The Multiverse

[Dante W.]

Alright, this is a question that is really bothering me. Some say there's a multiverse, including our universe. But im not completely convinced. I know its possible, but my real question is: If there is a multiverse, does that mean that there are people that are suppose to be us in the other universes?

Dante

[Infinite Grey]

Alright, this is a question that is really bothering me. Some say there's a multiverse, including our universe. But im not completely convinced. I know its possible, but my real question is: If there is a multiverse, does that mean that there are people that are suppose to be us in the other universes?

Dante

Possibly, possibly not.

[WokeUpDead]

It just means all the other universes may have completely different laws of physics and strange properties that don't exist in this one. They might not even be suitable for life as we know it. Or some could be similar with similar versions of us. Or similiar with nothing like us at all.

[Heart of All]

I think I saw on the Discovery Channel that some scientists believe that gravity is actually not a force from our universe, but a carryover from another universe. Craziness!

[Xentor]

does that mean that there are people that are suppose to be us in the other universes?

No. People that are supposed to be us, are us, and are present in our universe, in our time, in our location.

People in a different universe, a different time, and a different location, are different people and as such, not supposed to be us.

[Myzterio]

No. People that are supposed to be us, are us, and are present in our universe, in our time, in our location.

People in a different universe, a different time, and a different location, are different people and as such, not supposed to be us.
Indeed. What you're thinking is multi-dimensional, Dante. A slight difference in terms, but a huge difference in impacts.

That would be speaking of different 'realities'. That is to say, each individual dimension would have a multi-verse of its own (disregarding those dimensions which would lack these due to differences in the realities).

[Dante W.]

Ah. I understand. But I didnt mean "are supposed to be us" literally. I meant like they were like us, but a completely different person. But oh well, I get the gest of it now. Thank you all :P

[Garm]

Here's the science, if you're up for it

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Many-worlds_interpretation


In layman's terms, this means that there are an infinite number of universes and that everything that could possibly happen in our universe (but doesn't) does happen in another.

I won't pretend my understanding of it goes far past the layman's interpretation

Even if all this gets disproven eventually, it's a great, if overused, literary device

[Dante W.]

Thanks Garm. Much appreciated. I'll look into it. So basically what it means is say I flip a coin and it lands heads up, in that universe it would be tails up. I gets it :P

[Lunacie]

Thanks Garm. Much appreciated. I'll look into it. So basically what it means is say I flip a coin and it lands heads up, in that universe it would be tails up. I gets it :P

Maybe. Or maybe it means it was a dime instead of a quarter that got flipped. :bigblue:

[Garm]

Maybe. Or maybe it means it was a dime instead of a quarter that got flipped. :bigblue:

Blame it on the damn cat

"In Search of Schrodinger's Cat" and "Schrodinger's Cat and the Search for Reality" by John Gribbin are nice accessible introductions to the topic at hand

[Lunacie]

Unless you live in a house where the kids outnumber the cats, and then you blame it on the kids. ;)

[riftdrifter]

within each human, critter, plant. . . life in general, there is an energy or soul, a dot on the grand scheme of things . . . all of these dots are connected like an atom in a molecule, its exists in self and yet is separate from its self while being connected to everything else . . . we are connected to the earth, the earth is connected to the solar system, sol is connected to the milky way, which is connected to the rest of whatever is out there. the elements that we consist of are formed of protons neutrons electrons very basically. Now look at the whole thing in both a scientific and spiritual manner. . . the energy of an awful lot of stuff is there but when theres so much of it that its hard to pick and choose. everything we feel see touch hear and taste is merely a transfer of energy. emotions thoughts feelings ect. are the result of an electrical charge introduced to chemicals to be absorbed by the various tissues and systems . . . its all governed by DNA . . . a fancy term for a map of your personal elements . . . your connection on a molecular level to the rest of the dirt, air, water, and fire . . . the spirit is the anomaly . .. the undefinable charge that simply resides as a symbiont in your body. guiding and fooling the body sometimes at the same time . . . how does it all work . . . so simply and smoothly that unless you really try to sense it you wont . . . what does this all have to do with parallel universes . . . I believe it all has to do with the spirit and its ability to slip in and out of elements . . . to exist with an alone amongst the elements hence the astral self . . . this energy connects you to other selves in other "verses . . . each just another seen or unseen collection of elements existing just as this one in its own way doing as it will do. each just as complex as this if not more or less . . . or perhaps I don't know but logic points this way in my understanding . .. but the idea I'm getting is that these connections exist on an entirely different sort of realm the spirit realm I suppose. . .

