Chart Request, please...

[myasthenia]

Hey guys,

Im new to Astrology. The only thing I really know so far is that I am an Aquarius (Thats what it said on my Myspace page), so please forgive me if I ask a stupid question.

Ive been reading some of the threads here and I was wondering if someone here could give me a Birthchart/Reading?

Date of Birth - February 8, 1987
Time of Birth - 1:08 AM EST
Place of Birth - Portland, Maine, USA

Peace,
Adam. :)

[KEishin]

You are correct – your Sun is in Aquarius. (Don’t worry – you’re not stupid. Very few people know more than their sun sign.) You also have your Moon in Gemini and Scorpio rising. That’s a good balance, and in fact your chart is very balanced as far as elements go. But you skew strongly towards mutable signs (Gemini, Virgo, and Sagittarius) which I’ll get into in a moment. Your chart has all the planets in the bottom hemisphere, which we astrologers refer to as a “bowl” horoscope, because they look like they’re sitting in a big bowl. Anytime there is a strong southern hemisphere emphasis, it produces a person who is introverted by nature. This is a surprising combination on first glance – you’re quite a romantic. Very idealistic, but also with a tendency to judge; you live by your own laws. But you very much live in your mind, even if you seem emotionally driven on the surface. You are very quick intellectually, but you tend to skim the surface and only dig deep into one or two topics. This is related to the strong mutable signature in your chart. Mutable signs are those that are neither cardinal (like to start things) or fixed (like to finish things), but in between. Attention span can be a problem. Personally, however, your nature is truly much more fixed than it appears on first glance; once you have a goal, get out of your way! It's important for you to learn to relax, for the restlessness of your driving nature can have a damaging effect on your health if you don't learn to unwind. It's also good for you to not take yourself so seriously - learn to laugh at yourself, and refrain for being to rigid. With Mercury naturally in its third house (the house it rules) you must have some form of creative activity that allows you to express your ideas and thoughts. Use this talent to your advantage. You may feel the need to talk constantly, so companionship is very important to you. You need others for stimulation and to keep you focused.

Right now, you have some upcoming transits you need to be aware of. First is that Mars and Jupiter just crossed your Ascendant. This is a signal of starting a new cycle of activity, be it a new hobby, or new job. You find yourself with a lot more energy than you are used to, so if it’s getting to you, go do something physical to clear it out – sports, yard work, moving heavy objects, etc. Then Uranus is moving into your 4th house. When it does this, it is opposite your Midheaven, so it can affect your career as well. For the few weeks that Uranus spends at the exact bottom of your chart, your job is subject to sudden change. You may decide, on the spur of the moment, to change jobs or even careers. Being younger, maybe you decide to leave and strike out on your own. Maybe your boss fires you, or your parents get divorced. What happens exactly depends on your situation. For most of this transit, Uranus will just be affecting your home and relations with parents. If you don’t move residences, this would be an excellent time to fix up the house, give it a new look. As always with Uranus transits, watch out for a tendency to rush into things.

Next, you’re in the middle of a period of change and activity as all the major planets but Saturn go right over the bottom of your chart. So it’s like getting run over by a train – you get hit by one car, then the next and the next . . . This is not to say your life’s a train wreck, but that life’s just being a little relentless in the curveballs it’s throwing out. Whether you’re in college or working (or both), you are in the process of making your own way in the world, on all levels. Frustration could be driving you nuts. You are full of energy and are ready for action, and yet no matter which way you turn your path seems to be blocked. You tend to be shy by nature and may have difficulty expressing yourself. Or you could be a compulsive blabber. Both are really the same problem, not being heard, *especially* in relationships. Emotions may flare up or arguments where you express anger at yourself and at others for thwarting your attempts to do things. You could feel up tight and blocked on all sides... unable to move forward. Patience, young Jedi – you’ll get there. Even if you hit road bumps, many things will continue move smoothly under the radar.

