Drumming up Jing with an unusual meditation method

[aluokaloo]

I have been slowly teaching myself the basics of Tai Chi making my energy flow is no problem, my problem is learning to convert my chi into jing, i have only been able to do it a few times on my own and I am having a very difficult time, so I had a weird idea, I started meditating to very fast, hard heavy metal music and I found it was alot easier to convert chi into jing, since my energy responded to the vibrations and energy of the music. I don't want it to become a crutch though. has anyone else ever meditated with harder music? does anyone who practices tai chi regularly have any tips? thanks.

[Suezie]

Hi! I practice tai chi, qi gung and yoga including kundalini yoga. I've never used hard music with my practice, but what ever feels right for you. The main thing with the chi is to rember your breathing and to stay focused. Learning on your own is going to be harder to get the chi flowing because you don't have an experianced one there with you to help you when your maybe not doing it correct or forgetting to breath. But remember, if you forget to breath your chi won't be able to flow, it will stay stagnet. Also remember to stay relaxed and open. Also, remember your energy can pick up outside negativities, and since tai chi is in essance a form of meditation, harder music that may have harsher undertones (like lyrics) may become set in and just end up aggrevateing you in the long run.
Happy practicing:smile:

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[aluokaloo]

thank you suzie, i try not to focus on the lyrics but the faster rythms and beats of the music it certainly does help

[staticonthewire]

Isn't there a possibility that external stimulation like that could result in physical damage? I've studied a little tai chi and some of the internal martial arts, and was warned off this kind of practice (which was popular with some of the younger men at the gym where I was studying). In a nutshell, the gym master said what they were doing was amping themselves up beyond the limits of their own training, and that the result could be corrosive.

My exposure to internal martial arts is very limited though. I do know pranayama and yoga to a fair degree, and similar warnings apply there, particularly as regards to raising kundalini energy that one is unprepared to handle.

Are you studying with someone who could give you an opinion?

[aluokaloo]

nope.

[Shanti]

Achieving jing is not easy. I haven't been able to do it.
But the music, if the hard stuff moves your energy go with it!
Once you achieve jing and can know, know through experience, it well then you can work on letting the music go as you will know and understand the flow of jing.

I wouldn't look at it as a crutch. Its a tool to help you experience your goal so you have the experience felt, known, and then can work to achieve it without the tool.

I use to use music to meditate and I used it to shift consciousness on Shamanistic journeys.
Now after time and knowing the experiences I don't need anything to achieve either state.

I say keep working as you are. Feel for your triggers that help you transcend the flow. Learn it, experience it and know it. Then you can move above the tools.

[aluokaloo]

Achieving jing is not easy. I haven't been able to do it.
But the music, if the hard stuff moves your energy go with it!
Once you achieve jing and can know, know through experience, it well then you can work on letting the music go as you will know and understand the flow of jing.

I wouldn't look at it as a crutch. Its a tool to help you experience your goal so you have the experience felt, known, and then can work to achieve it without the tool.

I use to use music to meditate and I used it to shift consciousness on Shamanistic journeys.
Now after time and knowing the experiences I don't need anything to achieve either state.

I say keep working as you are. Feel for your triggers that help you transcend the flow. Learn it, experience it and know it. Then you can move above the tools.

thanks for your wisdom

[aluokaloo]

and thanks for all your guys' input so far