[Winter_Witch]

Yea, I remember hearing about this on a TV show once, where there's a mirror-image universe of ours. But that may have to do with time travel or something like that.

I'm not that technical, but it's still fascinating.

[Tiberias]

Alright, this is a question that is really bothering me. Some say there's a multiverse, including our universe. But im not completely convinced. I know its possible, but my real question is: If there is a multiverse, does that mean that there are people that are suppose to be us in the other universes?

Yep. Typically the men have goatees and the women sport bare midriffs. Everybody carries a dagger on their belt.

[Lunacie]

Yep. Typically the men have goatees and the women sport bare midriffs. Everybody carries a dagger on their belt.

That's completely illogical, Jim.

:hahugh:

[C. Iulia Regilia]

My understanding is that our universe bubbled off of another universe at the big bang. So our universe is actually part of something bigger called the multiverse. I think the big difference between our universe and the original multiverse are mostly in the laws of physics, not in the "history" of the universes. It doesn't seem from my understanding of the multiverse that there is another universe in the multiverse in which Hitler won WW2.

The many worlds thing is something different than a universe. I don't get that one at all.

[riftdrifter]

each person has their own universe to themselves each interaction between people creates a multiverse . . . a new one forms or adds and subtracts by degrees or disipates . . . filtering through the connected universe accordingly . . . the whole thing changes with every moment causing each ebon and flow to increase or decrease like siesmagraphs overlaping . . . think auras . . . or . . . air currents . . . all things are the same in that aspect . . . food coloring in water . . . multiverses is just the macro to the micro of personal relationships.
micro>X< macro a base theory of all things . . . microwave to gamma . . . root to crown . . . ect . . .

[riftdrifter]

Each person has their own universe to themselves each interaction between people creates a multiverse . . . a new one forms or adds and subtracts by degrees or disipates . . . filtering through the connected universe accordingly . . . the whole thing changes with every moment causing each ebon and flow to increase or decrease like siesmagraphs overlaping . . . think auras . . . or . . . air currents . . . all things are the same in that aspect . . . food coloring in water . . . multiverses is just the macro to the micro of personal relationships.

[Sequoia]

I just attended a lecture on this at the local university... I'll be honest, a lot of it went over my head (super physics-speak), but the jist I got from it was that there is significant mathematical supportive evidence that there are multiple "universes". This guy (http://scipp.ucsc.edu/~aguirre/Research.html) is studying it quite a bit.

It's not metaphysical mumbo-jumbo. :)

[DoktorSick]

Check out Justice league Crisis on two earths.
The concept is brought through the storyline and gives a example of the concept of multi universes.

[C. Iulia Regilia]

Check out Justice league Crisis on two earths.
The concept is brought through the storyline and gives a example of the concept of multi universes.

It depends. I think what JLC refers to is the Many-Worlds Hypothisis, which is different than the notion of other universes. In multple universes, the idea is that not only does each universe have a separate history and future, but each one has different physics -- different particles, different physical constants, and depending on how you understand it, different physical laws (considering that somehow the primal forces were supposed to have split off from one another), and so on. So not just the JLC but I think there was an old Trek in which an anti-matter guy from one universe was fighting a matter guy from the mundane universe because if the matter universe directly connected to the antimatter universe, there would be neither universe.

It's kinda strange...

[Selah]

I think I saw on the Discovery Channel that some scientists believe that gravity is actually not a force from our universe, but a carryover from another universe. Craziness!


Speaking of "carry over" I read somewhere that the "paranormal activity" we may see or claim to see, could actually just be other living beings supposedly that have somehow crossed over somewhat into our universe supposedly.

It's pretty interesting stuff.