Stand by to cut loose a lot of dead wood, as regards what you appreciate and value. You may find yourself no longer liking the things you used to. There is always pain/fear surrounding changes of this magnitude, and you are advised to "go with the flow" at this time and just let things happen without trying to control them. (“Surrender is fun,” said the Hanged Man.) Attempts to hold on to things that have changed will only make you crazy. Ultimately, it’s for the best, as suppressing that kind of stuff never leads to good things. When you have integrated these forces, they will become powerful allies as your outlook changes and you become better able to relate to yourself and others around you.

[myasthenia]

Wow, I never thought there ever could be such a detailed responce from looking at a circle and a couple of lines, interesting. :)

Hhmmm, so, your Rising sign and Moon sign effects you more then your Sun sign? I dont get it, I thought your Sun sign was the main factor or whatever?

PS. KEishin,

I tried looking up a description of all 3 of those signs when put together, (that you wrote about in your post) but all I could find was Sun/Moon combinations, and Rising/Sun combinations, why is that? The reason why I wanted to see what all 3 together would be like, is because, some people have said I am balanced and some have said that I am an absolute rollercoaster to deal with, lol... Yikes!

[KEishin]

Wow, I never thought there ever could be such a detailed responce from looking at a circle and a couple of lines, interesting. :):lol: Very amusing! I may just have to quote you someday.


Hhmmm, so, your Rising sign and Moon sign effects you more then your Sun sign? I dont get it, I thought your Sun sign was the main factor or whatever? Not exactly.
It can be a little complicated, so let me try an analogy. All the planets in your chart are collectively in charge of running the person you call "you." Each has their own role - some deal with emotions (the Moon) some with career (Jupiter) - and they all interact with each other. But there's only one guy in charge - the Sun and he sets the rules. So while your mutable Gemini Moon is wanting to say a nasty comment over something that made you angry, your airy Aquarius Sun is saying "slow down, let's think this over before we flip out." And the Sun rules so that's what comes out, even if you feel different.

What makes it really complex is that the Sun (or any other planet) does not always have the same amount of strength. Your Aquarius Sun will have a different amount of influence in your chart than another Aqu Sun in another chart would. There are a lot of factors that can affect how "weak" or "strong" a planet acts in a chart - house placement, essential dignity (signs), aspects to other planets for starters - so that's why many astrologers call it an "art and a science." It's about weighing all those factors, mixing 'em up and deciding which are the strongest, and therefore most evident in a personality. That's why we're all different. :)


PS. KEishin,
I tried looking up a description of all 3 of those signs when put together, (that you wrote about in your post) but all I could find was Sun/Moon combinations, and Rising/Sun combinations, why is that? The reason why I wanted to see what all 3 together would be like, is because, some people have said I am balanced and some have said that I am an absolute rollercoaster to deal with, lol... Yikes!That's because there ARE no descriptions that combine the three (to my knowledge). I write 'em as I see 'em. I look at those three parts of your chart and decide how much Scorpio/Aquarius/Gemini your AC/Sun/Moon express respectively. Everybody's slightly different. It's not "one from column A, one from column B" or anything like that. It's written just about and for you. :hahugh: Somebody would have to sit down and write 1728 different interpretations for all the possible combinations of just those three points! So I've never met anyone obsessive enough to do so (though I considered the idea for a while as a learning exercise).

I said you were balanced as far as elements go, but they all are in the same region of your chart, so you have this whole upper half with nothing, so you're concentrated there. As far as being "the rollercoaster", that's also the effect of all those mutable signs in your chart. They're doing one thing one moment and something totally different the next. (Ooh, look! Shiny!) They are very elusive and hard signs to pin down when very active.

Does that clarify things better? If it doesn't, please ask. I'm a Mercury person - I like to talk anyway! :lol:

- Keishin

[myasthenia]

:lol: Very amusing! I may just have to quote you someday.

