Chart reading, please

[Brightshores]

If anyone has time and wouldn't mind, I would greatly appreciate it if someone could kindly give me a chart reading.

(I'd be happy to trade tarot readings for chart readings if anyone is interested!)

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I don't know if this is possible, but along with the general reading, it might be helpful if you could see if something happened astrologically about 2 or 3 years ago - over the past two or three years my life has turned upside down, and I'm still trying to figure out why it happened and what I can do about it. :)

Thanks very much in advance!
~B

[business voodoo]

bright shores ...

its always helpful when you know when what you are experiencing 'started' ... very perceptive.

presently you are in the middle of your saturn return ... and get ready, because when saturn moves retro again on the 5th, its going to hit you one final time ... to make sure you really learn what you need to before going on in your life. what happened 2-3 years ago which may be connected to that major transit is saturn retrograded over your descendent and mars ... which played and emphasized the inconjunct between mars and neptune.

this passage of this retro on your return should be the 'easiest' ... i say the easiest' because over the past months you've already seen what this transit is about, this pass will be the time rather than just riding the rollercoaster not knowing what's coming around the next corner, you get to ride the rollercoaster with a bit of knowledge about what its going to do. you can brace yourself and not get knocked up so much around the hard turns ... and actually enjoy it. but it is going to require deliberation, discipline and fortitude ... all things saturn likes and rewards.

look to the mars/neptune energies in your life ... both the sun and your north node are in the 9th house so things of the spiritual realm are quite important to you ... you seek and must expand your conscious experience in order to fulfill your purpose. mars and neptune's energy relates quite strongly with those planetary placements ... especially with mars on your descendent. its about truth and walking your talk. if the ascendent is how you appear to the public, the descendent is how you appear at home, to yourself, to those closest to you (sandwiched between the 6th & 7th houses). while i would hate to diminish what you are experiencing to one aspect of life, if your "work" has been affected, i would not be surprised ... it has to do with you and what you are doing on the planet earth ... in a bigger picture kind of view ... you have that 'scorpionic stellium' which is slowly becoming a "saggie stellium" moving through your 10th and now into the 11th house ... it is expanding your worldview of your life.

december will be an interesting month for you ... from now until december 5, try moving forward with every idea you want to pursue ... see what is going to "stick" to the wall. when saturn goes retrograde on the 5th, expect the wall to come flying up into your face with everything you've thrown at it in the past two weeks ... look at that wall, see who calls you back, look and see what has staying power for your direction ... it may be one thing, nice focus ... it may be three or four things to consider ... great time to contemplate and 'root' those projects out during the next saturn retrograde. rest assured that this time is significant to your building the rest of your life from ... the mars/neptune inconjunct is the key to what the universe is truly trying to teach you right now ... to bring those energies into your consciousness so that you can use them both together ... right now, those energies are two individuals in a city like new york ... one lives in brooklyn, one in manhattan ... so, call a meeting and bring those energies consciously together so they can work for you during this time.

obviously, this energy could be playing out in a variety of realities in your life, but with the houses at work, those seem to be the focus on the present transits from the chart that's attached ....

i trust that this will help you understand what's presently happening on some level ...

[Brightshores]

Wow... :fpraise:

Thank you so much for this.

Thanks for explaining about the Saturn return - I had read a bit about this in other threads and on other websites and I was wondering if this is part of what I've been experiencing over the past few years. Everything you said makes a lot of sense - and thanks for the "heads-up" about the 5th of December. Hopefully I will be prepared for it and I can start sorting things out fairly soon thereafter.. it's been a long couple of years! I think one of the things I've been doing is that I spent the first 25 or so years of my life "playing by the rules".. doing everything I was supposed to do, and it really hasn't worked out.. maybe Saturn is telling me that I have to find my own path, rather than doing things the normal, expected way.


look to the mars/neptune energies in your life ... both the sun and your north node are in the 9th house so things of the spiritual realm are quite important to you ... you seek and must expand your conscious experience in order to fulfill your purpose. mars and neptune's energy relates quite strongly with those planetary placements ... especially with mars on your descendent. its about truth and walking your talk. if the ascendent is how you appear to the public, the descendent is how you appear at home, to yourself, to those closest to you (sandwiched between the 6th & 7th houses). while i would hate to diminish what you are experiencing to one aspect of life, if your "work" has been affected, i would not be surprised ... it has to do with you and what you are doing on the planet earth ... in a bigger picture kind of view ... you have that 'scorpionic stellium' which is slowly becoming a "saggie stellium" moving through your 10th and now into the 11th house ... it is expanding your worldview of your life.

