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Agaliha
August 14th, 2008, 10:38 AM
As the Chinese Olympic women's — "girls'" may be a more appropriate term — gymnastics team celebrates winning its first-ever gold medal on Wednesday, questions surrounding the athletes' ages continue to plague them, the International Herald Tribune reported.

In what has been referred to by many as sour grapes after the Americans finished in second place, the U.S. national team coordinator, Martha Karolyi, voiced her concern over the Chinese team’s eligibility to compete because some of the girls on the six-member team may not be over 16.

"One of the girls has a missing tooth," Karolyi told the Tribune, suggesting she had lost a baby tooth and did not yet have an adult replacement. "I have no proof, so I can't make an affirmation."

A photo of gymnast Deng Linlin, who is on record as being 16 years old, shows a wide gap in her teeth. To be eligible for the Games, the gymnasts must turn 16 this year, the Tribune reported.

China’s coach, Lu Shanzhen, defended his team after they upset the Americans, and reigning world champions.

"It's unfair that people keep saying the Chinese are too young to compete," Lu told reporters in Mandarin on his way out of the National Indoor Stadium. "If they think they can tell someone's age just by looking at them, well, if you look at the foreign athletes, they have so much more muscles than the Chinese. They are so strong. Do you then say that they are doping?"

Another gymnast, Yang Yilin, whose passport says she will turn 16 at the end of the month, said, "It's unreasonable for people to think I'm too young." She will compete in the all-around final on Friday.For the rest of the story (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,403584,00.html)!

Here's the one that looks the youngest--
http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/8650/023081408linlinrw9.jpg

Do you think she's 16?

My family was watching the gymnastics and couldn't help notice how young she looked :2G:

Seems like this has happened before:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_controversies_in_gymnastics

Most recently, with China as well:

Yang Yun (CHN): Yang competed at the 2000 Summer Olympics in Sydney and won an individual bronze on the uneven bars. At the time she competed under documents listing birthdate as December 2 1984,[24] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_controversies_in_gymnastics#cite_note-23) which would have made her 15 years, 9 months old during the Olympic opening ceremonies. She later revealed in a television interview that she had been 14 years old in Sydney. Her competition of age of 14 was later confirmed by sports officials in Hunan province.[14] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_controversies_in_gymnastics#cite_note-nytnew-13)

Also see:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/27/sports/olympics/27gymnasts.html?_r=3&hp&oref=slogin&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

Caitlin.ann
August 14th, 2008, 11:28 AM
Well...my Chinese friend is tiny as well and looks way younger than she is. She's 18 and looks about 14, though sometimes we joke that she looks 12. So I'm really not surprised that they look younger than 16, however that being said, they're finding documents that two of the girls are 14 and another 15 from competetions not so long ago.

On one hand, I do feel that the best athletes should be able to compete regardless of age, however rules are rules so these girls should probably be disqualified. Not that its the girls fault so I dislike the thought of them being punished but rules are rules.

Stormbeard
August 14th, 2008, 11:31 AM
If she is younger, is that not even more of a reason to celebrate the win?

Caitlin.ann
August 14th, 2008, 11:35 AM
If she is younger, is that not even more of a reason to celebrate the win?

You would think but the controversy is over the fact that China is lying about their athletes. If one country is allowed to use younger athletes then all of them should be able to.

WynterWynd
August 15th, 2008, 12:30 AM
Do you think she's 16?

My family was watching the gymnastics and couldn't help notice how young she looked :2G:



I was thinking the same thing when I was watching her.
Looking younger or not, I don't believe that she is 16....thats just my opinion:uhhuhuh:

Liberty
August 15th, 2008, 12:42 AM
I'm Asian and I look much younger than my age, BUT that girl looks like she's around 9 or 10 years old.
There's a big difference between looking younger than your age and looking like you haven't even hit puberty yet.

I'm not a gymnist so I'm not sure how age factors in on how well you do. There has to be a reason for having age limits.

I'm with Vroom, I don't think she's 16 either.
I've seen the other Chinese female athletes who are 16-18 years old and they look their age, or reasonably close.

Cassie
August 15th, 2008, 03:04 AM
Frankly, I don't think the girl in the photo looks anywhere near 16, and unfortunately given that the Chinese have confessed to falsifying some aspects of the opening ceremony it is not hard to believe they are lying about her age.
However, I do think there is a large amount of sour grapes in the American complaint.

In what has been referred to by many as sour grapes after the Americans finished in second place, the U.S. national team coordinator, Martha Karolyi, voiced her concern over the Chinese team’s eligibility to compete because some of the girls on the six-member team may not be over 16.

"One of the girls has a missing tooth," Karolyi told the Tribune, suggesting she had lost a baby tooth and did not yet have an adult replacement. "I have no proof, so I can't make an affirmation."
Martha and Bella Karolyi coached Romanian gymnast Nadia Commaneci, to record breaking success before defecting to the US back in the 80s. Nadia was 14 when she competed in the Montreal olympics (the age rules were different then). But there are rumours that Nadia and many other gymnasts of that era were subjected to all sorts of illegal regimes including hormone and other drug treatments and sexual abuse in order for them to be in peak gymnastic condition. Overall, forging ages is probably less dangerous to the gymnasts.

HetHert
August 21st, 2008, 04:47 PM
Hackers reveal evidence. HACK THE PLANET!!!! <-- had too say it. It needed to be said.


http://en.epochtimes.com/n2/world/underage-chinese-gymnasts-ioc-fig-3151.html

http://en.epochtimes.com/n2/china/chinese-gymnasts-underage-olympics-3097.html <-- this one with a pick of the cached doc with the dates of birth.


http://www.smh.com.au/news/gymnastics/underaged-gold-winner-claims-grow/2008/08/21/1219262374664.html?page=2