Hah! Thats fine with me man.... Go for it. :yayah:


Not exactly.
It can be a little complicated, so let me try an analogy. All the planets in your chart are collectively in charge of running the person you call "you." Each has their own role - some deal with emotions (the Moon) some with career (Jupiter) - and they all interact with each other. But there's only one guy in charge - the Sun and he sets the rules. So while your mutable Gemini Moon is wanting to say a nasty comment over something that made you angry, your airy Aquarius Sun is saying "slow down, let's think this over before we flip out." And the Sun rules so that's what comes out, even if you feel different.

Well I know personally that people sometimes take things I say as a personal attack but I am actually just trying to help them. It takes some time for people to get use to it but this is what I am slowly learning to do, if its someone I am just trying to get an idea through to or I am trying to clarify something, I start out by saying, " I know you may take this wrong or feel like I am attacking you. Please just listen to what I have to say because I want to help. If it makes you feel bad I am sorry but I just say it like I see it. " Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesnt. Sometimes people are a little to sensitive to what I say. I just don't understand people sometimes.

Certain things I can tell people and its not really anything that is a big deal and they get all emotional about it. Then they tell me they get upset because it came from me. But if someone else said it, they would have brushed it off like nothing happened. I know that I do set high standards for my friends and I am just going to be let down at times. What I am learning is that you dont always have to be right (even if I am, haha http://www.pillarmusic.com/forums/img/smilies/wink.png) Its tough but I am learning to just back down when I know I am just going to trash someones feelings in the process. It just depends on who they are and who the sensitive friends are. I hope this might help or if even makes sense? It may just come out like a bunch of gibberish bullshit for all I know?

Its just something I am still going to have to work on, I still mess up and brutalize my friends with words. I try not to though and I try to get them to make me aware when I do it. I know I always come off as an @#$% but I really just try to be a good friend. Go figure, haha.


What makes it really complex is that the Sun (or any other planet) does not always have the same amount of strength. Your Aquarius Sun will have a different amount of influence in your chart than another Aqu Sun in another chart would. There are a lot of factors that can affect how "weak" or "strong" a planet acts in a chart - house placement, essential dignity (signs), aspects to other planets for starters - so that's why many astrologers call it an "art and a science." It's about weighing all those factors, mixing 'em up and deciding which are the strongest, and therefore most evident in a personality. That's why we're all different. :)

Okay well, looking at my chart, could you tell me which signs, ect. are the strongest and which are the weakest? I know I feel awfully confused most of the times about stuff people are talking about, so I just try to keep out of their conversations alot of the time, mostly because, they tend to ignore me, and when they dont, the criticise the living hell outta me, not cool, huh? And alot of stuff that Ive started being interested in, people arnt, or atleast, they dont share the same excitement about things that I like (Music, Art, Astrology, Psychology, Philosophy...ect.). Its weird because, people will tell me stuff and I'll just say "Yeah, thats cool" and leave it at that and not appear to have much interest in it, but stuff that I find interesting, I think about constantly, to the point of obbsession, some would say. I'm def. a person of extremes... I dive head first into somethings, and others I pass over stuff completely without any interest at all, it seems?


That's because there ARE no descriptions that combine the three (to my knowledge). I write 'em as I see 'em. I look at those three parts of your chart and decide how much Scorpio/Aquarius/Gemini your AC/Sun/Moon express respectively. Everybody's slightly different. It's not "one from column A, one from column B" or anything like that. It's written just about and for you. :hahugh: Somebody would have to sit down and write 1728 different interpretations for all the possible combinations of just those three points! So I've never met anyone obsessive enough to do so (though I considered the idea for a while as a learning exercise).

Oh man, if I did that, I'd tottally become burned out and loss all interest that I previously had, LOL. Yeah, that def. wouldnt be a good idea, man. :lol:


I said you were balanced as far as elements go, but they all are in the same region of your chart, so you have this whole upper half with nothing, so you're concentrated there. As far as being "the rollercoaster", that's also the effect of all those mutable signs in your chart. They're doing one thing one moment and something totally different the next. (Ooh, look! Shiny!) They are very elusive and hard signs to pin down when very active.

Yeah, like I said before, Im a person of extremes, In school, I went from entertaining a whole group of people to walking around the hallways all by myself. I go from talking too much to not at all, thats why my mom says I am a very difficult person to be around most of the time, because I am so unpredicable in everything I do.


