View Full Version : Nasa Astronauts Confirm Discovery of Life on Mars
Xander67
February 9th, 2009, 07:35 AM
over 65 thousand photos have been Declassified by NASA and what they show are beyond belief!
Pyramids Twice as tall as the World Trade Center, Glass like Tunnels, Forrests, and more!
Also a new Face on Mars!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mH9yUlQUiCg
Rudas Starblaze
February 9th, 2009, 07:48 AM
snazzy! :thumbsup:
Infinite Grey
February 9th, 2009, 08:20 AM
These guys have imagination, I'll give them that :smileroll
brigidrose
February 9th, 2009, 08:35 AM
I knew it !!!
Infinite Grey
February 9th, 2009, 08:44 AM
BTW; Nothing has been confirmed... the thread title is misleading.
Xander67
February 9th, 2009, 12:13 PM
sorry about that, I used confirmed because that was what was used in the title..
In the Video itself there were 2 Nasa Astronauts who confirmed that it is possible..
discovery of intelligent Life on Mars in NASA photos by Andrew D. Basiago, was also formally announced Dec. 28, 2008 by the Mars Anomaly Research Society
he is currently trying to get his article published by National Geographic..
Infinite Grey
February 9th, 2009, 12:33 PM
sorry about that, I used confirmed because that was what was used in the title..
In the Video itself there were 2 Nasa Astronauts who confirmed that it is possible..
discovery of intelligent Life on Mars in NASA photos by Andrew D. Basiago, was also formally announced Dec. 28, 2008 by the Mars Anomaly Research Society
he is currently trying to get his article published by National Geographic..
http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/msg50004.html
The man is unbalanced.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/98/PIA10214.jpg/800px-PIA10214.jpg (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/98/PIA10214.jpg)
He claims here that there are humanoid fossils or statues in the above Spirit's West Valley Panorama (PIA10214), along with animals and reptiles... I see lot of interesting things in that image, but nothing organic or once organic - My career is based around image correction - I only see shadows and light.
Xander67
February 9th, 2009, 12:38 PM
Yes, I will agree with you there on him Being Off Balance, but the video is a bit more credible as two nasa astronauts spoke on it.. and you have to admit, a Pyramid twice the size as the world trade center would be pretty difficult to accomplish by wind according to the calculations... I looked at some of the photos on the European Space agency's site, (England by the way has already declassified all of it's material) those looked pretty curios too.
Infinite Grey
February 9th, 2009, 12:50 PM
Yes, I will agree with you there on him Being Off Balance, but the video is a bit more credible as two nasa astronauts spoke on it.. and you have to admit, a Pyramid twice the size as the world trade center would be pretty difficult to accomplish by wind according to the calculations... I looked at some of the photos on the European Space agency's site, (England by the way has already declassified all of it's material) those looked pretty curios too.
NASA, ESA and most of the Scientists involved in space (and many not involved) would being doing cartwheels if life was discovered on Mars - there's many articles on the NASA website devoted to the possibility of life on Mars - past and present.
http://rst.gsfc.nasa.gov/Sect19/Sect19_13.html
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news/topstory/2005/0801frozenworlds.html
http://astrobiology.gsfc.nasa.gov/
There is simply a right way to go about and a wrong way to go about. Jump up and down over some rocks that vaguely resemble something living, once living or built is the wrong way. There are plenty of patterns, formations and phenomena on Earth that appear to be intelligently made but are formed naturally - the needle ice rings are a good example of that - it is logical to assume such events occur on a planet with active weather... hell these phenomena would be even more apparent due to the desolate nature of Mars.
A huge dosage of skepticism and caution is the only way to avoid fantastical claims which turn out to me mere embarrassment.
Xander67
February 10th, 2009, 05:29 AM
http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/msg50004.html
The man is unbalanced.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/98/PIA10214.jpg/800px-PIA10214.jpg (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/98/PIA10214.jpg)
He claims here that there are humanoid fossils or statues in the above Spirit's West Valley Panorama (PIA10214), along with animals and reptiles... I see lot of interesting things in that image, but nothing organic or once organic - My career is based around image correction - I only see shadows and light.
what about over in the right side of that photo, those lines look like they could have been roads or something...
