitate to sacrifice his own. Which makes me very concerned about one of my friends. Know anything about that?
Well, that's in the Tradition, for sure... I don't know that I can quote you Lore to back it up... however, if your friend is one of Odin's Chosen, he or she is protected by Valkyries... nothing can happen to them 'til their threads of Wyrd are woven to their ends.

Yesterday the coolest thing happened - my associate and I were driving around doing field work and I was gazing out the window. We were driving past a very wealthy neighborhood in Tulsa, and I happened to notice that the design on the addition walls had a design carved along the top. The design was definitely Dagaz. Another Big Bang, maybe?
Yes... as you begin to work with Runes more & more, you'll be amazed where you find them... next time you're in an elevator, look at the 'doors open' & 'doors closed' buttons, & report what you notice back here...

[Flar's Freyja]

Hehehe... I love you already... Are you married? Can you cook?

Nope, free as a bird but probably a little old for you:smooch:
Yes, but need to get back into practice. Nobody here to cook for much anymore. I can still do really great Italian meatballs, lasagne and Tabouli :mmm:


Yup, sounds like the same Mike... not that there's anything wrong with that, except I think Thor would be more fun as a drinkin' buddy..

Sometimes I wonder who I'm getting mixed up with - some of my friends are a bit out of touch with reality :rolleyes:


Well, that's in the Tradition, for sure... I don't know that I can quote you Lore to back it up... however, if your friend is one of Odin's Chosen, he or she is protected by Valkyries... nothing can happen to them 'til their threads of Wyrd are woven to their ends.

I'm relieved to hear that!


Yes... as you begin to work with Runes more & more, you'll be amazed where you find them... next time you're in an elevator, look at the 'doors open' & 'doors closed' buttons, & report what you notice back here...

Thought so. I don't think I'd ever have noticed something like that before! Hmmm, let me think - I know sometimes the up or down buttons might be Tyr......next time we go visiting prospective referral sources I'll take a closer look!

[Rick]

Originally posted by Freyja

Nope, free as a bird but probably a little old for you :smooch:
I peeked at your profile... you may address me as 'Elder'... :rotfl:

[Flar's Freyja]

Oh, really? And where is your birthday, O Grizzled One? Does that mean facial hair? I swoon for facial hair ;)

[FONT=courier new][COLOR=purple]Actually, I should have asked you if YOU can cook - I'm a busy struggling professional woman working two jobs!

And - can you CLEAN? I prefer to do the yard work myself, it's so pagan:)

[Flar's Freyja]

Dang, the font & color thing didn't work again!:(

[Rick]

Originally posted by Freyja
Oh, really? And where is your birthday, O Grizzled One? Does that mean facial hair? I swoon for facial hair ;)
I actually look pretty much like my avatar (& personal Hero, Hagar the Horrible)... except my hair isn't red...

Actually, I should have asked you if YOU can cook - I'm a busy struggling professional woman working two jobs!
YES I CAN!!!

And - can you CLEAN? I prefer to do the yard work myself, it's so pagan:)
Alas, I am a Slob... :T

[Flar's Freyja]

I actually look pretty much like my avatar (& personal Hero, Hagar the Horrible)... except my hair isn't red...

Mine Is :)


YES I CAN!!!

Good! :D


Alas, I am a Slob

Unfortunately, so am I these days. Alas, it might not work.... :(

[Rick]

The Norns are cruel... 8O

[Flar's Freyja]

:wah:

[Silver Venus]

You two!! Opps, sorry have I stumbled across a private thread? lol ;) :D :boing:
Its so exciting when theres new love in the air, and in so many pretty colours!
;) :D :boing:
I think you make the best couple may frey and freya bless you with years of love, happiness, cooking and cleaning up after each other! :eek:

As to answer your q's ~ I agree with Rick the high, grand.. hat guy! ~ cast a circle before you do any working I have always thought that it actually acknowledges the gods and the energies around you. & why would a god punish you with a really ouch! painful death for following him? Surely not any of them?

:sunny:

[Flar's Freyja]

:eek:

We've been caught! Quick, what do we do? 8O

[Silver Venus]

Dont worry I wont tell anyone :)

[Lavender]

Tell what?

[Flar's Freyja]

:woah: Uh-oh!:woah:





RICK! WHERE ARE YOU? HELP! :eek:

[Rick]

Originally posted by Freyja
:woah: Uh-oh!:woah:
RICK! WHERE ARE YOU? HELP! :eek:
Quick! You can hide out at my place... it's only 'bout 120 miles away... take the turnpike... only $7 roundtrip... :T

[Flar's Freyja]

:boing:168! to be exact! Okay, I'm leaving in about 30 minutes......Look for a little redhead in a little red car - with a WISE WOMEN STILL KNOW HER bumper sticker and a little broom hanging from the rearview - meet me at that big Love's off I-35 :wave:- you'll have to drive after that - I always get in trouble with y'all's up and down speed limits......Do ya think they'll take these rolls of pennies at the toll gate?;)

:heartthro Finally - we have our chance! Can we transcend our tantric consciousness by doing runic yoga together? I'll let you use my mat so you won't hurt yourself when you roll out of control! :hearteyes

[Myst]

Hey...

Rick is mine!

[Flar's Freyja]

Hey... Rick is mine!

