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BearDancing
July 28th, 2008, 12:21 PM
Has anyone ever felt or beleive that they can access past mastery....in saying past mastery I mean a skill or level of conciousness that we mastered in a passt life...


I beleive that in the beginnings of my solitary teachings/learning that many spiritual things happened to me because of just that....actually I have no other explaination for some of the incredible things that have happened to me in the beginning when I had no experience or knew nothing of what was happening to me

I have had very powerful expeeriences with animals and nature...actually they would happen and then I would have to try and figure out what the hell was happening to me....going crazy for finding some answers...through prayer or maybe books....some native americans that I went to for help kind of closed the doors to me saying that I could not have experienced what I was saying as they have been working towards or on the path for so long and it did not happen to them..I guess I did not talk to any true elders to get that response...

Has this happened to any of U....experiencing right from the beginning with no experience or knowledge of what was happening.....after I became more comfortable in my own skin...I have a strong feeling that it was past mastery and somehow it was triggered or I accessed it without my even knowing...

any thoughts

Teresa
July 29th, 2008, 08:00 PM
IMOPO ( In My Own Personal Opinion), I believe you can gain access to something like that through a very deep guided meditation.

Caitlin.ann
July 29th, 2008, 08:19 PM
I think its possible..do you have any specific examples of what you mastered so maybe we can share a better opinion? Why would they not be "true" elders simply because they disagreed with you?

BearDancing
July 29th, 2008, 08:45 PM
All of what I am writing is MY opinion not everyones truth...my truth to the extent of knowledge I am aware of....about the true elder...it was not because they did not agree with me...it was the way the situation was handled....I find elders with more experience guide a person not send them away...lets not get into a pis....g contest about this just share what is a true elder for U and maybe we will both learn.

I have met a few native american elders in my time and IMO a true elder handles situations differently...(there is much polotics in the elders circles) the 2 ( that I felt were true elders )that I have met...would invite me in and listen and posibbly share or lead me in a direction for learning....

if U are truly interested in my posts I will definately share with U if U start tearing apart every sentence I write trying to make me wrong....I will choose not to answer U...To me there is a difference with disagree and trying to make someone wrong for sharing their opinion

I am not saying that U have to agree, lets just try and learn here

I will share later...I have to go right now.....as I am very interesting in talking to people who may have experience....I never heard of Past Mastery before... it is just something that came to me....maybe there is a different name for it...

Caitlin.ann
July 29th, 2008, 08:47 PM
All of what I am writing is MY opinion not everyones truth...my truth to the extent of knowledge I am aware of....about the true elder...it was not because they did not agree with me...it was the way the situation was handled....I find elders with more experience guide a person not send them away...lets not get into a pis....g contest about this just share what is a true elder for U and maybe we will both learn.

I have met a few native american elders in my time and IMO a true elder handles situations differently...(there is much polotics in the elders circles) the 2 ( that I felt were true elders )that I have met...would invite me in and listen and posibbly share or lead me in a direction for learning....

if U are truly interested in my posts I will definately share with U if U start tearing apart every sentence I write trying to make me wrong....I will choose not to answer U...To me there is a difference with disagree and trying to make someone wrong for sharing their opinion

I am not saying that U have to agree, lets just try and learn here

I will share later...I have to go right now.....as I am very interesting in talking to people who may have experience....I never heard of Past Mastery before... it is just something that came to me....maybe there is a different name for it...

ROFL! I never said you were wrong. I was actually agreeing that it was possible, I was just hoping we could have a discussion. But I can see thats a negative. But it seems to me that you've already started the pissing contest, and if thats how you wish to play then forget I ever tried to have an interest.

BearDancing
July 29th, 2008, 09:15 PM
I am leaving for a Sun Dance in South Dakota tommorrow morning...early

I do want to share witih U...I will share more when I come back from the Sun Dance.....:uhhuhuh:

patch
July 30th, 2008, 03:32 AM
if U are truly interested in my posts I will definately share with U if U start tearing apart every sentence I write trying to make me wrong....I will choose not to answer U...To me there is a difference with disagree and trying to make someone wrong for sharing their opinion


No offense, but I actually try and avoid replying to your threads because you seem to accuse anyone who disagrees with or questions you as being a hyppocrite, making you wrong etc etc. When frankly they aren't.

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I don't personally believe in past life regression.
I suppose it is because I don't believe in reincarnation per se. It's complex.
Anyway, I reckon that if we did re incarnate there are reasons as to why we do not remember things from a past life (such as we have to learn new lessons in this one).
Then there are reasons like the soul not having a physical brain to store memories.

