speaking to me in a language i dont understand, help?

[bellamandu]

in several of my meditative states as of late ive had some sort of unknown entity speaking to me in a language i dont really understand, and i was hoping someone could help.

i am not sure how to spell any of these, i will will just spell it out like it sounds...

the first one is a copy of a previous post from my dreams thread:


Journal Entry (not a dream)

I have been researching, thinking, wondering.
Too hard.
I am currently not capable of logical thought.

My mind strays.

Today, I had another epiphany. It was too much.
Too much.

I needed to meditate, clear my thoughts.
I can't concentrate.

My old methods, they no longer work. I needed to try something new.

It reached out for me. I knew there was a reason I bought it.

I use it.

It is beautiful. The sounds slowly engulfs me, calms me.

Start slowly. Beautiful.

Now speed up. Faster. Faster. Faster. All I can hear is the sound.

It becomes a constant, and then the constant becomes a wave, a pulse of sound.

I listen to the wave. Tell me. Show me. I want to know. I need to know. More. show me MORE. I can handle it.

I feel my eyes move. I watch.

A face, long but not slender. It is beautiful. Full cheekbones, sunken eyes. I cannot tell whether it is male or female. Long dark hair.

Then orbs. Two orbs. They leave my eyes and circle around me. One rests on top, the other on bottom.

My head drops. I can no longer bear the weight of it.

Further down. More. Faster. Beautiful.

I.... can't remember.

Show me, please!

The noise, ah yes.

Then I see something else. There is a giant ball. Not a planet, I can see this. Then it...explodes. A ring of debri circles around it. A... supernova?

What is this? Show me. Tell me more.

No, its fading, come back... What is this?

You are not ready.

No, I am! Please!!!

Then I hear something. A language I do not understand. It vibrates. I can feel it on my tounge. I want to utter it, but I cannot yet.

I knew the words..

"Sha, da-da-da-da"

No, that's not it..

"Sha, ta-ta-ta-ta"

Closer...

"Sha- tathr'ta-thr-da-da"

maybe?

I dont know. I can't remember.

"Sha-la-mo ri"

"Sha-lam-ri-tee"

The words vibrate. Is this it?

You are not ready yet.and this is what happened most recently, just a few minutes ago actually.

my eyes are closed, i see flashes of light, and the light bends and moves until it merges into shapes, faces. i see faces. they are not human faces. they looks like stone or wood. they are angry at me, they are yelling at me but i can't hear what they are saying.

then i see another face, it must be human. but it is too beautiful to be human. i am terrified of its beauty.

NO! GO AWAY! i tell it, its too frightening.

it starts to fade away. i am at peace again, but only for a moment.

i can't see it anymore, but i can hear it speak all of a sudden. its voice is deep roar. i think that if it were to manifest physically that this voice is so powerful that it would shake the world when it spoke.

You did it wrong, you did what you weren't supposed to do! it tells me...

then suddenly i get a surge of sensations down my body. i don't know quite how to describe it. it feels like what might happen if you died from fear. i honestly thought i was dieing.

What do you mean? what did i do wrong? i say...

then it speaks in a language i cannot understand.

"Eh Kahn-kooz-ahn-eh"

the words echo in my head as it fades away again.



does anyone recognize any of these words?

[talamh]

It means what you want it to mean. If you want to be frightened, then you will be. If you want to hold yourself in protection and experience it, then you may come to some sort of understanding, whether that be pleasant or not pleasant.... depending on what is or is not "pleasant" to you. If you want to open yourself totally to it, it could be the most amazing experience of you life, or it could be quite dangerous.

Not all energies out there are benevolent. Step carefully. If you are not ready, then walk away.

[Astara Seague]

It means what you want it to mean. If you want to be frightened, then you will be. If you want to hold yourself in protection and experience it, then you may come to some sort of understanding, whether that be pleasant or not pleasant.... depending on what is or is not "pleasant" to you. If you want to open yourself totally to it, it could be the most amazing experience of you life, or it could be quite dangerous.

Not all energies out there are benevolent. Step carefully. If you are not ready, then walk away.

very good advice..

what may appear dangerous or scary isnt always that way..its just that we dont understand it..that is where all fears come from
making friends with the unknown makes the uknown a friendlier place

and remember nothing can hurt you unless you let it..

