Changing physical features?

[muah]

Do you have any experience changing your physical body using hypnosis or other tools like visualization, LOA or etc. In other words - mind changing the the body.

[BlackLili]

I think I saw that in a movie once.

What was it called?

Oh yeah...

"The Craft" (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115963/)

:crown:

[Kailen]

I somehow get the feeling this post wasn't made to be serious, but more to take the piss. Despite that, I'm going to reply anyway.

There was a news article a few years back about a guy who toned his body through mentally focussing on it, whether it was true or not I couldn't say.

Changing your astral appearance...entirely possible. Depending on the task at hand, I shape my astral appearance into a variety of different things, sometimes shifting in the middle of a task to gain advantage.

[muah]

I'm serious! I know it sounds crazy but I found a lot of information about this on the internet. Guess not enough though. If you don't believe me check the word "Biokinesis" on Google.

[Lunacie]

It does seem a bit "trollish" for a first post in a new forum.

However, we can clearly modify our blood pressure and heart rate by the use of biofeedback or mind control. And it's said that we can use our attitude to fight back against cancer. So it seems just a small leap to consider the possibility of using our minds and emotions to effect other changes in our physical bodies.

Of course it's not as simple as thinking yourself thin, or whatever. It takes quite a bit of practice to use biofeedback effectively.

[Otu]

Body can be changed with enought will, it has also been scientificly tested, could provide a source too if anyone here reads finnish?
I think that atleast part of the idea is that when you want and believe enought into that you will change in a way you want, your subconcious mind will start making your body to do things in slightly different way than usually, to achieve the change.

[mtpathy]

glamour is actually a valid form of magick, unfortunatley the technique to implament such magick is a combination of two paths that did intersect at one time, but are seen as being completely different therfore not complamentry anymore, these two paths would be stage magic, and traditional magick.

ive been speaking with a hawaiian shaman "atlest thats what he proclaims himself as being", and he has said several times that its a old tradition that when a shaman takes a student they would "unknown to the student" partake in shrooms, the teacher would then weave stories of traditional practices,rituals,worship and gods that would take the student outside the reality mindset further. Then others within the village/tribe would dress as these traditional gods and demons, and show themselves to the student upon his spiritual journey to take the student even further outside the realm of reality and into the "spiritual plane".

casting magick through power of persuasion, willfully changing or having the individual doubt there view/understanding of reality is what con artists do, but it imo has a very valid place in the magickal arts although it hasen't become fad enough for people to actually give it any real attention.

this is in no way a attempt to invalidate the practices, if anything i consider this a ingenius technique of forcing a perspective, therfore manipulating a persons perceptions of reality and that is afterall the point of glamour magick, people wanting spells to change there eye color, or to tone up there body is just bullshit and holds no validity within the art of glamour magick.

[Lunacie]

Well, "glamourie" is more like wearing a mask or a costume. I think the OP was asking about making actual physical changes.

[Kailen]

I agree, Lunacie, and as I stated in my first reply, there have been cases where people have toned their body through mental focus rather than physical exertion.

Otu, a source would be great if you have one.

[muah]

I think the OP was asking about making actual physical changes.

Exactly. I thought I'll find much more open minded people here though. But never mind. Maybe it's not the right category.

For those who are interested in the thread I'll post some info.

This is an experiment started few weeks ago. It's about using hypnosis to grow taller, it's just an experiment, no results so far.

http://www.stev (http://www.stevepavlina.com/forums/intention-manifestation/17620-physical-change-hypnosis-experiment.html)epavlina.com/forums/intention-manifestation/17620-physical-change-hypnosis-experiment.html (http://www.stevepavlina.com/forums/intention-manifestation/17620-physical-change-hypnosis-experiment.html)

Then you should check "Biology of belief" by Bruce Lipton. Just google it.

The most intriguing is the research of Dr. Vladimir Poponin (a russian scientist). It's called "Phantom DNA"

http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~sai/DNAPhantom.htm (http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Esai/DNAPhantom.htm)

A lot of information is written about changing the physical body yet there's almost no one who can say he's done it. I think people who accomplish that just don't feel the need of sharing it with others.