Does that clarify things better? If it doesn't, please ask. I'm a Mercury person - I like to talk anyway! :lol:

- Keishin

Yes, that cleared up ALOT of confusion thanks alot, man! And I dont mind if you write alot, I was just surprised that you could say and know so much about ME, no one ever really has taken the time to figure me out like that... Nice going! :hahugh: But yes, I enjoy these long posts, they give me something interesting to learn and think about.

Thanks again and Peace,
Adam. :)

PS. Someone gave me a link to Astro.com and I filled out my chart information there and so I took a screenshot of what it wrote up for me, is it the same as yours?

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n171/Killfornia/MyPlanetsandHouses1.jpg

[KEishin]

I'll take this one at a time . . .

Well I know personally that people sometimes take things I say as a personal attack but I am actually just trying to help them. <snip> I start out by saying, " If it makes you feel bad I am sorry but I just say it like I see it. " Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesnt. Sometimes people are a little to sensitive to what I say. I just don't understand people sometimes. That is entirely a result of having an intense "gonna tell it like it is" Scorpio Ascendant, which is ruled by Pluto, rising just before your Ascendant (translation, Pluto packs a punch). Pluto isn't called the "planet of extremes" for nothing! Scorpio energy, especially in men (not quite sure why the gender imbalance) comes across as intense, disturbing, mysterious and commanding all at the same time. Ironically, this is even if you're trying to be cool and calm! When something gets in your way, you prefer to just charge through it. With Mars (drive and energy), the co-ruler of Scorpio, in brash Aries, it just emphasizes very strongly that you don't take well to shades of grey and people fudging the truth. You know when they're lying. You're not going to change that intensity easily. You may not like the idea, but you could benefit from patience. Yes, you have a very clear and deep perspective of life (a fine gift), but that does not let you run over people who don't see your way. Some people just don't "get it" the same way as you so it would be wise to not write people off because they need longer to figure things out. Before jumping into something, *listen* to other people's opinions and views. You'll probably still do exactly what you planned (why not, right?), but people will feel more comfortable knowing you listened to them.


Certain things I can tell people and its not really anything that is a big deal and they get all emotional about it. Then they tell me they get upset because it came from me. But if someone else said it, they would have brushed it off like nothing happened. I know that I do set high standards for my friends and I am just going to be let down at times. What I am learning is that you dont always have to be right (even if I am, haha http://www.pillarmusic.com/forums/img/smilies/wink.png) I hope this might help or if even makes sense? It makes perfect sense. I have a big mouth and am *very* blunt at times so I've said something, then been like "What? Whatcha so upset about?" Don't ask my opinion unless you really want to know, is what I tell folks. Some days I think I should come with a warning sticker. :hahugh:

Being let down is part of life and handling that gracefully is a skill not many people master. Keep trying - you definitely have the strength. Part of the reason people take your words so emotionally is that they cut right to their core. Not because you're an insensitive jerk, but because you see more easily to the deeper levels of people that a lot of them try to pretend don't exist. And sometimes it's not just you - people either instantly like you or hate you and can't often say why. There are usually other issues at play then. With sensitive Mercury in Pisces (communication) trine Pluto (intensity), your words will come across with force, and sometimes brutal honesty, saying what needs to be said. Again, if it's too much of a problems for you, my advice is get an understanding friend and have them tell you exactly how you come across. Then see if you can get a good book or class on behavior modification and figure out what you want to do from there. My suggestion is for you to read "Healing Pluto Problems" by Donna Cunningham (http://www.amazon.com/Healing-Pluto-Problems-Donna-Cunningham/dp/0877283982). It is an astrology book, but it is written specifically for people with strong Plutos in their charts and is quite non-astrologer friendly.


