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Laisrean
November 15th, 2006, 08:41 AM
http://www.paranormalreview.co.uk/News/tabid/59/newsid368/59/mid/368/Default.aspx


ISRAEL. It was a clairvoyant using remote viewing techniques who was responsible for leading US commandos to Saddam Hussein’s hiding place in Iraq three years ago.

That’s the claim made by famous spoon-bender Uri Geller in an interview with a Reuters news agency correspondent in Herzliya, Israel, the day after Hussein was sentenced to death by an Iraqi court for crimes against humanity.

Fluoxetine
November 16th, 2006, 05:02 AM
!Kerching! Uri strikes again with his miracle powers. Shame in the mid 90's his spoonbending was capturred by hidden camera and proved that he was faking it.

So why should we believe him now?

ModernKnight
November 16th, 2006, 06:29 AM
It wouldn't surprise me. In Operation STAR-GATE (1972-1995), the CIA performed classified research into remote viewing and other psychic phenomena. I thought I remembered reading that the research was finished, but the CIA was still using psychic spies.

For more info, This site (http://www.remoteviewed.com/remote_viewing_history_military.htm) has a few declassified CIA documents on this program.

Fluoxetine
November 16th, 2006, 07:34 AM
If Star Gate worked, then it would have been more common tool than having Intel and interrogations. But it has thrown up some "strange" concepts and has provided some insight into how Intel can be used. Even though science dismisses the idea of it due to the capabiliity of non measurement, it has been seen that science nevertakes a quantum leap without having a stepping stone in front.

Phoenix Blue
November 16th, 2006, 08:41 AM
The only "remote viewing" involved was by Predator UAVs.

Janus109
November 17th, 2006, 10:02 PM
I agree..anything coming from Uri Gellar is suspect. It's interesting that his career took off as a " psychic "..after, he was debunked on National TV i.e the Johnny Carson show.

bbnflpn
November 18th, 2006, 03:40 AM
i never heard much about uri gellar since i dont really pay attention to things like that but i do remember seeing something on a tv show not long ago about the use of remote viewing in government experiments. it was pretty interesting i cant remember if it was somthing on the history, or discovery channel or on court tv. and i think it was sometime with in the last year.

what makes me upset about this whole thing is that the government weather it be local or national have been known to use psychics for helping to solve crimes, yet people who are occultists who do these things on a regular basis are contiualy looked down on, and with the views on other types of though in this contry are not so good it makes me wonder why they would even use this kind of research to solve crimes. i know it works they know it works yet they admit to useing it. it sounds very hypocritical to me.

Tanemon
November 18th, 2006, 11:41 AM
I can't comment on the Geller opinions or assertions. I can say that I have had a couple of experiences with people who do remote viewing. I made arrangements with two different people who had the ability - one was more advanced in his ability or finesse to control it than the other - to view me (and other things) in my home. We made the arrangements over the Internet.

In one case, a woman was trying to refine her psi abilities, and we tried a couple of experiments. She saw things in my house (such as a whale vertebrae that I keep here... immense bone - and I'm 450 miles from the coast!) that are unusual and very unlikely to be guessed by anyone.

In the other case, about three years later, I was able to tell when the guy was here (or, more accurately, when he was doing the viewing)... just by how I felt at the time. We had made a general arrangement, but not specified an exact time.

Just thought I'd throw this info in, though as I say it probably bears little on what Geller put forward as historical fact.

:sunny: Tanemon

Laisrean
November 18th, 2006, 03:24 PM
I agree with both points, here. Uri Geller may be a fraud when it comes to spoon-bending, but that doesn't mean he is wrong this particular time.

Phoenix Blue
November 18th, 2006, 04:22 PM
It doesn't mean he was right, either. It just means he's taking credit for the hard work of American intelligence agencies.

ValD
November 26th, 2006, 11:53 AM
what makes me upset about this whole thing is that the government weather it be local or national have been known to use psychics for helping to solve crimes, Quote some references for that assertion? And no, not unsupported claims by psychics themselves.
As for remote viewing finding Saddam, it would have been a HUGE boost for Stargate, leading to increased government funding and loads of publicity. And wouldn't it also have found bin Laden by now?