This part is scarily accurate.. spirituality is incredibly important to me, and I'm very concerned about the "bigger picture" rather than the minutia of life. To be perfectly honest, your comments about my work are completely dead-on.. I've been trying to find steady work for over two years now, and despite my qualifications, I feel like I've been trying to row a boat upstream without any oars.

I do have a few questions, though, if it's OK.. (Please bear with me, I have only a rudimentary understanding of astrology, though I would love to learn more.)
-On the chart, it says that my birth time is 3:13 PM - does that have to do with a time-zone or daylight savings thing? (It was at 5:13 local time)
-Could you explain a bit more about the Mars-Neptune inconjunct? What are Mars and Neptune energies and how can I manifest them?
-Is it significant that all the planets and things seem to be crowded on the top half of my chart?

I think I'll be looking at this reading and thinking it over for a long time... thank you so much for your help. :hahugh:

[business voodoo]

well ... that time thing is an oops (that's what i get for getting up so darn early this morning and doing a chart without any coffee!) ... the CORRECT chart is attached ...

and while the relationship aspects are the same and much of the information i have you is relevant even if the timing may be off (e.g., you experienced the saturn/descendent energy within the past year and not 3 years ago), and, although some of the energy is routed a bit differently ... and i'll explain what i mean ... saturn is still doing its return, only its in your 7th house ... relationships may be the major area needing definition in order for you to understand the big picture ... e.g., finding a mate/friend that truly supports you completely. this is a thread from september, i think, on the saturn return.

while you did have the saturn over the neptune/mars inconjunct 3 years ago, and presently, you have neptune is crossing over your ascendent. so rather than saturn's conjunction with your descendent, its neptune's conjunction with your ascendent that is the energy routing i'm speaking about. you did experience saturn crossing your descendent, but that would have been during this past year, so the things i said to you about that would seem familiar. more on neptune/ascendent below ...

when saturn did its transit 3 years ago, it was crossing the 5th house ... if you can examine back to this time 3 years ago and what you were creating and what happened with that, you may find some clues, being in the 5th house, it would be related to offspring of some sort (whether children, a personal creation, something you created, etc.).

did you get spooked? did something start and got derailed? did you do something you thought was going to be all that and it was a disappointment? did you create something with someone only to have them steal the whole thing or just take way more credit than they deserved and diminishing your involvement?

mars inconjunct neptune is a bit tricky because it can have so many manifestations such as the one's i mentioned above. it involves the energies of assertion usually of the self and then neptune ... which covers such a wide area depending on what level of consciousness you are speaking about, but in general, i like the keyword spirituality ... but spirit has such a tricky way of manifesting because it is completely based on perception ... it can be real or it can appear to be real ... depending on the perception ... how clear is your perception? is the question i often use to help people focus their neptune energy positively.

asserting yourself when your perception is off, cloudy, misguided leads to bad decisions ... it was likely NOT the assertion of yourself that was off, it was the perception of reality that was askew, that would have led to a spiral leaving you scratching your head and wondering "what happened" ... you know on a very deep level that it wasn't "you" per se that "failed" ... but yet, you didn't have the results that you should have received. the whole "on paper, everything was perfect" scenario ... then it just went wrong somewhere.

often ... our perception is based on some criteria other than our own experience and intuition ... what others think and tell us they think, what is on the news and is told to us as being real, important, significant ... that all shapes our perception. neptune wants to completely eliminate false perception and rely on the only real perception, which comes from within and your intuition ... having clarity to listen and know what you are listening for and to, is imporant. psychics often can be 'thrown' off if you project a mental image you want them to receive and they are not trained or disciplined enough to know the difference in something your projecting and something they hear from their source. very much neptune at work.

so you are having your saturn return in the house of relationships while neptune is slowly going to cross the ascendent (during the time that saturn does its retro thing over itself like in my original posting). you will likely find much clarification for yourself as you hone, discern and clarify your perception during this time. again, the time for walking the talk ... if you have a perception of reality that you 'talk' about ... walk it out, see if its real or if its an illusion of reality.

all of your planets being on the upper horizon is significant in that it demonstrates graphically where most of your journey is here to experience ... being on the upper half or "outer" half of the horizon, shows me on one level that it is your interactions with others ... in relationships or in the world at large ... that will give you your experience which you will use for growth. that's a really simple explanation for a complex subject that we've broached in discussion a few times in some recent threads ... in particular, we touched on it most recently in this thread: http://www.mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?t=143410

and december will still be very interesting to you as the sun (and that stellium its travelling with) rather than the 11th house, it will be travelling into the 10th ... the 11th house and 9th house have similar meanings only in different context ... where the 11th house is a 'bigger picture' in terms of society and the masses, the 9th house is the bigger picture in terms of philosophy and thought. as the sun stellium crosses your MC, you likely will find some clarity in "what" or "how i best express myself here on planet earth" ... as the MC is the pinnacle of your expression (e.g., it is the blooming flower); most western astrologer relate the 10th house explicitly with one's career.

so sorry for the mistaken time ... perhaps this helps gives you a bit more specifics that are applicable ... and i think i got your questions answered, but you can always ask more!

