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Hope
July 20th, 2007, 04:07 PM
People seem to have strong opinions about money and how it applies to divination
(reminder respect is EXPECTED at MW that means of everyones opinions).

Some people say that when you charge for divination it is a bad thing, some say look you are just paying for a service.

Some people believe when the focus is on earning money to pay the bills with the service that is bad.

Some think that even when you take a forum like MW and include the money aspect it changes the energies in a negative way.

So how about it cash exchanged for divination? Good or Bad and Why?

Cash involved in other pagan/witch/wiccan/dragon/etc. pursuits? Good or Bad and Why?

love
t

TheWomanMonster
July 20th, 2007, 04:14 PM
*gets ready for the flaming arrows*

Although I wouldn't ever charge for a reading...
I don't have any qualms about accepting payment.
I think that money makes the physical world go around and so if you can profit from your gifts without taking advantage of people it's perfectly fair.

that's just me though, lets hear from the rest.

Rick
July 20th, 2007, 11:17 PM
I've been a Paid Professional for about 15 years now.

Betcha can guess where I stand on this question... :hehehehe:

SilverClaw
July 21st, 2007, 01:19 AM
Over the years my views were one way and then sort of changed. Even though I have been doing tarot ( almost 12 years) And Runes ( about 10) and other forms for awhile I do not feel I would do a reading for payment , *trades yes but not payment ... But then again who knows maybe I am just saying that cause I am concerned I am not good enough and once I get reconnected I will think differently. I use to think that your gifts should not be used to profits

There are some I think that charge way to much for a reading but I guess to each their own. I think if your going to charge it has to be reasonable pricing.


* what I mean by trade not something the person has to do but if he wants to do. An example for me is a reading I had done at a cafe. The agreement was if I had the money to buy a cup of coffee that is all he would ask in exchange for the reading. Since I did have the $1.25 I did not mind, especially since a former friend was charging $50 dollers for her readings. Even though in my casae so far I have not asked for anything like he has, I certainly would not object to a gift in exchange for a reading. Provided it was not to much.

hope that made sense.
..

Hope
July 21st, 2007, 12:53 PM
i think for me i am good when it is an exchange

like rick i have used my skills, and traded them for compensation for many years

and in fact see no evil in it, in fact i think often that it is seen in much the same way as a christian minister, is "to make no real money" for serving the flock

umm hello if you want to retain good folks, they need to have some compensation to live, regardless of topic

my problem is when the cash becomes the focus, instead of the divination/service etc

going back to my previous example, televangelists that live in HUGE houses, and take more and more from the poor

or the person who does readings, and at the last moment reveals something where you need to pay more

when the focus is on income, and not where (imo) it belongs on what you are giving or serving, is the only time it becomes a problem

make sense?

love
t

Hope
July 21st, 2007, 12:55 PM
Over the years my views were one way and then sort of changed. Even though I have been doing tarot ( almost 12 years) And Runes ( about 10) and other forms for awhile I do not feel I would do a reading for payment , *trades yes but not payment ... But then again who knows maybe I am just saying that cause I am concerned I am not good enough and once I get reconnected I will think differently. I use to think that your gifts should not be used to profits


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is it also not a trade, when you go to the store and trade a dollar bill for a candy bar?

or a trade when you go to the specialty store, and trade a hundred dollar bill, for a hand made baby quilt?

love
t

Rick
July 21st, 2007, 01:28 PM
my problem is when the cash becomes the focus, instead of the divination/service etc
<snip>
the person who does readings, and at the last moment reveals something where you need to pay more
I know those people. Unfortunately, I also know "reading junkies", people that start calling their psychic as soon as they wake up in the morning (literally). They seem to attract each other. I've never had any real sort of steady clientele... I seem to answer all their questions, & then they rarely or never come back :hehehehe: . And I HATE reading for "reading junkies".

is it also not a trade, when you go to the store and trade a dollar bill for a candy bar?

or a trade when you go to the specialty store, and trade a hundred dollar bill, for a hand made baby quilt?
THANK YOU!

Hope
July 21st, 2007, 02:48 PM
nods reading junkies lol, i hear ya

is today a good day to go grocery shopping
i was invited to a party, i have a bad feeling but should i go

laughs



i think many times, people forget that when they are in an energy exchange, reading exchange, that what they are giving is of value

and often is a reason folks are unsure of taking something in exchange

love
t

SilverClaw
July 21st, 2007, 02:59 PM
is it also not a trade, when you go to the store and trade a dollar bill for a candy bar?

or a trade when you go to the specialty store, and trade a hundred dollar bill, for a hand made baby quilt?

love
t
True but when I do reading if a person wants to give me something for a reading that is up to them I do not expect it or ask for it. That is where my difference is .