Uh-uh!:razz:

[Rick]

Originally posted by Freyja
::heartthro Finally - we have our chance! Can we transcend our tantric consciousness by doing runic yoga together? I'll let you use my mat so you won't hurt yourself when you roll out of control! :hearteyes
Well, if you're gonna throw a tantrum, I don't know... & who's this Mat fella, anyway?

[Flar's Freyja]

Oooh, I'm sorry, baby - I'll be good, I promise!:smooch: There's nobody else!

Are you gonna spank me? :heartthro

[Rick]

Is it just me, or is it warm in here?... :flamer:

Um, I have mixed feelings about corporal punishment... especially when you're promising to behave so nicely... :cool:

[Flar's Freyja]

:flamer: Mmmm, I think there's a lil fire element creeping in...

I can be a VERY good girl :cutie:

[Silver Venus]

Now Im going to spank some behinds! :devil:

Even though I am enjoying reading all your flirting... :ahhhh: :eyebrow: :bubbles:

I hate to break up the fun but we all may get told off if I dont warn you.. .. so as much as I hate to stop you both I'm going to have to put out that fire for now and send you off to pm world! ;)

[mol]

*sweat*

This is not your typical Rune Q&A thread for sure... :p

[mol]

Originally posted by Silver Venus
Now Im going to spank some behinds! :devil: )

Do you think that will really help the situation here!? :)

[Silver Venus]

Well I was trying to help... sorry mol I couldnt resist with that gag..
I thought a friendly warning would be enough.. lets hope so!

Right back to Runes! ~ if you could choose your favourite one (and only one) which would it be?

[Flar's Freyja]

Oh, Um, I think I'd better let Rick answer first......while I go take a cold shower :flamer:

[Flar's Freyja]

Our second class was Monday night. Our leader said that one cannot truly and effectively work with the runes unless they have studied all of the lore. Thoughts?

[Rick]

Originally posted by Freyja
Our second class was Monday night. Our leader said that one cannot truly and effectively work with the runes unless they have studied all of the lore. Thoughts?
Hmm... that's a tough one... I reckon I'd say that one could be effective without immersing oneself too deeply in the Rune Lore, but to be the most effective... yes, you must study the Lore (he left out Tradition... not exactly the same, but equally important)... the more you understand what Runes are, the better you'll be able to use 'em...

[Flar's Freyja]

Hmm... that's a tough one... I reckon I'd say that one could be effective without immersing oneself too deeply in the Rune Lore, but to be the most effective... yes, you must study the Lore (he left out Tradition... not exactly the same, but equally important)... the more you understand what Runes are, the better you'll be able to use 'em...

Actually, I think he did include tradition, my mistake 8O I agree with what you said. As you know, our leader is "immersed too deeply" ;)

I've finally had a chance to do some reading this week, and there is so very much of it! I'm finding it fascinating.

[Rick]

Good, keep it up...

PS LOVE your avatar...

[Flar's Freyja]

Good, keep it up...

I intend to, thanks.


PS LOVE your avatar...

What are you doing looking at my profile again, Mister?;)

[The Mad Vitiki]

Originally posted by Freyja
Our second class was Monday night. Our leader said that one cannot truly and effectively work with the runes unless they have studied all of the lore. Thoughts?

it helps to know the lore becase the in the lore you will get a deeper undersating of the runes it is a must for all who want to master them. years ago before thorinson and aswynn that was the only way to you could learn the runes

[The Mad Vitiki]

Originally posted by Rick

Hmm... that's a tough one... I reckon I'd say that one could be effective without immersing oneself too deeply in the Rune Lore, but to be the most effective... yes, you must study the Lore (he left out Tradition... not exactly the same, but equally important)... the more you understand what Runes are, the better you'll be able to use 'em...

when you began to learn runes its like batheing in a spring the more you know the deeper the sping gets befor long you its like swiming in the ocean and you become one with it then you have 50,000 yrs of knowlge to pull from and you will have a sprit runemaster as you guid or techer

[Flar's Freyja]

when you began to learn runes its like batheing in a spring the more you know the deeper the sping gets befor long you its like swiming in the ocean and you become one with it then you have 50,000 yrs of knowlge to pull from and you will have a sprit runemaster as you guid or techer

That is a really beautiful way to put it.

[Rick]

Originally posted by Freyja

What are you doing looking at my profile again, Mister?;)
Um... it pops up on your post... hard to miss... :T

[Flar's Freyja]

Um... it pops up on your post... hard to miss...

Huh? I don't see it, or yours either? Something else I have to fix?

[Rick]

Yeah, you gotta 'turn' that option on in your profile/edit options...

[Flar's Freyja]

Yeah, you gotta 'turn' that option on in your profile/edit options...

Ha! There you are, and Mad Vitiki too! Thank you, you are a kind man after all........:)

[Rick]

Aw, gawrsh... :bigredgri <digs toe in dirt> ...it tweren't nuthin', may-um... :cool:

[Flar's Freyja]

I think the Lore is having its desired effect -

I went to New Moon ritual/meditation last night and my entire journey was through only one eye..........

[Rick]

I am envious...

[Flar's Freyja]

I am envious...

Don't eat your heart out too much - it was the wrong eye.....

Now if someone could help me figure out what the six stones I found mean - five on one level, one on the next......

[The Mad Vitiki]

Originally posted by Freyja


Ha! There you are, and Mad Vitiki too! Thank you, you are a kind man after all........:)

oh no you found me i guss I will have to hide better
rikHHAAHAHAHAH a HAHAHAHA kind HAHAHAHAHAHa man
LOL