[Brightshores]

Wow - thanks very much for that. Sorry about any confusion or causing you extra work... it's amazing how much can change in two hours, isn't it? 8O


... saturn is still doing its return, only its in your 7th house ... relationships may be the major area needing definition in order for you to understand the big picture ... e.g., finding a mate/friend that truly supports you completely.
Makes a lot of sense - I am (and have been for a while) redefining relationships with family, friends, and husband all at the same time.. (not exactly by choice, LOL)



when saturn did its transit 3 years ago, it was crossing the 5th house ... if you can examine back to this time 3 years ago and what you were creating and what happened with that, you may find some clues, being in the 5th house, it would be related to offspring of some sort (whether children, a personal creation, something you created, etc.).

did you get spooked? did something start and got derailed? did you do something you thought was going to be all that and it was a disappointment?
Did I get spooked? Yes. Did something start and get derailed? Absolutely. Did I do something I though was going to be all that and it was a disappointment? Good Lord, yes. Wow.


mars inconjunct neptune is a bit tricky because it can have so many manifestations such as the one's i mentioned above. it involves the energies of assertion usually of the self and then neptune ... which covers such a wide area depending on what level of consciousness you are speaking about, but in general, i like the keyword spirituality ... but spirit has such a tricky way of manifesting because it is completely based on perception ... it can be real or it can appear to be real ... depending on the perception ... how clear is your perception? is the question i often use to help people focus their neptune energy positively.

How clear is my perception? I flatter myself that it's pretty clear most of the time, but I do get distracted when I worry about what other people think, and when I go against my intuition to please others. I've got to work on that one...


asserting yourself when your perception is off, cloudy, misguided leads to bad decisions ... it was likely NOT the assertion of yourself that was off, it was the perception of reality that was askew, that would have led to a spiral leaving you scratching your head and wondering "what happened" ... you know on a very deep level that it wasn't "you" per se that "failed" ... but yet, you didn't have the results that you should have received. the whole "on paper, everything was perfect" scenario ... then it just went wrong somewhere.

This is deeply, deeply meaningful for me.. I've spent the last two years trying to figure out what I've done to screw things up.. and my husband has been trying to tell me that I've done everything I could, and things just haven't worked out..


all of your planets being on the upper horizon is significant in that it demonstrates graphically where most of your journey is here to experience ... being on the upper half or "outer" half of the horizon, shows me on one level that it is your interactions with others ... in relationships or in the world at large ... that will give you your experience which you will use for growth. that's a really simple explanation for a complex subject that we've broached in discussion a few times in some recent threads ... in particular, we touched on it most recently in this thread: http://www.mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?t=143410

Thank you for that.. that makes a lot of sense.. so rather than going inward, I should be working on my connection with my higher self and with the world... interesting.


and december will still be very interesting to you as the sun (and that stellium its travelling with) rather than the 11th house, it will be travelling into the 10th ... the 11th house and 9th house have similar meanings only in different context ... where the 11th house is a 'bigger picture' in terms of society and the masses, the 9th house is the bigger picture in terms of philosophy and thought. as the sun stellium crosses your MC, you likely will find some clarity in "what" or "how i best express myself here on planet earth" ... as the MC is the pinnacle of your expression (e.g., it is the blooming flower); most western astrologer relate the 10th house explicitly with one's career.

Looking forward to December now - perhaps I will find a bit of clarity and forward motion after much stagnation.. all I need to do is figure out where to put my energy. (easier said than done, I'm betting. :) )

You have an amazing gift for packing an enormous amount of meaning in a fairly short space... I think once again it's going to take me quite a while to mull over all this and integrate these insights... I have to go finish baking pies for Thanksgiving now, but I will probably be back..

Thank you again... and Happy Thanksgiving..
~B

[business voodoo]

Makes a lot of sense - I am (and have been for a while) redefining relationships with family, friends, and husband all at the same time.. (not exactly by choice, LOL)


that's saturn's typical MO!!! sometimes it nice to be shown what needs to be changed when you are not quite sure yourself.



