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Hope
October 17th, 2007, 05:28 PM
This week a bit different:
At what age should you start talking to kids/teaching kids about:
dreams, and inter of them
divination techniques?
love
t
aranarose
October 17th, 2007, 05:30 PM
I began teaching my son how to read Tarot at about the age of five. I used the Whimsical Tarot. At 10 he is now quite the capable reader.
HedwigHarfang
October 17th, 2007, 06:56 PM
At what age should you start talking to kids/teaching kids about:
dreams, and inter of them
As soon as they start being able to remember and talk about their dreams, and to write them down. I woke my children up to dreaming when they were six or seven and could cope with the idea that life was magickal and that inside they were two little seagulls come to play as human beings for a while. The only problem was the getting the guano out of the carpets, but they could handle that idea better as young children and get used to it.
Louise on the other hand was never told about her dreams being anything other than Luther's "traume sind schaume" (dreams are fluff), but wrote almost all of them down after about the age of 12 or 13, and remembers a few vivid ones from her childhood, which is why she always was shy of people who looked like me :) because she always dreamed about being with me as her soul-mate. She remembers hiding from a local hotelier that her parents knew because subconsciously she recognised me - he looked like me - and even though she never saw me consciously in her dreams until 1997, she "knew" that the "Mr Whoheard" in her dreams wasn't her dad but going to be her husband one day, so she was always somewhat shy of Mr Fernandez in real life. So even if we don't remember our dreams, they always have some bearing on real life, and the more children understand the better, and the younger they understand the better.
divination techniques?
Again, it varies, but I would say as old as they need to be to handle the idea of using their dreams to explore themselves as people and (in Nicholas' and Larissa's case) the spirits and souls of birds as well. I'd not let children use tarot cards or other oracles without supervision, but the earlier you start teaching your children that life is there to be lived, explored and dare I say it worshipped, the better. Louise was 26 when she started properly exploring her dreams as clairvoyant experiences and using tarot; but then she didn't grow up as my daughter but as someone wholly separate (for safety's sake she had to :help: I couldn't even sign her autograph book when she was invited to a political reception I was at...it was far too unsafe until this year to even meet her to discuss a wonderful paper she wrote, and that is when I told her who I was to her and who I was going to be to her), so she was bound to have had different experiences to my own children even though she is actually a year or two younger than my youngest :).
LisaT4P
October 17th, 2007, 07:43 PM
As soon as they show an interest!
My daughter had her first tarot deck around 10 years old, she was't very responsible with it and lost some of the cards, but she enjoyed looking @ the pics. It was a Hanson Roberts. She now has a Manga and she's much better about caring for it (she's 13 now).
The boys haven't shown an interest in divination yet, but they do enjoy telling me about their dreams.
TheWomanMonster
October 17th, 2007, 07:46 PM
This week a bit different:
At what age should you start talking to kids/teaching kids about:
dreams, and inter of them
divination techniques?
love
t
I haven't had children yet, but with the wee-ones I interact with I have taught them simple things about dreaming as young as 4 or 5.
Divination techniques have not yet come up with any of them... I myself learned at about 13 how to use a pendulum so I'd likely teach my children at ages of around 10 or older what divination is and the many ways it can be done.
Dreams I've talked about symbols with some kids I've been around. When they had sad dreams I told them that sometimes dreams about sad things are practice so you know how you'd feel in real life, or mean that there might be changes in their life, but that they don't need to be worried about them. I've helped little ones with nightmares before learn how to 'lucid' dream to an extent, where they can control the nightmare and shape the dream to their liking instead.
I look forward to having children of my own someday, and their dreams are always so vivid so it's wonderful to hear them.
Lady Aeris
October 17th, 2007, 08:09 PM
im not a mother, but should i ever be i will start young- i want it to be something that's natural to them- a major part of their growth..
divination, i'll have to consult with friends haha but probably by 5ish- that's a prime age, right? but it'll be kept simple. once they get older, i'll teach them everything (maybe 13 or 14) as kind of a right of passage thing. I dont know though, my having kids is shaky but i do love to teach children and hope some day to be a mentor or something of the sort.
SwordsFlameSong
October 18th, 2007, 06:17 AM
When they show an interest.
For example, my auburn haired eight year old imp. She conned me out of my art noveau tarot deck when she was 4. She would look at each card and make up "stories" about them.
In the intervening years she has snookered me out of three tarot decks (again she describes the cards and "makes up stories" - which are pretty close to the meanings), one set of clay runes, too many stones and crystals to count, one crystal quartz pendulum, one rose quartz pendulum.........
She also refers to herself, with a very solemn look in the big brown peepers as "a witchling in training".
She helps me with oil concoctions. She also has her own mortal and pestle and will, now and then pull herbs out (under mommy's watchful eye) to create sleeping herb bags and anti nightmare bags. She sat there one night with our cat Celtic, staring at the full moon out the patio door - talking and snuggling - and later proclaimed the cat her familiar...... I didn't teach her the last at all.
First pic is her familiar and the second is her still in her fairy paint from Halloween a year ago....
People meet her and think she has a bit of the fey in her.
PS. I had to quit using pine sol and those kind of cleaners as Celtic is addicted to the scent of pine and would roll in it after cleaning - and then get high like she was snorting catnip.....
PS 2. She has a fairy house in her room - ever since she could start talking she would talk about the 'little people with wings" and giggle.
I also caught her doing "little rituals" where she will cast a circle with a wand I made her and then "think" about what is bothering her. The stinker is already doing meditation..... And is out to get her fourth tarot deck - my Sacred Circle. Which she isn't getting btw.
Hope
October 18th, 2007, 11:47 AM
thanks everyone for your answers so far, and thanks to for the pic share
she is a cutie
I agree with the when they show an interest, for me my children were part of me and what I was doing from birth. Including my daughter being born during the legislative session, and coming with mom at just a few days old and nursing to work at the capitol.
Just like my children learned th marble columns were part of where they were comfy, or the train park hiding places were theirs; they have learned comfort around things like casting, cording, energy work, cards, stones, oils the whole nine yards and more.
laughs my answers for when are they are born, and then as they show interest. After all if divination is part of your daily life, they are going to see it from an early age...(cough in the womb cough cough)
love
t
SwordsFlameSong
October 18th, 2007, 12:22 PM
When people ask her if she is named after the Fleetwood Mac song Rhiannon she says, "No. I 'am named after the Celtic Goddess Rhiannon. You do know there are goddesses right?" <cough cough>
Hope
October 18th, 2007, 01:08 PM
lmao
exactly! the stuff they pick up on all topics, so fast :)
lol
love
t
SwordsFlameSong
October 18th, 2007, 05:23 PM
There is a completely different slant to working with children and divination - or any of the pagan arts Now, if I go and take it off topic - yet again - I apologize.
It's the innocence and complete lack of pretension in what they do. We, as adults, let ourselves get mired down with daily complexities. We get tainted by logic (nothing wrong with logic mind you). ...
But kids..... Well kids just see what is natural. They don't question whether this or that is feasible. They don't concern themselves with, whether or not, this is acceptable in society.
They are so open to learning and new experiences and everything is fresh. You can see so much through the eyes of a child. My daughter, telling her little stories about each tarot card gave me fresh insight.
We talk about the gifts we can give our children. We talk about what we can teach them and how we can guide them on this path of spirituality and life. I think we do our children a disservice when we don't acknowledge what we can learn from them.
So yes I can teach my daughter about herbs and oils and tarot. She is teaching me to look at tools and things I have done for years, in a different light. And I don't know which of us is the richer for it.
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