Yet another chart request, if anyone is willing..

[Veira]

Greetings.. If anyone has the time, a chart would be greatly appreciated. I read one in the past, but it was years ago and I've lost it since then. And the ones here that I've read so far seem very interesting, and so here I am asking for one as well. No rush. :)

Birthday:
February 16th, 1989
11:13 am
Fort Worth, Texas (USA)

I've been fascinated with space/astrology for as long as I can remember but sadly I don't know much aside from my sun sign and my ascendant, and I've no money for the more in-depth ones online.

Anyway, I'll stop babbling now.

[KEishin]

Looking at your chart, your Sun is in Aquarius your Moon is in Cancer and you have Taurus rising. The Moon naturally rules Cancer, so when placed here it becomes extremely powerful in a chart. This is because the Sun is never very strong in Aquarius to begin with and your Moon is especially potent in Cancer. You are *far* more emotional than the average Aquarian and definitely not detached from your feelings. In fact everyone always knows where you stand and how you feel, with the Moon in the 3rd house (communications). What you say is always affected by your emotional state. So your emotional and financial affairs are related. You have a real love for the good things in life and tend to vacillate between frugality and extravagance. No matter the application, it results from a low sense of self-worth, which you equate with money and possessions. (As the song goes, “money can’t buy you love.”) Financial problems usually are a mask for the real issue here.

You are friends with all types of people and enjoy the mental stimulation of friendships and group environments. The planet Venus rules your rising sign of Taurus and thus you project an air of stability (even if you don’t always feel it) and come across as very dependable and trustworthy, which are other reasons people may tend to unload their troubles on you. However, you usually got the short end of the stick in your family. As a result, deep down, you may feel that you don't deserve to be nurtured, so you refuse to let others help you, even if you have seven venereal diseases and are addicted to drugs, alcohol or other activities. That's an extreme example, but the underlying pain of feeling unloved is what drives self-destructive ways. Add in Mars with hard aspects to both Venus and Pluto, and you can get very disturbed by attempts at analysis of your emotions. If provoked, the mother all temper tantrums comes out. And once the storm has passed, you won’t easily forgive either. Frequent periods of quite and solitude are necessary in order to recharge and recover. Make sure you have friends who respect your personal space. May I suggest you don't befriend the neighborhood tabloid reporter?

You have two other dignified planets (that’s what it’s called when the planet is placed in the sign it rules) - Pluto in Scorpio and Saturn in Capricorn. You may have difficulty letting go and being imaginative. Your no-nonsense, practical approach makes subjects like dreams and imaginative stuff hard to accept. But with Uranus and Neptune both in the 8th house it is probable that you will experience psychic states, vivid dreams to rock your boat on a regular basis. The 8th house also rules such things as other people’s money so you may gain in an unusual manner through others and possibly through your partner. You are likely to have a number of love affairs before considering marriage. You seek marriage with someone who will bestow status and/or wealth. With a trine to Juno, you want an independent, very bright or slight odd partner. If they are too mainstream you'll dump them by the wayside. Uranus-ruled people are fanatic about having their own space; add in Vesta in the 7th house and that need is even more imperative. When you are married or living with someone (not just a roommate) you must have your own space and cannot be around them 24/7. Take a break, even if just for an hour. When you do chose a partner you want one who is able to satisfy your need for intellectual stimulation, companionship and variety. But this love of freedom could cause some conflicts, especially if your partner doesn't like being with someone who is smart (that's a very stupid bias) and tries to limit your creativity and knowledge. There may also be problems in relating to others (especially males). You need to learn how to be true to yourself while valuing others. Trust is a large issue for you to get over. Struggles for control and spurts of jealousy and frustration aren't uncommon.

With such a populated 10th house, you need public recognition and often gain responsibility from an early age. You may have been a precocious in this area, taking responsibility sooner than other children your age. You are likely to rise to a position of power and authority - but not without a lot of hard work and frustration on the way. This is when your natural inclination to keep things close to the chest comes back and bites you in the behind. You lose a lot of your control and success because of the secrets you keep within. Avoid sneaky and devious activities as someone will find out and it will not go well for you. But Jupiter in the first house makes you a force to be reckoned with in your career.

[Veira]

:)

Thank you for taking the time to do this, Keishin. I appreciate it.

Interesting indeed.. I never expected that I'd have any practical qualities whatsoever.. Especially in regards to career/money.

Ah.. what are the charts called that relate to travel? Or something of that nature? That's something I've been meaning to look into.