[aranarose]

It may be possible, bit it likely would take a great deal of time, and be a very gradual process, just as any normal physical change is. Even when physically doing things to cause that physical change, it takes time. Even surgery doesn't produce instant results.

[muah]

It may be possible, bit it likely would take a great deal of time, and be a very gradual process, just as any normal physical change is. Even when physically doing things to cause that physical change, it takes time. Even surgery doesn't produce instant results.

It should take time of coarse, if we find a way to change things maybe we can find a way to boost the process.

[Lunacie]

It should take time of coarse, if we find a way to change things maybe we can find a way to boost the process.

Many healers have found that way, and what they do is boost the body's natural healing processes. So what you're talking about would seem to be similar in a way.

[Kailen]

Many healers have found that way, and what they do is boost the body's natural healing processes. So what you're talking about would seem to be similar in a way.

That makes sense. I'm thinking it would be a way of targeting specific things with the energy used for healing. You'd need to reawaken certain things both in the body and the mind to start the body growing again.

I'm going to put some thought into this...


Apologies muah for not thinking it was a serious post to begin with.

[muah]

Apologies muah for not thinking it was a serious post to begin with.

It's normal to act that way :thumbsup:

[Otu]

Sorry Kailen and others, can't find the source :ack: maybe they didnt put it online at all (Tieteenkuvalehti or Tiede, can't remember which magazine it was) but seems like muah saved me, lol

[Solya]

Mmm, it's interesting for sure. Power of the mind can achieve a lot of things within, for instance, healing. It would not be a far stretch of the imagination to assume that something similar might one day be achieved with changing one's physical features. Still, we're a long way off from that kind of thing right now... even though obviously we can influence the way we look at our body and the way our body responds to our self-image already...

[muah]

If you find something interesting please post it here and we'll discuss it.

[muah]

I created a place to discuss the topic. If you are interested you're welcome. Please don't delete it, it's not commercial.

http://bodyalter.freeforums.org

[RapidLeona]

It does seem a bit "trollish" for a first post in a new forum.

However, we can clearly modify our blood pressure and heart rate by the use of biofeedback or mind control. And it's said that we can use our attitude to fight back against cancer. So it seems just a small leap to consider the possibility of using our minds and emotions to effect other changes in our physical bodies.

Of course it's not as simple as thinking yourself thin, or whatever. It takes quite a bit of practice to use biofeedback effectively.

Amen to that!

[brymble]

Hypnosis can be and is used to support physical goals such as weight loss, physical healing, posture (including actual height) visibility and attractiveness. Again, it's not a question of "focusing the mind" or "thinking thin". But hypnosis can and is used to uncover the real motivation for weight loss, for example (lots of times goals are not achieved not because the "attitude" but the motivation is unhelpful) or to change limiting beliefs that affect appearance. (If you believe you're ugly, people are going to find you ugly.)

[Happydeadkitty]

Wasn't that what they did in that Heinlin story? A man from Mars aka A Stranger in a Strange Land? That's what I thought of.

I'd like to believe it would be possible, but it would have to someone who "knew" they could do it. Y'know what I mean? I believe in mind over matter with most things, you're mind just needs to believe it can. Which in itself is the hard part I would think.

HDK

[Suezie]

At the risk of sounding "trollish" :giggle: I do believe it's possible to change parts of your appearance. Not like the movie though (Might take some more time and not be as drastic.) But I believe your mind can achieve whatever it wants to if the will and desire are truely there.
Changing eye and hair colour for one is something most people have achieved who fool around with this sort of stuff. That's where the meditation comes in, mind over matter. The more you do it, the easier it becomes, it takes some dedication though (or we'd all be able to loose our fat without lipo :lol:).

[muah]

I'm already experimenting with techniques similar to subconscious programing, such as hypnosis. There's other ideas that I have but never had the time to try yet. I'll keep posting my updates.