Okay well, looking at my chart, could you tell me which signs, ect. are the strongest and which are the weakest? I know I feel awfully confused most of the times about stuff people are talking about, so I just try to keep out of their conversations alot of the time, mostly because, they tend to ignore me, and when they dont, the criticise the living hell outta me, not cool, huh? And alot of stuff that Ive started being interested in, people arnt, or atleast, they dont share the same excitement about things that I like (Music, Art, Astrology, Psychology, Philosophy...ect.). Its weird because, people will tell me stuff and I'll just say "Yeah, thats cool" and leave it at that and not appear to have much interest in it, but stuff that I find interesting, I think about constantly, to the point of obbsession, some would say. I'm def. a person of extremes... I dive head first into somethings, and others I pass over stuff completely without any interest at all, it seems?Well, there's a lot of stuff going on in your chart (like we all have) and I really don't have the space here to delve too deeply. But in brief, your emotions and words are all knotted up in a mass o'hurting. You are very much more sensitive than you let on, and probably your family didn't get it, so you retreated by clamming up and keeping that sensitivity to yourself. Early on you learned that you could get hurt easily so you probably have some isolation-induced wounds that still bother you. All that Plutonian self-awareness can twist you up in knots, because (shocker) . . . you spend more time thinking than doing! I know it's hard to take that leap from thought to action sometimes, but it's important to keep trying. I think you will make tremendous progress on these issues when in steady, long-term relationships. Other people are excellent mirrors for what's inside us. Rather than wait for others to guess what you're thinking, speak up and ask for what you need. If you have to practice in front of a mirror to get your courage up, then by all means. The combination of quiet, intense, "I look like I'm reading your mind" just freaks people out, so they don't *want* to approach you. But if they did, they'd find out you're a pretty cool person. It's a double-edged sword.

And there's nothing wrong with your interests. Go for it. Just don't get so into them you forget to eat or anything.


no one ever really has taken the time to figure me out like that... Well then it's about time. (And you're welcome.)


I took a screenshot of what it wrote up for me, is it the same as yours?Yep.
Sorry I didn't post a chart for you, but I was doing it at (shhh) work and their security settings won't allow me to post images. So I put it on now.

[belgianmoonguy]

You learn in your own way.... (Sun in Aqua)...
You don't want to be rushed in the learning proces... (Sun in 3)

There is a lot to you people don't get (Pluto in 12, Pluto as chart ruler)
The extremes could be considered as weird by other people...
'Why is he acting like that all of a sudden? What a hypocrit! could they think'
But they don't understand the intensity you seem to have...

To me you're an Air person with a Water mask...
You seem deep, emotional, but you really want to communicate, to understand, to reason... (Aqua Sun, Gem Moon)...

An 8 in numerology, destiny number as psychich number as well, you could hit a lot of opposition of other people
Be aware of acting not too arrogant...

And which sun signs are better favored...
The sun in Aquarius is destroyed... The Sun rules Leo, the sign opposed to Aqua, so Aqua is one of the worst placements for the sun to be, so they say...
But i know a lot of impossible Leo's and a lot of friendly Aqua's... So it all depends of aspects i guess...

Although i called you rational, i think somewhere you have a poetic mind... You can get a way with words and are good at translating emotions into words (Mercury in Pisces), but Mercury likes cold clean facts and not emotional wishy whasy stuff... and with Venus conjunct Neptune, you could be good at writing love poems, but also chasing an impossible dream (if it's a someone or something, that is up to you)... But with that conjunction in Capricorn, yo're may be far grounded then i think or say... You just like to structure your affections and it could happen that they don't come over as spontanuous, but over all, you can be dependable...

You do have indeed some planets in destruction

Mercury in Pisces, while he's best off in Virgo, the sign opposed to it
Sun in Aqua, just explained

Mars is best in Aries
Jupiter is on its best in Pisces (one of the two signs he rules)
Pluto is on its best in Scorpio (the sign he rules over together with Mars)

[myasthenia]

Hhmmm... Everyone Ive met (at one point in time or another) has said Im to difficult to understand, unpredictable, ect. Even my own mom has said that "dealing with you is like walking on eggshells". But, here is my problem, when I chill out and control my anger, I get bored and really depressed about the things around me (People, hobbies, my surroundings, ect.).