[KEishin]

Thank you for taking the time to do this, Keishin. I appreciate it.
You're welcome :)


Interesting indeed.. I never expected that I'd have any practical qualities whatsoever.. Especially in regards to career/money.
Saturn in one's chart is all about responsibility, and yours is very well placed . . . except for the opposition to the Moon. You do have good practical skills, with lots of things, even money, but when you're emotions get involved, as they do with everything all that practicality flies right out the window. Your challenege is to learn how to think clearly and not worry so much, without losing touch with your emotions.


Ah.. what are the charts called that relate to travel? Or something of that nature? That's something I've been meaning to look into.
I believe you are referring to astrocartography, where you look at the most fortunate places for you to live.

[RedRose]

Hi Veira,

You have two mystic triangles and each of them has a YOD within it! That is WAY witchy! YODs are a bit like directives from on high, "Thou Shalt do this thing!" The mystic triangles give you amazing mystical gifts and the YODs point to how to access and use the gifts. One YOD points to Vesta on the cusp of the 8th House, in Sag, powered by Mars and your Moon. A call to the Priestesshood if there ever was one. Are you a Pagan?

The other YOD within the other mystic triangle points to your Taurus Moon in the 3rd, powered by Vesta and your chart ruler Venus. Follow your heart! I mean it. Follow your heart, your Taurus Moon, and trust your Guidance (Saturn conjunct Neptune on the cusp of the 9th house in Scorpio). Make it happen. You have lots of Earth. You are here to get real and lasting things to happen.

With Juno conjunct your South Node, you have done lots of past lives as "the wife" and with Pallas Athena conjunct your North Node, this life you need to be independent and your own boss. With Sun/Athena/NN all conjunct on the cups of yoiur 11th, you are here to help channel in the new paradigm. Pluto opposite Mars makes you way powerful (with a temper, it is true), and Venus, your chart ruler, is in a T square with all that raw power and passion. Open your heart and poor your love into nurturing, yourself and those you adopt. Making a fun and creative "home" grounds and balances you.

You are quirky, ala Aquarius. With Mercury on your Midheaven in Aquarius, you may even get known for being eccentric and smart, and/or for your communication skills.

RedRose

[business voodoo]

i have heard of the mystical rectangle, but never the mystic triangle ... what's the configuration on that?

glad to see the asteroids being intergrated, thank you so much ... i've only started to use those on my personal charts and only use them on readings when prodded to do so. my daughter has juno conjunct her ascendent at 11 degrees Sag within 6 MINUTES, and the composite chart of me and my husband has an EXACT juno/Ascendent conjunction at 14 degrees Virgo (well, less than 1 minute difference) ... i still don't quite know how to read that, but it freaked me out the first time i saw that ... heck, it still freaks me out ... i have many conjunctions, but 6 minutes and the other being exact ... that's too darned close!

[RedRose]

Hi Business Voodoo,

Oops, as you say, mystic rectangles, not triangles. I told a client recently that they have a "Grand Fire Square" and woke up in the middle of the night in a tizzy saying, "No, I meant Grand Cardinal Square!" I have been called a "Neptunian" astrologer, and I suspect that being fuzzy brained like this is part of the package.

Regarding the Goddess asteroids: I don't really like the Greek/Roman pantheon much. I experience all the archetypes as "energies" not gods and goddesses. and the main asteroids add depth. And as you can see from your relationship's composite chart, they work - your marriage is fated! You are working the grand plan for sure!

RedRose

[business voodoo]

Oops, as you say, mystic rectangles, not triangles. I have been called a "Neptunian" astrologer, and I suspect that being fuzzy brained like this is part of the package.

... darn ... and i thought i was going to get a light on my white rabbit trail of the trine/sextile pythagorean triangles one can find in a chart! I have found that those with Neptune dominant in the charts, the centaur/asteroid Phollus is extremely helpful in focusing the Neptune energy ... especially if it is undergoing dynamic aspects.



Regarding the Goddess asteroids: I don't really like the Greek/Roman pantheon much. I experience all the archetypes as "energies" not gods and goddesses. and the main asteroids add depth. And as you can see from your relationship's composite chart, they work - your marriage is fated! You are working the grand plan for sure!

i so relate to your position on the greek/roman myths ... espcially that which has been written down and passed forward ... fortunately, one of my early teachers (and i do wish she will finish her book soon) taught me about the mythology from the 'other' side ... e.g., the non-patriarchial side, and how to look at the mythology from the perspective of the feminine that preceded the stories we now know. her ancient studies and revised perspective expertise helped me reconcile what i read about the archetypes and engergies and what i felt abou them. it is true what they say about history ... it is always told from the eyes of the victor.

i don't know about fated, but i know we were brought together to bring my daughter siobahn into this dimension at this time ... she was born on christmas morning at 7:11 a.m. ... and she was born about 500 yards away from where me and my husband first met nearly 8 years earlier ... when she was 'supposed' to be born over 40 miles away from there. ... beyond that, we have a 12 house marriage and that probably says it all.

