The Nine Satanic Statements! (LeVayan)

[Stormbeard]

The following are nine statements taken from The Satanic Bible. It's the key to understanding all Satanism. Try not to take it at face value, they're not commandments or rules, they're just statements to be understood and accepted. Keep in mind that LeVay's work was heavily influenced by the writings of German philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche. The statements themselves are heavily Anti Judeo-Christian, but, the more you read into LeVay, the more you'll find this to be the common theme in his work. Hence the title 'Satanism'. Satan was the rival of Christianity. He was greed, jealousy, hate, pride. It was upon this comparison (dashed with a little eccentric theatre) that this religion was named.


1. Satan represents indulgence instead of abstinence!

2. Satan represents vital existence instead of spiritual pipe dreams!

3. Satan represents undefiled wisdom instead of hypocritical self-deceit!

4. Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it instead of love wasted on ingrates!

5. Satan represents vengeance instead of turning the other cheek!

6. Satan represents responsibility to the responsible instead of concern for psychic vampires!

7. Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his “divine spiritual and intellectual development,” has become the most vicious animal of all!

8. Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification!

9. Satan has been the best friend the Church has ever had, as He has kept it in business all these years!

[Rudas Starblaze]

:yayah: gotta love mainstream christianities ideas on Satan! lol i personally understand him more in the old testament sense rather than the twisted "all evil" that the new testament and dantes inferno made him out to be. like myself, hes not a bad guy, he just has a bad rep!:lol:

[Eternal Night]

It seems to me that the statements of Satanism are very simalair to most human faults!
At this moment in time if i had to choose between 'God' and 'Satan' I'd choose Satan! He seems alot less demanding and judgemental!!
Alot less human!!

[Stormbeard]

Alot less human!!

On the contrary. Satan is humanity. He is human nature. He wants to **** all the time, eat delicious things and not get fat, and have money and power.

[Eternal Night]

On the contrary. Satan is humanity. He is human nature. He wants to hug all the time, eat delicious things and not get fat, and have money and power.


OK so we are the route of all evil in christanity.
So in that case why did 'GOD' create us like this?

:heybaby:

[MagickalHack]

"God" created humanity to have free will, an aparently unforseen side effect of that [thus proving "God" isn't omnipotent] is our desire to do what gratifies us in one way or another.




Note: I do not claim to be a satanist, but I felt the need to add my two cents.

[Twinkle]

You know.....this isn't so far off my beliefs as a Hellenic Reconstructionist.

I think, though...that I have a tendency to balance piety and reverence with personal responsibility and justice.

[Sesen]

9. Satan has been the best friend the Church has ever had, as He has kept it in business all these years!


I have been an admirer of the writings of Kahlil Gibran for a while, and this last statement made me think of one of his short stories titled 'Satan'. It is a dialogue between a wounded and dying Satan and a local priest. Through the course of the conversation the priest comes to realize how much he needs Satan and ends up tending to his wounds. Here is an excerpt from the story.

"In every city under the sun my name was the axis of the educational circle of religion, arts, and philosophy. Had it not been for me, no temples would have been built, no towers or palaces would have been erected. I am the courage that creates resolution in man. I am the source that provokes originality of thought. I am the hand that moves man's hands. I am Satan everlasting. I am Satan whom people fight in order to keep themselves alive. If they cease struggling against me, slothfulness will deaden their minds and hearts and souls, in accordance with the weird penalties of their tremendous myth."

And if anyone is interested you can read the whole story here: http://leb.net/gibran/

[Stormbeard]

OK so we are the route of all evil in christanity.
So in that case why did 'GOD' create us like this?

:heybaby:

Christianity is a lie.

[Eternal Night]

Christianity is a lie.


For u it is but some people it isn't.
Me personally think it's a lot of poo, but other people bas their whole lives around trying to be this perfect being. Living up to their God's expectations.
Any who I'm drifting here this isn't a disscusion bout Christianity.
I totally relate to most of the statements that were written.
The fact the ease and the evryman for himself attitude is probably the most appealing thing about being a Satanist.
It's built inhuman nature to act like that even more so in todays society.
There is still agreat stigma attached to being a Satanist, even though the majority of them probably do not think of their God as the Anti Christ route of all evil.