NASA, ESA and most of the Scientists involved in space (and many not involved) would being doing cartwheels if life was discovered on Mars - there's many articles on the NASA website devoted to the possibility of life on Mars - past and present.
http://rst.gsfc.nasa.gov/Sect19/Sect19_13.html
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news/topstory/2005/0801frozenworlds.html
http://astrobiology.gsfc.nasa.gov/
There is simply a right way to go about and a wrong way to go about. Jump up and down over some rocks that vaguely resemble something living, once living or built is the wrong way. There are plenty of patterns, formations and phenomena on Earth that appear to be intelligently made but are formed naturally - the needle ice rings are a good example of that - it is logical to assume such events occur on a planet with active weather... hell these phenomena would be even more apparent due to the desolate nature of Mars.
A huge dosage of skepticism and caution is the only way to avoid fantastical claims which turn out to me mere embarrassment.
Skepticism is good, as long as it is true skepticism and not closemindedness...
Some people seem to be on a mission to debunk everything and anything hinting at even the slightest possibility of a chance..
The video I posted was pretty credible in content.. (I thought so anyways)
Those Nasa Astronauts were not confirming they FOUND life, they were confirming there was credible evidence that was worth looking into with an OPEN MIND..
Infinite Grey
February 10th, 2009, 09:34 AM
what about over in the right side of that photo, those lines look like they could have been roads or something...
Skepticism is good, as long as it is true skepticism and not closemindedness...
Some people seem to be on a mission to debunk everything and anything hinting at even the slightest possibility of a chance..
The video I posted was pretty credible in content.. (I thought so anyways)
Those Nasa Astronauts were not confirming they FOUND life, they were confirming there was credible evidence that was worth looking into with an OPEN MIND..
Nope. Well agree science requires an open mind, one of the core concepts within science is to try and prove yourself wrong... try your damn hardest. Just like using a probe to look for fossils in the desert here on Earth is unlikely to work, on Mars it's even more of a waste of time - you have to rule out effects of light, angler perspective, shadows, environmental shaping forces such as wind/rain/free flowing liquids.
Proponents of pseudoscience always bitch about "Open mindness" :smileroll Never mind all our current scientific understand all went under the same trail of fire, without people needing "open minds" as these pseudoscientists plea for. The merit and sheer weight of evidence is what will bring about a theory. Unfortunately, governmental conspiracy theories aside, there is little evidence for intelligent life in out solar system. That isn't to say there isn't or hasn't been ET intelligent life on Mars or where ever... just no convincing evidence yet.
Xander67
February 10th, 2009, 01:09 PM
I completely agree with you.. Which is why I think some people are being too "disclosure minded" In Nasa,
for example, they bring out a very good point in the video about re-imaging or monitoring certain areas for further observation, some of the things in the photos warrant a second look at least, and that is where Nasa is failing. They absolutely refuse to do it.. so ESA and other agencies are doing it..
there are privately funded projects in the work outside of NASA's control to investigate.. hopefully we will get another look.
Infinite Grey
February 10th, 2009, 11:58 PM
I completely agree with you.. Which is why I think some people are being too "disclosure minded" In Nasa,
for example, they bring out a very good point in the video about re-imaging or monitoring certain areas for further observation, some of the things in the photos warrant a second look at least, and that is where Nasa is failing. They absolutely refuse to do it.. so ESA and other agencies are doing it..
there are privately funded projects in the work outside of NASA's control to investigate.. hopefully we will get another look.
Bullshit. I pay a lot of attention to NASA... while they're not as meticulous in some areas as I would like - they take their images very serious, and it is one of the reasons they can take so long to release them to the public. They do not simply "refuse" to reevaluate them - that makes no sense at all.
I've yet to see any image from Mars that would suggest intelligent life past or present - from the NASA or ESA sources. Imagination is essential to science, but not so far as to see pretty pictures in clouds. The human mind likes to form patterns and familiar imagery... like when people see things in clouds, smoke, mist, burnt toast, their wheeties bowl - a lot of the "proof" or "evidence" I've seen put forward for life on Mars has been the equivalent of seeing the Elvis in blot of paint. NASA or any other Science based agency would look the fool if they accepted such low standards of evidence.
DoktorSick
February 11th, 2009, 01:56 PM
These guys have imagination, I'll give them that :smileroll
That's for sure.
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