Originally Posted by Hope [original] (http://www.mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?p=3185920#post3185920)

my problem is when the cash becomes the focus, instead of the divination/service etc
<snip>
the person who does readings, and at the last moment reveals something where you need to pay more
Yeo that is a problem I have and had with a former friend who charged 50 dollers a reading, and from what I heard from various people her readings were always negative and well Nasty lol.



I also know "reading junkies", people that start calling their psychic as soon as they wake up in the morning (literally). I know that in person and online here, even in this forum, I tell people that I will do a reading for them again in a months time if they want ... if they do come back before then I just say no. I find here in the forum especially the tarot forum that if people do not like that they find someone else to do a reading.... But what gets me is if they ask the exact same question you already did a reading for them not even a few days before... I feel very angered by that because I feel they just wasted my time and energy.

Hope
July 21st, 2007, 04:36 PM
I know what ya mean, about being annoyed when people are not really listening to a reading, instead searching and searching for a person to say what they WANT to hear lol

like yes you will become a spoiled rich princess, and the world will love you, and it will fall in your lap

instead of umm yeah you need to look for a JOB lol

love
t

SilverClaw
July 21st, 2007, 05:00 PM
I know what ya mean, about being annoyed when people are not really listening to a reading, instead searching and searching for a person to say what they WANT to hear lol

like yes you will become a spoiled rich princess, and the world will love you, and it will fall in your lap

instead of umm yeah you need to look for a JOB lol

love
t Lol yes exactly :) Some people just do not like what they are told because in some cases they know what the reading says is true, but deny it anyways lol. Sad state but ya it happens :hahugh:

LisaT4P
July 22nd, 2007, 11:50 AM
I have no problem with charging for readings. I have had a business in the past and enjoyed doing the readings for people, and the focus was ALWAYS on providing a good service, otherwise... why would anyone WANT to pay me?

I haven't charged in a long time. Most of my readings lately have been on MW and for the Spread of the Week. I enjoy that and although the exchange is not monetary, an exchange still exists. I expect good feedback and try to provide it in return.

I don't do other readings often, because I feel like people don't really respect a "free" reading. Other tarot readers tend to, but most people who don't do divination just don't understand the amount of time, energy & effort goes into performing a good reading. So, rather than waste my energy, I just don't do them! LOL

There are a few notable exceptions to that rule, and when they PM me I always read for them. I enjoy being able to help out my friends. :)

SilverClaw
July 22nd, 2007, 12:22 PM
I don't do other readings often, because I feel like people don't really respect a "free" reading. Other tarot readers tend to, but most people who don't do divination just don't understand the amount of time, energy & effort goes into performing a good reading. So, rather than waste my energy, I just don't do them! LOL First off Lisa I always have and do apprecie over the years the readings you have done for me. I also agree some people just have no concept of what goes into a reading and how phsyically, emotionally, and spiritually draining it can all be.

LisaT4P
July 22nd, 2007, 04:04 PM
Exactly, hon! You are always one of the people I will read for, and always glad to help. :hugz:

SwordsFlameSong
July 24th, 2007, 05:14 PM
I am, personally, not comfortable with charging money myself. If someone wants to pay me I tell them a cup of Starbuck's brewed coffee is always welcome. I work relatively cheap. ;0)LOL

As for others charging. I am torn. I knew a person who, frankly, is a charlatan andcharge huges amounts of money for divination. Including close to 100 bucks to do a pet reading. Not to mention each "reading' (in general) always lead to more readings.

I have also known legit who charge money and I see no harm in that.

So I guess my opinion depends upon whether I feel the person who is doing the divination is honorable. Sadly, amongst all the honorable ones there are a few of the charalatans who create a bad rap for all the legit ones. :(

Siafu
August 2nd, 2007, 11:11 AM
I am not very experienced with this, but if I were to go to someone for a reading and they wanted some form of compensation; why not? Of course I would feel more comfortable if they expected payment after the reading as apposed to before. I would also check around and try to make sure it's not a scam. That they actually know what they are talking about.

A skill is a skill is a skill and people should be compensated for it, IMHO. Though I would also be cautious about how other's may down your practice because you charge a fee. Some may feel it's a "rip off" because all you are looking for is money and "it's not real anyway".

I think if you can overcome that, there is nothing wrong with charging; just be fair. And for those who cannot "afford" it, help them out. It shows that you are not just all about the money and are more concerned about the person. Like any business.

And for those close friends, maybe that cup of coffee will suffice ;-)

Siafu