[Meadhbh]

your I agree not every thing out there wants to be your friend. If your getting bad vibes from it I suggest backing away. There is a time and place for dealing with things that scare you. But from what your saying about this, I think this is one of those backing off and leaving it be times. What ever it is, it doesn't sound like it has your best interest in mind.

[Toki Wartooth]

I'm into languages, and it bothers me that I can't really determine crap from this. Then again, that probably indicates that it's not a language I've studied, or at least it's not a language that belongs in the same families as the ones I have.

I can tell what I believe it's not:
- Italic (from Latin down to the Romantic languages)
- Germanic (High & Low German, Dutch, Afrikaans, &c.)
- Slavic

My best guess would be that you try to determine it from a Middle Eastern or African language. It's possible it's Central or South American, maybe even Asian, but I'd lean towards something more like languages used in ancient Mesopotamia or something.

You'd probably be best helped by asking people who have experiences in languages or linguistics, particularly of the non-European types, IMO.

Now, tacking onto what others have said and going by what feelings you described during the ordeal, I'd say you weren't actually ready. I think you were pushing something that you weren't quite prepared to receive. And, really, if you trust the Divine (whatever that is to you), I'm sure It (S/He/They) has a better idea of whether you're ready or not. Plus, since you were frightened, that's another not-so-good sign. Just my two cents.

[Nuadu]

I can tell you its not irish or scottish either. I agree with the others that if youre scared either stop what youre doing or stick the boot into whatever it is. We can hurt them too.

That said before I would do that if you have an incling what the language is at any state I would learn some phrases in the language and go back to that experiance to see if the vibe changes. In Irish culture there are stories where some deities only speak in Irish and wont communicate in other languages because not speaking the language means you arent a member of their tribe.

I would also recommend looking around for something local. If you live around a bunch of greeks or in an old china town the deity may have followed the people and thats the language you need. Alternatively as in Ireland we dont believe our deities travel well Id look around for something local and learn a few phrases in the local first nations tongue.

[skilly-nilly]

The other posts are good and have interesting answers and suggestions.

I have a completely different take on it-- not that I'm more likely to be 'right' but I have another opinion. My sister and I both have a limited clairaudience (hearing psychic things) that sounds like a radio playing in the other room (which it's not) at a level that you can hear the 'mumble..mumble' but not pick out any words.

My sister was talking with a very gifted seer once and mentioned this, complaining that it was pointless. The seer said that the messages would be sent right into the brain and the auditory part was just feedback; so it wasn't necessary to be able to understand the messages with the senses.

So this makes me think that you didn't seem to understand the language in your dream but a lot of understanding was conveyed.
The messages in clear are indeed clear-- you're not ready.

Maybe the further messages seemed to be in a language you don't understand on purpose so that you couldn't understand them until you ARE ready; if you were the non-language would make sense. Or maybe they were sent to your unconscious so that they can surface gradually as you process the sending.

I definately wouldn't reccommend going back there anytime soon!

[bellamandu]

:thumbsup:

[ninurta2008]

I know that its not:
-english
-spanish
-french
-japanese
-sanskrit

but a few words make it appear like a semitic language:

Sha-la-mo ri

Sha-lam-ri-tee

Shalom in hebrew and salam in arabic mean peace.

hope that helps. I will look into my hebrew dictionary, but it sounds semitic.

[Stormbeard]

"Eh Kahn-kooz-ahn-eh"
"Sha- tathr'ta-thr-da-da"

It's Cthulhu.

[Allytria]

And what if it is something her/his mind just made up? Or elvish from LOTR that her subconscious remembered and made into a "Metaphysical" experience?

[Burning Angel]

And what if it is something her/his mind just made up? Or elvish from LOTR that her subconscious remembered and made into a "Metaphysical" experience?