And people have a hardtime realising that with me, (because they like the more subdued me, I guess?) To them I appear happier but on the inside I feel worse, is what Im trying to get at.

So, I guess my problem is learning how to chill out, but how to deal with the big boring mute atmosphere of it all afterwards...

[KEishin]

Remember that there's an important difference between controlling anger and suppressing anger. In my personal experience I've found that continued depressive states often have anger at the core of the issue.

[myasthenia]

You learn in your own way.... (Sun in Aqua)...
You don't want to be rushed in the learning proces... (Sun in 3)

There is a lot to you people don't get (Pluto in 12, Pluto as chart ruler)
The extremes could be considered as weird by other people...
'Why is he acting like that all of a sudden? What a hypocrit! could they think'
But they don't understand the intensity you seem to have...

To me you're an Air person with a Water mask...
You seem deep, emotional, but you really want to communicate, to understand, to reason... (Aqua Sun, Gem Moon)...

An 8 in numerology, destiny number as psychich number as well, you could hit a lot of opposition of other people
Be aware of acting not too arrogant...

And which sun signs are better favored...
The sun in Aquarius is destroyed... The Sun rules Leo, the sign opposed to Aqua, so Aqua is one of the worst placements for the sun to be, so they say...
But i know a lot of impossible Leo's and a lot of friendly Aqua's... So it all depends of aspects i guess...

Although i called you rational, i think somewhere you have a poetic mind... You can get a way with words and are good at translating emotions into words (Mercury in Pisces), but Mercury likes cold clean facts and not emotional wishy whasy stuff... and with Venus conjunct Neptune, you could be good at writing love poems, but also chasing an impossible dream (if it's a someone or something, that is up to you)... But with that conjunction in Capricorn, yo're may be far grounded then i think or say... You just like to structure your affections and it could happen that they don't come over as spontanuous, but over all, you can be dependable...

You do have indeed some planets in destruction

Mercury in Pisces, while he's best off in Virgo, the sign opposed to it
Sun in Aqua, just explained

Mars is best in Aries
Jupiter is on its best in Pisces (one of the two signs he rules)
Pluto is on its best in Scorpio (the sign he rules over together with Mars)

Oh, I just have so many questions to ask about this stuff, haha, that its hard to do all at once... Aaahh! :D

Yeah, I dont get along with Leo's at all. Infact, there hasnt been a single Leo that I havnt fought with yet (and that goes for both guy & girl Leo's). We butt heads ALOT, to say the least.

What I am trying to figure out is whats the deal with my Venus and Mars? Okay, I have Venus in Capricorn, but my Mars is in Aries... Isnt that a bad combo or what? LOL. I get all hot when I meet a girl, but by the time I actually take the time to get to know her, Ive lost any and all interest that I previously had in her.... :/

Theres probably only 4 girls I can name off the top of my head that I still like like, and one is a Cancer, another is a Sagittarius, then theres a Pisces, and the other is an Aquarius. These 4 girls that I mention just totally mystify my mind like no others seem to do.

I'm attracted to these girls on both an extreme mental and physical level. Its not so much because their unpredictable, but its because they all can look at me and know exactly whats going on, like no one else seems to take the time to do... And I can def. sense an almost Angelic energy that they all carry about themselves. :D

So, I was wondering, what could all four of them have in common (chart wise) that I am so attracted, to?

And I have another question while Im at it if you dont mind? I did my chat on Astro.com alittle while ago and this was also another screenshot that I took from the info they gave me :

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n171/Killfornia/MyPlanetsandHouses2.jpg

What do the major aspects mean? And I dont know what that whole row of the words "Sextile", "Trine", "Square", ect. ect... are for? Thats the part that confused me the most...

Oh, and if you'll scroll up and take a look at the first screenshot I took, in the Planetary Positions section there is a column to the righ that says "Motion" and all the way down the column it says "direct" except for the last two, and one says "stationary (R)" and the other says, "renograde", what is that all about? Just curious....

Thanks again! :)