Does that make sense or am I rambling?8O

[Stormbeard]

There is still a great stigma attached to being a Satanist, even though the majority of them probably do not think of their God as the Anti Christ route of all evil.

This is why my religion is a personal, private affair.

It's not a badge I wear, or a social club. Satan does not define me, I define Satan.

[Eternal Night]

It is a shame that people are still judged upon their religion.
Especially by people who are not willing to even try to understand it.
No religion is evil until the person makes it.

[Rudas Starblaze]

"God" created humanity to have free will, an aparently unforseen side effect of that [thus proving "God" isn't omnipotent] is our desire to do what gratifies us in one way or another.




Note: I do not claim to be a satanist, but I felt the need to add my two cents.

he created humans with free will to a certain extent. there was only one law in the beginning and that to not eat of the tree of knowledge. of course when the temptation was there and the law was broken, knowledge was given. knowledge equals free will. think of it in reference to parents and their childeren. young childeren do not have much knowledge of whats right and wrong so parents dictate their childeren via rules which limits their free will. as the child gets older and gains more knowledge the rules become less and less thus their free will becomes more and more. then they are released out into society!:lol:


Christianity is a lie.


in all honesty mate, all religions are a lie, but, they all also bare some truth as well. its not our fault some religious fundaMENTALists seem to think their way is the "right" way. i spose when they die and see me in hell theyll realize how wrong they were!!:lol:

[Starman_19]

Satan is just a word. it's a excuse for us humans to not be honest about our own fears and evil thoughts. We need to groove up and see we are the one's forcing evil to manifest itself into realty, period.

[lightdragon]

Satan is just a word. it's a excuse for us humans to not be honest about our own fears and evil thoughts. We need to groove up and see we are the one's forcing evil to manifest itself into realty, period.
isn`t that the kind of Satanism LaVey decided to bring forth or am I wrong???

[Stormbeard]

in all honesty mate, all religions are a lie, but, they all also bare some truth as well. its not our fault some religious fundaMENTALists seem to think their way is the "right" way. i spose when they die and see me in hell theyll realize how wrong they were!!:lol:

Any religion promising a spiritual pipe dream can **** off.

[Rudas Starblaze]

Any religion promising a spiritual pipe dream can hug off.

isnt that all of em bro!?:yayah:

[MagickalHack]

he created humans with free will to a certain extent. there was only one law in the beginning and that to not eat of the tree of knowledge. of course when the temptation was there and the law was broken, knowledge was given. knowledge equals free will. think of it in reference to parents and their childeren. young childeren do not have much knowledge of whats right and wrong so parents dictate their childeren via rules which limits their free will. as the child gets older and gains more knowledge the rules become less and less thus their free will becomes more and more. then they are released out into society!:lol:


Well, that is basically an extended version of what I was saying.

The choice to follow temptation, or to listen to the overbearing father-figure in the sky shows the ammount of free will of which I speak.

[Lady Valkyrie]

4. Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it instead of love wasted on ingrates!
I make it a rule in my life now to present love and kindness to only those who deserve it. Once upon a time I used to follow that fanatical fundamentalist christian view of love everyone but hate the sin. To me that ends up making you weak and a doormat. Now I'm not a Satanist, mind you, but rather a Christopagan, and I don't believe in a literal Satan or even a literal Hell. I personally believe that one doesn't have to label such ideals as Satantic but rather just life lessons.

5. Satan represents vengeance instead of turning the other cheek!
I don't like this word "vengeance." It has a connotion of anger and wrath. Anger has it's place in life but if one isn't careful it can consume you. It almost consumed me and almost destroyed me. I think a better word could have been used such as "justice." I can totally agree with the concept of seeking justice instead of constantly "turning the other cheek." Turning the other cheek ends up making you a doormat. Again this isn't neccessarily Satan but rather a life lesson I've learned.

7. Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his “divine spiritual and intellectual development,” has become the most vicious animal of all!
It is within all humans to be "good" and "evil." I personally believe there needs to be a balance between the two within a person for them to be spiritually healthy. To deny either side leads to a unhealthy and starved soul. And yes, I think we all no matter our religious affiliation can agree that at times the animal kingdom treat eachother more kindly than humankind treat eachother.

8. Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification!
As I said, all humans are both "good" and "evil" and to deny either side is to starve a soul.

9. Satan has been the best friend the Church has ever had, as He has kept it in business all these years!
LOL Can't argue with this one.

[CheshireEyes]

Christianity is a lie.

everything is a lie

[Stormbeard]

everything is a lie
You're a lie

[CheshireEyes]

You're a lie

now you're learning....._inabox_

[Rosetta Morrigan]

It seems to me the majority of humanity is practising Satanism nowadays without even realising it!!! lol:T

[Stormbeard]

It seems to me the majority of humanity is practising Satanism nowadays without even realising it!!! lol:T
You're not far wrong, but it goes deeper than that.

Satanism isn't the ignorant self worship of the modern day. It is in fact striking a balance between the beast of man and man himself.

[DoktorSick]

Satanism is basically Levay's take on humanism.
Don't get me wrong levay had some good points especially
the whole yankee rose thing.
But if you look at christianty at what it really about and not
what christian claims it's about .Just about anyone could come up
with the basic concepts of the satanic statements.
i don't see what the big deal is.

[PrincessKLS]

No offense but isn't LeVayan, supposed to LeVeyan?

Growing up I thought Satanism was evil but as I grow up and read about it, I think about how real Satanism isn't really all that bad. I mean we all possess these qualities to some extent and in a way modern Christianity has embraced Satanic ideals.

[Eternal Night]

No offense but isn't LeVayan, supposed to LeVeyan?

Growing up I thought Satanism was evil but as I grow up and read about it, I think about how real Satanism isn't really all that bad. I mean we all possess these qualities to some extent and in a way modern Christianity has embraced Satanic ideals.

Actually it's LaVeyan

And yeah well Christianity embracing Satanic ideas now thats funny.
Just goes to show that God has to adapt and how hypocritical Christianity really can be.

[PrincessKLS]

Well there's a lot of selfish Christians out there.

[Eternal Night]

Well there's a lot of selfish Christians out there.

Then they aren't true Christians are they?

[PrincessKLS]

Hmm, who knows.

[Eternal Night]

Hmm, who knows.


The Bible

[_Mo_]

If anybody wants to elaborate on the second one listed (2. Satan represents vital existence instead of spiritual pipe dreams!), I'd be very appreciative! Maybe it's the wording, maybe it's the concept, but I don't really know what this one is about...

[Bettie]

If anybody wants to elaborate on the second one listed (2. Satan represents vital existence instead of spiritual pipe dreams!), I'd be very appreciative! Maybe it's the wording, maybe it's the concept, but I don't really know what this one is about...

I think it's basically to do with Satanism representing truth, and living your life as it is now, as you see fit, not based on the christian idea of good deeds now = rewards in the afterlife. It means living your life the way you want to, not because some higher power decreed that you must do this or that, and certainly not because you fear some kind of cosmic retribution if you don't. It means do what you think is right, and think for yourself, not rely on a deity/clergy/higher power to tell you what is right or wrong.

[_Mo_]

Bah! Gorgeous! That's just grand, that right there is what my spirit's been looking for my entire life. I knew other people thought like that but I never saw it in writing, and it's comforting to see it. Wicked, thanks so much for "translating" that for me! :)

[Bettie]

Bah! Gorgeous! That's just grand, that right there is what my spirit's been looking for my entire life. I knew other people thought like that but I never saw it in writing, and it's comforting to see it. Wicked, thanks so much for "translating" that for me! :)

No worries! :thumbsup:

[Rosselin]

in all honesty mate, all religions are a lie, but, they all also bare some truth as well. its not our fault some religious fundaMENTALists seem to think their way is the "right" way. i spose when they die and see me in hell theyll realize how wrong they were!!:lol:[/quote]

okay, i have to high five this one!

anyway, back to satan. I agree with some of the earlier posts. If you really look at Christian texts and legend/myth, Satan was originally just an archangel who went on a power trip. and yes, if i were the highest archangel and then got kicked out of heaven with no chance of return, i would probably be pissed off too.

The christian concept of Satan is rather warped in my opinion. Someone has to rule hell. might as well be someone with no chance of getting out of there. I dont think he quite deserves the bad rep he gets and quite frankly I will thoroughly enjoy those things which mean i am human and which satan supposedly 'represents'.