Why wouldn't LOTR have potential to be a metaphysical experience? The Sacred is what we make it - so is the divine :)

I wonder if Stormbeard could elaborate - I do think it has a definite Lovecraftian sound, and that could be subconscious, or it could refer symbolically to a real danger. (My Lovecraft-fu is crap, though, so he's better than me to tell you :))

By Star And Sword,
~Jon~ :boing:

[Stormbeard]

Long story short. It's nonsense sounds that your brain is forming into words. It means nothing. Continue as normal and if the noises persist, consult your doctor as it is potentially linked to the lower blood pressure that accompanies meditation, which therefore affect the way you are hearing sounds.

[Burning Angel]

Long story short. It's nonsense sounds that your brain is forming into words. It means nothing. Continue as normal and if the noises persist, consult your doctor as it is potentially linked to the lower blood pressure that accompanies meditation, which therefore affect the way you are hearing sounds.

Hmmm. That's one way to look at it, right? :thumbsup: It could just be that :) But I doubt it kinda...

By Star And Sword (and with the utmost respect for all opinions, even if I don't dig them personally),
~Jon~ :boing:

[David19]

Why wouldn't LOTR have potential to be a metaphysical experience? The Sacred is what we make it - so is the divine :)

Definitely agreed with that point :).

[Burning Angel]

Definitely agreed with that point :).

Besides I can assure you it's neither elvish nor dwarvish :P

By Star And Sword,
~Jon~ :boing:

[Æon Flux]

being purely lazy and putting the phrases through translator filter (freetranslation.com)

Sha-lam-ri-tee (used in different ways... like; shalam ri tee/ sha lam ritee etc)

A site take

A whole sewage

A site whole

Eh Kahn-kooz-ahn-eh: (same is in last)

Mast obstruct you

The mast + obstruct  bridge

Mast obstruct your bridge


(and I have no idea how correct this is) but... if you can make sense out of it... that's all that matters

(My grandmother talks to me in Finnish in my dreams.I don't know Finnish myself, so i have to use a translator. Sometimes it works.

[Burning Angel]

being purely lazy and putting the phrases through translator filter (freetranslation.com)

Sha-lam-ri-tee (used in different ways... like; shalam ri tee/ sha lam ritee etc)

A site take

A whole sewage

A site whole

Eh Kahn-kooz-ahn-eh: (same is in last)

Mast obstruct you

The mast + obstruct  bridge

Mast obstruct your bridge


(and I have no idea how correct this is) but... if you can make sense out of it... that's all that matters

(My grandmother talks to me in Finnish in my dreams.I don't know Finnish myself, so i have to use a translator. Sometimes it works.

None of those things make much sense :P I'm inclined to go with the random psychological noise idea, or perhaps it's a language that mundane translators can't understand :)

By Star And Sword,
~Jon~ :boing:

[Dumunzi]

This sounds silly.. -_-

[C. Iulia Regilia]

None of those things make much sense :P I'm inclined to go with the random psychological noise idea, or perhaps it's a language that mundane translators can't understand :)

By Star And Sword,
~Jon~ :boing:

Well, in babylonian, Shlamu means peace. Rittum means hand, so maybe Ritti = my hand

So so far I have

Peace in my hand

Second line is either

Akkadum ani (I speak Akkadian i.e Babylonian)

or

E-Kakabu ani

I am Star-Palace

or
E-Kakabu ana

I am at Star Palace

Though my akkadian is still pretty bad.

[Tobias]

Those words sound a lot like Charismatic/Pentecostal speaking in tongues, to me. Though I wouldn't say that the voice speaking them to you is the Holy Spirit... lol!

I speak in tongues when meditating or praying; communing with God. They are essentially nonsense words, spoken to express what our spirits feel inside that cannot be realized or put into sensible words because we do not know ourselves. It heightens the spiritual experience, imo.

There is also the phenomenon of false tongues that I've heard about, where demons imitate the words spoken in tongues and speak them back. I've never encountered it, so I can't be sure how or why it would happen. But this seems like a perfect example of such a case. A demonic entity speaking nonsense words in a condemning way simply to confuse you! The fact that he is being judgmental and condemning, and speaking confusing words all in a pseudo-Christian way, sounds rather demonic to me. :thumbsup:

Here's an example of Speaking in Tongues:

"Shandala-corah ma, seekiti raco toramah. Kittyamah sindalah he karamah shandalah..."

at least, the way I do it. :)

I hope this helps. :thumbsup: