TerminallyUnique
August 20th, 2007, 07:38 PM
Could anyone give me a broad interpretation (i.e. the extremely obscure) of the prevalence of spiders in ones dreams or indeed the waking world?
from the mundane to extreme , into unlikelyhood if you understand.
I wish to disclose no more at present, but am at a loss myself.
So I would welcome some honest input,
ta
M
Hope
August 20th, 2007, 09:56 PM
lessons of creativity
the woven fabric of our life, time, space
links to past and future
those are what i see in spiders...
time to look for balance ...
does that help??
love
t
TheWomanMonster
August 20th, 2007, 10:31 PM
I've known several people who have had Spiders as a totem or messenger.
When you start having a sign or symbol appear to you in both dreams and reality it's a real eye opener.
Usually it's a good time to take a look at the creature (or symbol as it were) and see what you can learn that you could apply to your life.
To elaborate on what Hope mentioned; for me Spiders also mean destiny, like the Norns weaving our fates, they weave their webs. Influencing events... it acts as a sign to take a look at your life, what things you can control and alter and what things you cannot.
Hope
August 20th, 2007, 10:33 PM
Usually it's a good time to take a look at the creature (or symbol as it were) and see what you can learn that you could apply to your life.
mmmhmmm, nods, yes, what she said :)
love
t
TerminallyUnique
August 20th, 2007, 11:17 PM
thank you.
the presence seems implicit, it knows I know.
I see it as another, found wires to flit upon.
I see it as an innocent.
it explores into my welcome and kindness,
but I grow extremely tiresome of intrusion.
and I do not want to eradicate it utterly.
that is what I am currently seeing
but, there's something else,
something else I don't see,
it may be important, and thats why I ask for , that which you may not otherwise consider..
all d best
TheWomanMonster
August 20th, 2007, 11:38 PM
It's trying to tell you something for sure...
I hope you can find the answer soon and have peace of mind.
I understand how these figures and symbols can plague you.
Teresa
August 21st, 2007, 12:46 AM
http://www.mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?t=104917
Read thru this hope it helps!
Amythyst
August 21st, 2007, 08:23 AM
The archetype of the spider has a long history in human consciousness. In Greek mythology, Arachne was a mortal weaver who challenged Minerva to a contest of weaving. Arachne's skill was marvelous, both in product and in the act of weaving. She carried the sin of hubris, and paid the price for it. A mortal cannot be as good as the gods, the myth goes, and she was going to be destroyed for her arrogance. However, since her skill nearly matched Minerva's, she was transformed into a spider. (Bullfinch's Mythology) Celtic legend tells of prisoners who take the lesson of patience and persistence from spiders, who rebuild their webs daily when they are torn down. Native American symbolism sees the spider archetype as the keeper of the past and its connection to the future. (Animal-Speak, Ted Andrews) "In India the spider is the weaver of the web of Maya, illusion. In her web she stands as the center of the world. In her spinning of the web and devouring her prey she parallels the waxing and waning of the Moon, involution and evolution, the alternation of birth and death. The spider, as the Moon, then weaves the destiny of everything in the world." (http://www.choronzon.com/tocmirror/tzimon/Magidict/magdic20.html) The threads of the spider are part of every culture, interpreted in many ways. Spider is the symbol of Fate, the weaver of the past into the future, a teacher, a destroyer, even a trickster.
What does the spider archetype mean in dreams? According to http://www.thecrypt.ca/realm/divin/dreamd_s.shtml, dreams about spiders mean that, "The spider is usually symbolic of an unkind and sneaky individual. Are you the spider building a web, or are you being dragged into one? A spider's web represent[s] entanglement and the general complexities of life. Depending on the details of the dream, it could also be symbolic of a smothering individual in your daily life." In my own spider dreams, I don't find this to be the case. Usually, they are more consistent with Carl Jung's interpretation (also from thecrypt.ca), "a symbol of wholeness due to its circular shape. He called circular symbols 'mandalas' and said that they had valuable meaning for the dreamer. The spider and his web may be calling for an integration of the dream[er]'s personality leading to greater self-awareness and resulting in feelings of completeness. Therefore, the spider and his web may be considered profound and spiritual dream symbols which call for greater self-understanding and encourage us to derive meaning and satisfaction from the intricate framework and interplay of life." Spiders, to me, have represented a deepening of a sense of connection to the world, a physical and psychological symbol of the "string theory" of quantum mechanics. Everything is, in some way, connected.
This is a simplification of the many ways that the spider archetype may be seen, though. In interpreting dreams, the dreamer is the best source for the answers. How the archetype is perceived by the dreamer has as much to with how it should be interpreted as the generalizations; to one person, the spider might symbolize a fear of becoming trapped in a negative situation (being "caught in a web," as they say), while another person might see the spider as a connecting agent, a symbol of a need for integration, of the Self or into an environment (social, familial, physical, etc). What is happening around the dreamer in waking life will influence the archetypes that appear in dreams, and how their meanings are manifested. In my own experience, when my life has undergone a massive and turbulent change, spiders have appeared as malevolent creatures, attacking and feeding on me. This symbolizes the perception that my energies (life-force, if you will) were being drained by outside sources, and the feelings of entrapment and helplessness that surrounded them. When the spider archetype has manifested in a less threatening way, it was usually a symbol of connection and reconnection, with people, places, memories, the world outside of myself, a weaving together of the positive things in my life.
Other interpretations of the spider symbol in dreams include (from http://www.soulfuture.com/dream_dictionary/symbols_s/spider_dream_dictionary.asp): "the number 8, heightened sensitivity, tuning into your awareness, being industrious or helpful, irrational or hidden fears and phobias, patience, balance, fear, being bitten by a spider may symbolize holding others responsible for your stagnation." The number eight is interesting to me, since I use the spider symbol integrated with the infinity symbol (an "8" on its side). The spider's web holds infinite possibilities, patterns, and connections.
If you want to read more, go to:
http://spiderdreams.tripod.com/spiderdreams.html
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