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Ganga
June 4th, 2002, 02:49 PM
What do you think about this article titled "Exodus Plagues Illustrate God's Attitude Toward Idolatry":

http://www.raidersnewsupdate.com/exodus.htm

I deliberately blasphemes what x-tians call "idolatres".

Grrr.

Ganga
June 4th, 2002, 03:24 PM
Now when I have calmed a bit...

First, I apologize for the spelling mistake: I meant to say "It deliberately", not "I".

Second, another reason for posting this link is that despite its blaphemous attitude, it is still full of interesting information about the symbolism of the Bible, and of the ancient Egyptian culture/religion. The plagues (whether they really happened or not) were all different symbolic ways to make a sacrilege of something religiously significant. For example, Nile was a sacred river, and it was turned to blood. If these things had happened in India, the upstarts would have tried to turn Ganges into pus, and they would have smeared cow's blood on their doorposts (instead of sheep's, which was a sacred animal to the Egyptians) to protect themselves from the last plague.

it is sad that the emphasis of the Exodus-myth is on Yahweh's jealousy. I wish people had stopped for a while to think that the main moral of the story is that no matter how religious you are, Gods are not going to help you if you treat your fellow human beings badly (by enslaving them).

Myst
June 4th, 2002, 03:31 PM
I believe this would be better discussed in our History forum. Please PM me if that's a problem :)

Ganga
June 4th, 2002, 03:55 PM
No problem, Myst! I found my way here (to my solitary discussion...)

Another, better, web-site on the same topic, without preaching.

http://www.cbhs.org/bberretta/Out_of_the_Chaos/ten_plagues/status.htm

jelly.belly
June 4th, 2002, 06:25 PM
gggggggggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

*throws a vase across the room*

"I was fasting and praying for the salvation of a member of my wife's family when suddenly the image of a frog appeared to my mind’s eye. The vision startled me because it was unexpected and powerful. No matter how I tried, I could not shake the uncanny feeling that a "frog" was resisting my prayer. It had the appearance of a typical river frog, but it stared at me as if to warn me that I had wandered into its "territory" and that it was fully intending to defend its position within the life of the person for whom I was praying. After a while it became obvious that whatever or whoever the frog creature was, it was not going away, and so I rebuked it "in the name of Jesus," and it immediately vanished! Some time later I was amazed to discover that certain demons can appear in the images of frogs. [...]To the ancient Egyptians, however, frogs were sacred animals, and, ultimately, the infants of the frog-goddess Heka."

gggggggggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr *takes another vase and throws it across the room too*

Sorry, but that had to come out! I mean come on!!! Does he think people are like stupid or something, I'm really frustrated here!!! Why does he have to bring down the Egyptians, who, btw are great people, just to make his religion look good??? :flamer: I absolutly HATE it when people do that!!!! U have NO idea of what state of mind I'm in right now and how much i wanna kick his soory little @$$!!!!!!!!!! Sorry, but it just frustrates me, I so wanna write him a letter to tell him how i feel right now!!!!!!!! If anyone know how to, please tell me!!!#

Ganga
June 5th, 2002, 08:59 AM
Oops. I'm sorry if I was the cause of wrecking your house (and all those vases...) by posting the link. My initial reaction was VERY similar (I still have a few flowerpots left, though). Writing a letter to him sounds like a good idea.

I've been reading on Egyptian mythology lately, and feel very connected to Hathor. Cow is a very sacred animal to me, so she is obviously my favorite :-)

Danustouch
June 5th, 2002, 09:11 AM
The "Watch Tower" which is the Jehovah's witness magazine often prints articles like this. One year, while doing my laundry, a Jehovah's witness came into the laundromat and handed me a copy which read "Native American Cultures: Their dying legacy due to their rejection of Jesus Christ". I was furious, and took the thing right outside in front of the individual who had given it to me, and lit it on fire right in front of her. Then I told her.."You picked the wrong person to hand that to. I'm part native american.". Her face was rather pale....as I recall.

Ganga
June 5th, 2002, 09:43 AM
Danustouch! Now I know what to do next time.

The stupidity of these blasphemers never ceases to amaze me. The way Hinduism was (and still often is) depicted by x-tians is also very offensive. I could go on forever on this topic...

Danustouch
June 5th, 2002, 10:34 AM
Hmmmmm..well..the usage of the term "Blasphemer" kinda irks me. I may not agree with alot of what these people say, but...I wouldn't call them blasphemers. To do so implies that you're right, and they are wrong...(oversimplification). In other words, Fundamentalist Christians use that term about us. So..I'm not comfortable with using that term to define those who do not agree with Pagan paths. In my opinion..their God, and their beliefs are every bit as valid as ours. I don't have to like it...and sometimes, it really peeves me off, as in that case I mentioned..but they are their beliefs. I just didn't like being interruppted in the middle of doing my laundry by some piece of hate propaganda about people who are part of my blood.

Ganga
June 5th, 2002, 04:00 PM
Well, perhaps the word blasphemers has a fundamental christian flavour. When I used it, however, I simply meant that they make fun of and ridicule people who believe differently than they do. I agree that they have every right to believe the way they like and that God does hear their prayers, too. But perhaps the term (blasphemer) is a bit outdated.

Kalosi
June 5th, 2002, 05:46 PM
Maybe I should not have eaten before logging on, because now I feel sick! I did learn a lot about the Egyptian culture, though, once I could start skipping over the rhetoric. How can a religion that wants you to love your fellow man preach such hatred? Did anyone else catch "gleeful" and "smug" from the author's emotions? I think I need to brush my teeth, because that left a foul taste in my mouth.

jelly.belly
June 5th, 2002, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by Danustouch
The "Watch Tower" which is the Jehovah's witness magazine often prints articles like this. One year, while doing my laundry, a Jehovah's witness came into the laundromat and handed me a copy which read "Native American Cultures: Their dying legacy due to their rejection of Jesus Christ". I was furious, and took the thing right outside in front of the individual who had given it to me, and lit it on fire right in front of her. Then I told her.."You picked the wrong person to hand that to. I'm part native american.". Her face was rather pale....as I recall.

I SO understand u, a part of why I'm so frustrated is the fact that I'm part Egyptian-the other part's Greek-and it's just annoying to see stuff like that... I've been studying the old Egyptian myths and legends and I just think they are beautiful, it's just stupid to do stuff like that! NO religion should do something like that! If you just can't understand the beauty of a religion or of these people, then you should leave it alone!!!