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Theres
May 29th, 2002, 01:45 PM
it was on this day in 1953 that Edmund Hilary conquered the summit of Mt. Everest for the first time, over 29000 feet above sea level!.
he would later be knighted for this accomplishment.
but what alot of people don't know is that Aliester Crowley, a noted mountain climber, had attempted a similar feat in 1905!
Crowley's party climbed Kangchenjunga, a nearby peak of 'only' 28000 feet (slightly shorter than both Everest and K2), because the locals considered it to be the 'Home of the Gods'. in fact officials there made the party swear that they would NOT stand at the absolute summit, out of respect. it seems unlikely that our friend Mr. Crowley had any intention of honoring this request, but we will never know.
the party ran into trouble at 21000 feet when one member died. political bickering led to the party being divided in their loyalties between Crowley and Jacot Guillarmod. the majority followed Guillarmod when he decided that the expedition was over and that they should return. then disaster struck! four men were left dangling on a rope after a bad slip during the descent. an avalanche ensued, burying some of the party. the rest (except for Crowley!) hurried to the scene to help, but Crowley, perhaps still stinging from his ego conflict with Guillarmod, turned over in his tent and went back to sleep!
he made the descent alone the next day while his comrades dug furiously to retrieve their friends bodies!
abominable behavior, no doubt.
but lost in the story is the fact that at 21000 feet up the side of the third highest mountain in the world, Crowley and the rest of the party had set the world's record for the highest climb (without oxygen!), a record that would stand for over thirty years!
Kangchenjunga was finally topped in 1955 by Sir Charles Evans, who promised NOT to scale the final few feet. and that promise has been kept by every expedition to the summit since then.

for more on Hilary's famous expedition, go here... http://www.thehistorychannel.com/tdih/index.html

Danustouch
May 29th, 2002, 01:51 PM
Wow...I never knew that! Thanks, Greenman!

Azure
June 2nd, 2002, 12:16 PM
Detailed in lawrence Sutin's very good Crowley bio, Do What Thou Wilt. If you're interested in the real Crowley, I really recommend this book.

Thanks for the link, Greenman!

Mythrel
June 7th, 2002, 05:44 AM
really interesting stuff...I should check out this forum more often...thanks Greenman

Xander67
June 7th, 2002, 10:11 PM
Azure is right on! :thumbsup:

I have Crowley's book "Magick" or also known as Liber ABA (book 4)

which is a compilation of the four voulumes:

1. Mysticism
2. Magick(elementary theory)
3. Magick in Practice and Theory
4. The Law

it is edited by Hymenaeus Beta , Frater Superior, O.T.O
and he also give a very thorough bio on Crowley and it is Endorsed by the O.T.O

Xander67
June 8th, 2002, 10:53 AM
While we are on the subject of Crowley, it is also noteworthy to mention that he was a 33 degree mason, this degree is conferred very seldom and is considered by some to be the highest degree within the order..

Xander67
June 15th, 2002, 09:51 AM
and also it is important to point out that Some People consider Crowley to have been a Satanist, this is totally not true...

Unlce Al was a Thelmist and according to their beliefs they do not belive in the existance of the devil :)

Theres
June 15th, 2002, 12:25 PM
i wouldn't say that it was "totally" not true. Uncle Al drew from many things, and Thelema was certainly one. but i don't think he was too concerned with any dogma, provided there was something to be taken from it. and this includes Satanism. however, in would be inaccurate to label him a Satanist.
and i'm not so sure he was too terribly bothered about the Thelemites either. did you know that in the later years of his life, he actually sold initiations for drug money? certainly not the actions of a purist!

Xander67
July 7th, 2002, 01:11 PM
:) bump

:wave:

peekaboo Ankh, me see you :cool:

kblackthorne
July 11th, 2002, 02:30 PM
Perhaps he figured anyone willing to "buy initiation" deserved what they got? (He was a bit of a cynic, after all.)

Xander67
July 11th, 2002, 08:05 PM
I wouldnt say he was a Cynic,

why do you think that?

kblackthorne
July 25th, 2002, 11:58 PM
Xander,

Not ignoring you -- just been on Vacation.

Give me a chance to check my sources & I'll be back with you.

Danustouch
August 3rd, 2003, 09:48 AM
*bump*

Xander67
August 5th, 2003, 08:02 PM
:) ahhh, welcome back Uncle AL!

SylverStar
August 6th, 2003, 12:47 AM
Thanks this interesting