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Stormbeard
October 13th, 2008, 06:46 PM
or 'More tea vicar?'

We will examine one of the basic tenets of Satanism in this series, which is the rejection of traditional Christian teachings which inhibit the true nature of mankind. That is not to say that to reject 'thou shalt not kill' one should kill as many people as possible. That would be irrational and foolish. So to better understand how the Satanist chooses to conduct himself (though there is nothing set in stone here, as Satanism is very much build around the needs and desires of the individual and not a 'herd' or 'flock') we will be examining the core ideals upon which Christianity and, as such, a large portion of modern day western 'morality' is based upon. Perhaps it will also help the reader to understand why Satanism rejects traditional Christianity almost as much as traditional Christianity vilifies Satanism.

Round two. Gluttony.

As before, I will be using Wikipedia for the best generally perceived meaning of Gluttony in context of sin.


Derived from the Latin gluttire, meaning to gulp down or swallow, gluttony is the over-indulgence and over-consumption of anything to the point of waste. In the Christian religions, it is considered a sin because of the excessive desire for food, or its withholding from the needy.

Depending on the culture, it can be seen as either a vice or a sign of status. Where food is relatively scarce, being able to eat well might be something to take pride in (although this can also result in a moral backlash when confronted with the reality of those less fortunate). Where food is routinely plentiful, it may be considered a sign of self control to resist the temptation to over-indulge.

Again, with our understanding of the Church's desire to control. This was to suppress the followers into not feeling like they should eat well. That they should only take their share, and if there was less then to take less than their share. To go hungry to show their devotion to God.

Gluttony and greed are akin to Lust in that it is satiating a want, not a need. That your choice on what you do with your gains is not truly a matter of 'free will'. That you should feel some kind of shame if you decide not to give your excess to others. Do not be fooled into thinking this was charity on the behalf of the Church. This was a business opportunity, pure and simple. If you had more than you 'need' and you were a man of god, where would you place your riches and food? At the service of the lord. And if, as the poor and suffering, your food comes from the hand of God, then you're more likely to be sympathetic to the teachings.

Many will paint the Satanist as selfish, but the act of self-preservation is important because it is essential to building inner strength. The strong are in a much finer position to help the worthy than the broken and the hungry. And you can do it with want of nothing in return. True charity. Your love and care and gifts come from your hand as an act of compassion to other human beings, just trying to get by. They come from no office or pulpit, just from your heart.

Also, we as humans will indulge in excess. If everybody ate just what they needed to live and spent no more than was necessary our houses would be bare and our stomachs perfectly flat. It is not so much the want of the Church to have all it's followers hungry or just 'getting by'. No. It wants them guilty. Why? Because guilt keeps people coming to Church. It's bums in seats. It's keeping the organisation alive.

We are taught that it is sinful to have ideas of greatness. That Lucifer once had an idea of greatness, to rise up and better himself and for his sins was struck down and cast out. DO NOT QUESTION YOUR CREATOR appears to be the central message to this fable. Ambition is the term, greed is the dirty word which would want you to feel guilty. Avarice is another term used to describe such things. Covers more of a general topic than Greed. An act which decries bribery, betrayal, hoarding. Things which the Church itself has employed to further it's goals.

It's all about convincing the believers to close their eyes on Earth and the pleasures that can be had here, to stop living for the now, and to live for the promise of an afterlife. Scoring points here and there by remaining ignorant of the joys that the world around you contains.

So simply put, deny yourself nothing. If you are willing to accept consequence then you have the right as a human to take it. You should feel no shame in desire. You should feel no guilt for another basic human emotions. Fulfilling one's needs without perpetual guilt hanging over your head like the sword of Damocles.

Such is the Satanic perception of gluttony and greed.

Drouach
November 2nd, 2008, 06:34 AM
Christians regularly have periods of fasting and self denial.

In the traditional sense gluttony is simply having more than a certain 'portion'.

Who decides that portion? Some authority?

Nazi scientists were developing food regulations to regulate intake of vitamins etc. Since their regime collapsed, the UN has taken this up as their Codex program.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex_Alimentarius

Whether it's the UN, the Church or your government talking Food Pyramids...it's the same thing - an outside instiution trying to control what you eat and consume.

I fully agree with the satanist philosophy of telling people to '**** off' and not be involved with what we eat or drink.

Raxeph
November 4th, 2008, 10:06 PM
Indeed, what makes, what makes desiring food "wrong"? :huh:

Simply wanting to eat food, to excess... how is that wrong? Depriving others, withholding from the needy... that is what may produce guilt, but this point is in fact rubbish. Who are the needy? The poor and impoverished. So, we should go without excess food so they can have more, right? Sounds simple, right? WRONG. The sad fact is, they will go without because they cannot afford the food, not because fatty fatty gluttons are taking it all away from them. :smileroll Food IS wasted in this western society of ours. But not by gluttons seeking to fill their fattened bellies. No, it is wasted by the supermarkets, restaurants and other food suppliers themselves under quality control and health regulation laws.

It disgusts me, to see fresh enough, adequate enough food all be tossed out into the bin when you see people STARVING. They'd be happy with adequate food, I know I would, because it's FOOD! Just something! :( Once I rememer watching lividly at the television here a couple of years ago, because of food market issues, farmers had to destroy their fresh juicy oranges and plow them into the ground. :mad: The waste was abhorrent. Look at poor people overseas. Food could be given to them too, transferred over, goodness knows we have enough to spare- except not enough is given, just tossed away after a short shelf life, and all too often the food will be perfectly edible- but the food suppliers can't risk litigation, oh no! :fpatricks

So as we see, it is not the fault of the glutton that these poor starving souls go without. The glutton can do nothing other than watch sadly out the window at the state of affairs, the snide users of red tape and litigation refusing these poor people something to eat. If anyone is commiting a sin of waste, it is those who created this system of waste. Here, McDonalds now only make food when you order, instead of throwing out burgers into the bin after about 5-10 minutes, which is a grand and wonderful change indeed. If only others in this system of food could follow something along similar lines. :)

So if someone overeats, at least then the food is being put to some use- the other alternative is being thrown in the bin and going to none at all.

Stormbeard
November 10th, 2008, 01:51 PM
I am somewhat at odds with the Satanic understanding this sin. I believe that we should all eat according to our need. That we should look to those less priviledged than us with a benevolent eye, and be sure that nobody goes hungry.

However, I am completely against any kind of body of control (especially the psychic warfare of Christian guilt peddlers) being employed. Change must always come from a decision within.

To overeat to spite the church is a fools errand.