:cheers:

[KEishin]

my daughter has juno conjunct her ascendent at 11 degrees Sag within 6 MINUTES, and the composite chart of me and my husband has an EXACT juno/Ascendent conjunction at 14 degrees Virgo (well, less than 1 minute difference) ... i still don't quite know how to read that, but it freaked me out the first time i saw that ... heck, it still freaks me out ... i have many conjunctions, but 6 minutes and the other being exact ... that's too darned close!
Betcha your daughter has a reputation for being cute, sweet and inoocent, evne if she's not. Juno on the AC makes people come across as this sort of charming and sweet kind of person who promtes harmony. As far as your composite conjunction on the AC, if from the first house, marriage is easier and there is afeeling of being completed by the other. From the twelfth it's still there but is harder to achieve and it may take a long time before being married.

[business voodoo]

Betcha your daughter has a reputation for being cute, sweet and inoocent, evne if she's not. Juno on the AC makes people come across as this sort of charming and sweet kind of person who promtes harmony. As far as your composite conjunction on the AC, if from the first house, marriage is easier and there is afeeling of being completed by the other. From the twelfth it's still there but is harder to achieve and it may take a long time before being married.

actually, she's cute and sweet through-and-through ... innocent yeah in the mundane, but very much not when it comes to the grittier part of life. harmony is definitely her scene ... she's all about the smile!

and ours, of course its from the 12th ... we lived together for 7 years before we got married ... and we may not really be 'married' yet ... legally yes we are, but we are working on that marriage thing every single day!

thanks for the insight!
:cheers:

[RedRose]

Fascinating business voodoo,

My Phollus (4* Aquarius) is conjunct my Chiron (1* Aquarius) in the 10th. Presently Chiron in the sky is retrograde until Oct. when it will stop and turn around at 4* Aquarius. My Neptune at 28* Libra in the 6th squares my Chiron. So how does Phollus work?

RedRose

[business voodoo]

wow ... with pholus/chiron conjunct ... wow ... the story of those two in particular, is quite amazing. both of these centaurs are the main centaurs that relate both with the gods and with the centaurs ... those that can be intermediaries ... pholus via the way of the host and caretaker of the 'wine' for the tribe; chiron via the way of the wounded healer. if you want to PM me your particulars, i will be happy to look at your chart and let you know what i think about it

zane stein has the most in depth info on pholus i have found on the web ... http://www.zanestein.com/pholus.htm

as well, www.astro.com has some info on pholus as well ... http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_chiron_e.htm

i agree with a bit of both of them, but there's so much more to pholus, especially those with strong neptunian charts.

in my experience ... pholus has been an indicator of spiritual attacks and misleadings by those taking advantage of innocence and trust ... it is like a precursor or warning of false teachers or when there is a good philosophy and they are doing great things with good intention, and then a negative shift happens in the leadership (e.g., the greed factor begins to become the intention behind the operations; or the 'our way' is the only 'right way' ego trip ... the epitome of the 'devil' card in tarot).

the strength of a truly neptunian person is their ability to bring in the higher octave of venus and higher levels of spirituality to the mundane ... because pholus' orbit is pluto, neptune & saturn ... there is a times when pholus is bringing dark and negative into the spiritual realm of neptune and the structure of spirituality (e.g., religion). it is the tool of this incorporation and integration where delusion of neptune's spirituality becomes ritualized religion ... and it happens in all types of faiths, pagan, christianity, muslim, agnositic, the oneness movement ... all of them.

pholus is truly related to the connection and healing of spirituality and religion. where chiron is related to the connection and healing of the 'one' or separateness and 'the one' or connectiveness ... or healing the wounds of separation, so that true individualism can be realized in the wholeness of the universe. having them conjunct, obviously, is quite interesting to me ... i would like to see how they relate to your entire chart.

[Veira]

Thank you, RedRose, that was very enlightening.. I've never heard of mystic triangles, YOD or anything similar (pardon my ignorance)--- what are they exactly?

Anyway, no, I'm not a Pagan. I've dabbled in the past.. And I've always loved researching various religions, particularly the more esoteric sort.. But I've generally just never been able to limit myself to one religion, or one path, and so I guess one could call me Agnostic or something similar. Priestesshood you say.. I've had a call to such things, and a magnetic pull towards the notions of shamanism, gypsy divination, nomadic culture and things of that nature, most definitely. And recently I had a very intense paranormal experience that left me a complete wreck for a while (supposedly Wellbutrin caused these so-called "hallucinations".. But while I saw these things, my hair went completely static, and people saw.. Yet when stopping the medication, I no longer saw things). But I've always been drawn to all things of a mystical nature.