How clear is my perception? I flatter myself that it's pretty clear most of the time, but I do get distracted when I worry about what other people think, and when I go against my intuition to please others. I've got to work on that one...

that, in a nutshell, is your mars/neptune inconjunct. that you have consciousness of your "habit" (which is what it is, likely learned from a parent very early in your life), it will forever now be your conscious choice to repeat it. because in reality, you were not 'born' with that as a natural tendancy. sometimes inconjuncts are inherited from past lives, but usually, they are simply the habits picked up from childhood that were not naturally ours. once inconjunctions are no long unconscious patterns, and used in the strongest way possible ... e.g., the habit of substituting one's intuition for thoughts of what other's think versus the habit of knowing your intuition is dead on and going for it ... for one who is trying to live a conscious life, its one of the biggest breakthroughs.

happy thanksgiving ... i think i'm going to order in a pizza! lol ... i don't have a table yet for the new house and the thought of eating "thanksgiving dinner" on our breakfast bar or our breakfast table just doesn't work for me! later we're visiting friends, so we'll get that thanksgiving vibe anyway! enjoy those pies, family and festivities!

[belgianmoonguy]

I think we would hit it off...
Your sun on my Moon, your Jupiter on my Sun, Mars' conjunct within 2°... And your rising on my Vertex...
But there's an ocean between and i'm just joking off course... :hahugh: :lookwhats :lol:

Earth/ Water & Fire are most represented... Air lacks... There could be a lack in reasoning, relating to other people, communication...
But your 7th house is very full, with ruler and co ruler of that house in it... 7th house is an Air house, so that could fill the void...
By modalities, they seem all three in equal mesure represented...

You tend to be too factual, leaving little room for open interpretation and vagueness...
You are reliable and need people you can rely on also... This is proven by the Moon in Cap in 12 (and the sun in Virgo)... But you tend to hide your feelings away from the world (Moon in 12) and somehow you could be attracted towards hidden emotional engagements, with people who are taken
There can be a restriction in love matters (Venus conjunct Saturn in 7)but also a certain durability, stability...
Attraction towards older, intellectual, charming people (Saturn, Mercury & Venus in 7)...

There's a contradiction inside of you
A part is conservative and realist (virgo sun and Mercury, Venus conjunct Saturn, Moon in Cap)
a part is a dreamer (neptune in 10 in Sag, neptune as co ruler of the first house)
You have 18°24' Aquarius as rising (please correct me if i'm wrong)
So your chart rulers are Saturn and Uranus

Saturn is in 7 in Leo
A chart ruler in 7 is someone who is a partner, a personal confident, a searcher for his/ her soul mate...
With Saturn you want relations to be stable, durable, but leaving sometimes to little room for expression emotion and too much emphasis on authority...

Uranus is in 8/ 9 in Scorpio...
A chart ruler in 8 is an researcher, someone who likes to dive into the depths of everything, leaving no stone unturned... No subject is safe, especially not the taboo subjects...
A chart ruler in 9 is a traveller, an explorer... When you travel, explore new stuff/ land, you do it intensely... Half work is a sin in your dictionnary
And with Uranus being the chart ruler, everything happens in an innovative, original way...

Last two years...
transit Uranus opposing your natal Mercury/ Vertex conjunction
transit Neptune going towards your natal Ascendant
transit Pluto going towards a square to your natal Sun...
And indeed that Saturn Return and the first progressive Moon circle you finished
So i can believe it when you say that you life has been shaken upside down

[Brightshores]

Hi there - thanks for taking the time to look at my chart! :)


I think we would hit it off...
Your sun on my Moon, your Jupiter on my Sun, Mars' conjunct within 2°... And your rising on my Vertex...
But there's an ocean between and i'm just joking off course... :hahugh: :lookwhats :lol:
:lol: Thanks for the compliment, but I think my husband might take exception. I do appreciate it, though. :)


Earth/ Water & Fire are most represented... Air lacks... There could be a lack in reasoning, relating to other people, communication...
But your 7th house is very full, with ruler and co ruler of that house in it... 7th house is an Air house, so that could fill the void...
By modalities, they seem all three in equal mesure represented...

You tend to be too factual, leaving little room for open interpretation and vagueness...
You are reliable and need people you can rely on also... This is proven by the Moon in Cap in 12 (and the sun in Virgo)... But you tend to hide your feelings away from the world (Moon in 12) and somehow you could be attracted towards hidden emotional engagements, with people who are taken
There can be a restriction in love matters (Venus conjunct Saturn in 7)but also a certain durability, stability...
Attraction towards older, intellectual, charming people (Saturn, Mercury & Venus in 7)...