BearDancing
August 6th, 2008, 08:56 AM
I would imagine if you do not beleive in rencarnation you would not belive in accessing past lives

I am thinking if you do not beleive.. then you possibly may not experience it..for those of us who do beleive there are many many incredible experiences to be had and that we have already had..does the soul store memories? if we are here to learn a new lessons as I too beleive we are here to do....where would the memories be stored....in the soul? for your personal memories or maybe ascheki records or who knows.

Maybe it is not past mastery maybe it is tapping into the universe the "all knowing" I am not sure that is why I asked if anyone experienced it and would like to share their "experiences"

thought_on_a_wind
September 22nd, 2009, 06:06 PM
very rarely have I met a human master that appeals, mostly because my spiritual path is at the point of realizing the universal connections to everything and nothing... I've met certain people that would qualify to certain extents, but mostly I have had to rely on those past masters I've encompassed esp because most people who are on a path seem to do as you said and close doors simply because of human jealousy... I am very skeptical of those who tout their level of mastery and yet say that another has no right to their own experiences....

It has been my experience through hundreds of lives that in the end there are only certain things you should listen to... first and foremost is your own spirit, there are many lives devoted to such ascension, and the vital knowledge each of those aspects hold can only enrich your over-all understanding of spirit and the universes/dimensions surrounding and penetrating yourself. From a psychological aspect no two individuals live in the same world, by pure technicality, earthbound humans alone, through perception there are billions of copies of this world alone. Every person perceives every word, thought, phrase, picture, action, emotion, object, animal, and unknown differently. This fact in itself can lead a person to accept that their path is different... when even the experts in a certain feild seem to gravitate towards a certain part of their subject, or have major disagreements with another such expert in their field, more times than not it is a clash of the worlds. One persons reality is directly being questioned and forced against the others... they are in direct conflict because the head of all other of their experiences and associations don't quite match up...

second to listen to would be your divinity, that divinity that communicates to you... I do not feel that this really needs explanation...

the third would be your own path oriented spirit guides/colleagues (oh yes, the word colleague was used in association with the word spirit guide) because mostly they just don't come out of the dark as it were, they usually have had past relationships with you on some astral level or other...

I bring this triplicity up because I feel it's very important to emphasize that extent of my concurrence with your opinion.

It's just like the following example: you are given a box by a stranger you think you've know forever, like linked to them forever, they tell you you must open the box on this day at this time, not a moment later, not a moment sooner, they tell you that if you do your life will manifest a higher purpose that you'd never before been able to comprehend... somehow, some way, as you are passing the time to open the gift a friend pries this crucial information from your brain... and start casting many accusations of delusion, selfishness, cruelty, and other nice little ignorant nasties humans have a way of placing before those that are on other levels of consciousness...

If you know that the box contains memories of lives lived that will manifest success and power on levels that you'd never before attained, even in previous lives masteries, yet are still connected to this lower realm of mundane doubt... what is the obvious answer... is there one? I'd answer it easily enough, that friend doesn't want you to follow something they think is evil, useless or destructive... a part of them has not reached the same level of mastery as you have, therefore they are on certain different developmental and spiritual wavelengths below yourself, so they cannot feel or see the experience the same things

as an aside, this also points to a little bit of that human jealousy that appears regardless what we wish of it... maybe they don't want to see you do better on certain primal levels, and then directly relevant to the example you placed, those native americans you spoke with were - as they felt- on a very high spiritual level. They'd accomplished much in this life yet hadn't seen what you had... so, since they didn't see it, touch it or smell it, it didn't exist... problem is that's exactly the opposite of existence as a whole, even strictly mundane terms, atoms exist, there's a whole spectrum of light light years long that we cannot sense, the sun is so immense we really cannot comprehend it's immensity, let alone the solar system or the galaxy... it's a difference in perspective...

I answer your question in such a way for a reason I can't really place... as far as my own experiences, I lived a life long ago where I attained mastery by mid-life, I moved to a cottage in the midst of a vibrant yet-secluded glen and gave advice to passerby's while devoting my time to studies... I was reclusive, but conducive to company as anyone that past through my door would leave with worthwhile advice meant to develop that person on spiritual and physical levels humans thought we were not meant to go past...

I used this knowledge to guide a spirit of a friend who had been killed to knowledgeably guide him down the correct path to his spirit/his own belief of the afterlife... this realm wasn't meant for conscious earth-linked human interaction, yet at the same moment I was there, consciously, vividly, and almost totally pointing out the road for my friend with an air of ease around me... I mention that because it is directly relevant because that past mastery had delved to this realm many and many a time, he spoke to me and became me... my affirmation was being jerked from my dreams by the very physical slapping of my foot by that friend who was leaning out of the wall closest to my bed frantically telling me to remember...

My past mastery has manifested in the form of being the middle higher self of my being... he is the writer and akashic record keeper...

Another thing that has made itself known to me is that there are many other aspects of self that are trying to speak to me, but have been blocked, because I'm still partially blocking them... which I am working on....