Following my heart does sound reasonable. But being only 17 and living with my mother makes things extremely difficult (predictably). It goes against everything I have ever wanted throughout my entire life, including the aforementioned "callings". To me, following my heart would be walking out the door this instant, and wandering aimlessly, never stopping. But, I digress. And I'm babbling.
Thanks again to all who responded.

[KEishin]

Following my heart does sound reasonable. But being only 17 and living with my mother makes things extremely difficult (predictably). It goes against everything I have ever wanted throughout my entire life, including the aforementioned "callings". To me, following my heart would be walking out the door this instant, and wandering aimlessly, never stopping.
Having been in the same situation, from experience, do your best to stick it out as long as you can. Once you turn 18 you have many more options (such as not being picked up by child services). If you plan to go to college that opens a whole new realm of options, along with a bunch of new problems, but that's part of the fun and learning! I firmly believe that by waiting until I left home to follow my own plans it kept my relationship with my mother from blowing up irrevocably.

[RedRose]

Hi Veira,

No, following your heart is a deeper way. It is tapping into your own bedrock wisdom and acting in such a way that you create the life you were sent here to live. You are not an easy soul, nor an easy daughter, and your parenting this life has probably not been perfect. Take responsibility for your own life and be as mature as you can be, and go for what you most desire. Be kind to anyone who loves you, even if they bug you and/or seem to wish to hold you back and limit you. Stay away from people who put you down and also those who flatter you and glamorize you. Do not give your power away, especially to lovers. Be yourself, nobody else can and you are important and needed.

It takes time to learn how to ride the energy in your scope. Egotism is not going to work (Pluto opposite Mars, with Mars in the 12th).

I will find a past thread on Vesta - stay tuned.

And it is Mystic Rectangles, not triangles like I said.

Here is something from the internet about Mystic Rectangles. You have 2, with YODS in them. So you might want to read the current thread on YODs here too.

FROM:

http://www.spiritweavers.com/articles/article-astro-oct2002.html

Mystic Rectangles are not much discussed among astrologers. They are, well, mystic. Mysterious and portentous and obscure all at once. Only the weirdos talk about such mystic things and then purely in metaphor...well, somewhat in metaphor. After all, it's already Mystic, it says so, right there in the name. Why further muddy the waters?

So here we go: This aspect is a spark of hope for the planet because it speaks to the collective consciousness, the oversoul of humanity. Its elements work towards uplifting our awareness. Any mystic rectangle will do this in a natal chart.

Love, RedRose

[business voodoo]

mystical rectangles ... i would say that, on average, 70% of all the charts i look at have a mystical rectangle or two. here's what i've learned about them, and yes, there is very little written about them, so i go back to my sacred geometry to understand them a bit more ...

first off ... they work similarly to a grand square, but faster; like a grand trine, but more dynamically and with way more flexability. because you are working with a series of sextile and trines, we are dealing with the trinity energy ... the rectangle is created by combining two pythagorean right triangles ... and for this reason, for a truly mysical rectangle to exist, i limit the orb to 2 or 3 (unless highly charged with other aspects such as conjunctions, or other tight aspects).

the rectangle can create a centrifuge of energy ... spiralling in either direction, as needed, by activing the planets around the rectangles by using conscious visualization, planning and patterning.

for instance, if you want to change the direction of your love life ... look to the energies of the rectangle and find the pattern of the cycle for your love life ... find the direction it moves in ... everyone has their own style of love and relationships ... some jump in the deep end and drown in the emotion of it all with someone who can't throw a life preserver; others wade in slowly, not trusting and retreating back to shore when the waves get choppy ... so find the pattern in the planetary energy and then begin to spin the rectangle the opposite direction ... or, sometimes, just start the energy spinning from a different corner of the rectangle.

by spinning, i mean look at the planetary energy surrounding the rectangle ... you will have 4 corners ... as well as planets that may or may not aspect points on the rectangle falling in various places of midpoints of the rectangle. write out the flow of the energy that is optimal given your current life and present day perception ... then consciously pattern a habit using that flow of the energy.

i have found those with strong visualization habits and skills to be the best users of the mystical rectangles.

[RedRose]

Thanks business voodoo! Great stuff.

What do you think of YODs in Mystic Rectangles? In Veira's case, we have a YOD to Mercury conjunct MH and another one to Vesta on the 8th cusp. A public speaker/writer (Mercury conjunct MidHeaven) in wacky Aquarius, Uranus in the 8th (part of that Mystic Rectangle).... Speak more, please.

RedRose