True - I tend to rely very much on the logical part of my mind, and loyalty (both from and towards myself) is very important to me. Also - for me to be attracted to anyone, romantically or simply in terms of people I get along with well - there has to be an intellectual connection, a meeting of the minds.


There's a contradiction inside of you
A part is conservative and realist (virgo sun and Mercury, Venus conjunct Saturn, Moon in Cap)
a part is a dreamer (neptune in 10 in Sag, neptune as co ruler of the first house)
You have 18°24' Aquarius as rising (please correct me if i'm wrong)
So your chart rulers are Saturn and Uranus

This is very, very true..


Saturn is in 7 in Leo
A chart ruler in 7 is someone who is a partner, a personal confident, a searcher for his/ her soul mate...
With Saturn you want relations to be stable, durable, but leaving sometimes to little room for expression emotion and too much emphasis on authority...

I don't know if this is relevant, but my husband is a Capricorn Sun with Capricorn rising.. :)


Uranus is in 8/ 9 in Scorpio...
A chart ruler in 8 is an researcher, someone who likes to dive into the depths of everything, leaving no stone unturned... No subject is safe, especially not the taboo subjects...
A chart ruler in 9 is a traveller, an explorer... When you travel, explore new stuff/ land, you do it intensely... Half work is a sin in your dictionnary
And with Uranus being the chart ruler, everything happens in an innovative, original way...

This is also very true.. I love learning and researching; have several advanced degrees, and love nothing more than traveling and learning more about the world - the farther away the better. I've lived overseas and I can't say I've had a terribly "conventional" life...


Last two years...
transit Uranus opposing your natal Mercury/ Vertex conjunction
transit Neptune going towards your natal Ascendant
transit Pluto going towards a square to your natal Sun...
And indeed that Saturn Return and the first progressive Moon circle you finished
So i can believe it when you say that you life has been shaken upside down
Yup. :awilly: It might be too early to say this.. but I think I'm beginning to see the light at the end of the tunnel, but it has been one heck of a ride the past few years. I hope you don't mind me asking, but what is a progressive Moon circle?

Thank you again for having a look at this! :)

[belgianmoonguy]

If we follow traditional astrology, it's may be no surprise your hubby has lots of Cap...
You have an Aquarian Rising, the old ruler of Aqua is Saturn...
Saturn is in 7 in Leo...

He has Cap Sun & Cap Rising... Hail to Saturn
Does he have Sun in 1 or 12?

Where have you lived overseas? And which advanced degrees do you have?

True - I tend to rely very much on the logical part of my mind, and loyalty (both from and towards myself) is very important to me. Also - for me to be attracted to anyone, romantically or simply in terms of people I get along with well - there has to be an intellectual connection, a meeting of the minds.

Loyalty can be seen into the light of Venus conjunct Saturn in Leo...
Leo's rarely cheat... unless it's a Leo always looking for admiration...
Saturn in 7 can indeed be tremendouos dedicated...
And with Virgo intercepted in 7, Mercury and sun in 7 in Virgo, especially virgo, you couldn't have a long lasting thing with someone who you can't talk or relate too

Progressions...
1 day is a year...
So you're now 29... we must count 29 days after your birth and a few months and then consider where those points (the progressed planets) fall in your chart...
Normally the first time the progressed Moon coincides witht the natal birth Moon position is aroudn the same time as the first Saturn return: 27/28/29, there can also be a year difference, and most of the time progressed Moon is a year earlier

[Brightshores]

If we follow traditional astrology, it's may be no surprise your hubby has lots of Cap...
You have an Aquarian Rising, the old ruler of Aqua is Saturn...
Saturn is in 7 in Leo...

He has Cap Sun & Cap Rising... Hail to Saturn
Does he have Sun in 1 or 12?

Looks like his Sun, Venus, and Mercury are all in Capricorn, house 1.

(I don't know very much about astrology - this is pretty much all I can do - run the numbers through the astro.com website and find out where things are. I have no idea what it means, though, but I'd like to learn more. :) )

Where have you lived overseas? And which advanced degrees do you have?
We lived in Britain for 4 years; I have master's degrees in History and Education.


Progressions...
1 day is a year...
So you're now 29... we must count 29 days after your birth and a few months and then consider where those points (the progressed planets) fall in your chart...
Normally the first time the progressed Moon coincides witht the natal birth Moon position is aroudn the same time as the first Saturn return: 27/28/29, there can also be a year difference, and most of the time progressed Moon is a year earlier


Thanks for explaining this! :)

[belgianmoonguy]

That's nothing my dear...
You're welcome

If you want to, i can do a synastyr of you and your guy...
GRtz