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Stormbeard
July 10th, 2008, 01:41 PM
or 'How I learned to stop worrying and love the beast'

We will examine one of the basic tenets of Satanism in this series, which is the rejection of traditional Christian teachings which inhibit the true nature of mankind. That is not to say that to reject 'thou shalt not kill' one should kill as many people as possible. That would be irrational and foolish. So to better understand how the Satanist chooses to conduct himself (though there is nothing set in stone here, as Satanism is very much build around the needs and desires of the individual and not a 'herd' or 'flock') we will be examining the core ideals upon which Christianity and, as such, a large portion of modern day western 'morality' is based upon. Perhaps it will also help the reader to understand why Satanism rejects traditional Christianity almost as much as traditional Christianity vilifies Satanism.

So to ease us all in gently, I'll start with the simplest. Lust.

We will start with the meaning of Lust so that we may all be sure of which I speak. I will use the Wikipedia definition of Lust as I feel it to be the most applicable.


Lust is any intense desire or craving for gratification and excitement. Lust can mean strictly sexual lust, although it is also common to speak of a "lust for men", "lust for blood (bloodlust for short)" or a "lust for power", or other goals and to "lust for love". The Greek word which translates as lust is epithymia (επιθυμια), which also is translated into English as "to covet"

Christianity in it's most basic form was a very early method of control. With the Seven 'Deadly' Sins this provided the most effective way to subdue and suppress a society. The common man was not an educated man and so looked to the priesthood with reverence as scholars.

Lust is a strong desire for something, and it is your right as a human being to attain it. However, you must weigh up the costs in yourself before acting as with any action to deem worth. This is the difference between a Satanist and somebody with no self control. The Satanist knows his weapons, he knows what he is capable of and he knows and chooses when to deploy them. For example, rape is unacceptable to the Satanist mindset. Though the Satanist may have carnal desires for a woman, it is unacceptable for him to violate her to achieve his ends. Ultimately the rule when dealing with others is similar to Anne Rice's theory on vampires. The vampire must be invited before he can enter the home. So must another person invite themselves to be interacted with in such a way. This is also applicable to violence, but we'll cover that later.

So simply put, if you desire something. You have the right to take it. You should feel no shame in desire. You should feel no guilt for the most basic of human emotions. A starving man hungers for bread, should he feel guilt over his lust for food? Of course not.

Such is the Satanic perception of lust.

CzechWoods
August 4th, 2008, 08:10 PM
but you are aware that the 7 major sins of former times have this year been redifined by Pope Bendedkt ?

Stormbeard
August 17th, 2008, 04:48 PM
but you are aware that the 7 major sins of former times have this year been redifined by Pope Bendedkt ?
The church is always changing its mind. If this is to be believed then their God is reproaching on his words and cannot be trusted. If he cannot be trusted, he cannot be believed.

CzechWoods
August 17th, 2008, 06:50 PM
The church is always changing its mind. If this is to be believed then their God is reproaching on his words and cannot be trusted. If he cannot be trusted, he cannot be believed.

this depends on what "their god" is.

if it is jesus alone, i agree with you.

if we talk JHV (God Father), i cannot agree with your statement.

the church and their God JHV are not one and the same

Stormbeard
September 1st, 2008, 02:45 PM
this depends on what "their god" is.

if it is jesus alone, i agree with you.

if we talk JHV (God Father), i cannot agree with your statement.

the church and their God JHV are not one and the same

I was referring to the Father.

Stormbeard
September 23rd, 2008, 04:48 AM
So to conclude. Lust is not the negative emotion that the bible would have you believe it is. It, combined with jealousy, is the sin that keeps the race going.

If you lust after something truely, go forth and claim it. If the universe feels like you have earned it, it shall be yours.

Laoghaire
September 23rd, 2008, 04:56 AM
If you lust after something truely, go forth and claim it. If the universe feels like you have earned it, it shall be yours.

And so it is...

PrincessKLS
October 1st, 2008, 08:55 AM
I've always felt that the 7 deadly sins aren't really that bad as long as you don't go overboard with it but ironically the church had two great deadly sins in common: pride and greed and they use that control everyone else.

Stormbeard
October 13th, 2008, 05:49 PM
I've always felt that the 7 deadly sins aren't really that bad

Welcome to Satanism friend. Here's your membership pack which includes Baby Flavoured Ready Meals and a set of novelty horns to wear at Samhain.

Cassie
October 13th, 2008, 06:18 PM
So simply put, if you desire something. You have the right to take it. You should feel no shame in desire. You should feel no guilt for the most basic of human emotions. A starving man hungers for bread, should he feel guilt over his lust for food? Of course not.

Such is the Satanic perception of lust.
I agree with (and pretty much live by) most of that, but there is one phrase which is problematic to me... "You have the right to take it."
Everything else in that paragraph I could imagine applying to any situation involving lust; but, having the right to take what you lust after seems too strong and something that could not and should not be taken as a general principle.
Or?

Stormbeard
October 13th, 2008, 06:49 PM
I agree with (and pretty much live by) most of that, but there is one phrase which is problematic to me... "You have the right to take it."
Everything else in that paragraph I could imagine applying to any situation involving lust; but, having the right to take what you lust after seems too strong and something that could not and should not be taken as a general principle.
Or?

Read back upon the denial of rape.

You have the right to take it, but both parties must be consenting. You have no right to deny the other person their right to decline.

A different way of looking at it.

If you're attracted to the guy down the hall, and he's into you, but God tells you homosexuality is wrong. Well then, **** society. If you're into it, and he's into it, then I say you **** like bunnies in spite of a God that would declare such things.

David19
October 15th, 2008, 07:32 PM
Read back upon the denial of rape.

You have the right to take it, but both parties must be consenting. You have no right to deny the other person their right to decline.

A different way of looking at it.

If you're attracted to the guy down the hall, and he's into you, but God tells you homosexuality is wrong. Well then, hug society. If you're into it, and he's into it, then I say you hug like bunnies in spite of a God that would declare such things.

QFT :thumbsup:.

Drouach
November 2nd, 2008, 06:42 AM
Slightly off-topic..... Priests weren't always Celibate. The reason Celibacy was enforced was a 'money' issue. They had too many problems with heirs of Priests requiring their inheritance from the church.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clerical_celibacy
I guess it goes hand in hand with their requirement of a vow of Poverty too. The church has all the money/assets.

These days priests are having all kinds of problems trying to have sexual out-lets.


Online Porn wouldn't finance the internet the way it does...without that human need. :thumbsup: