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Wingéd Mermaid
May 28th, 2009, 01:39 AM
So here's my story:

Me and my husband have been due to move to Honolulu, HI. He's an ET in the US Coast Guard. It's been pushed back for a few months mostly due to paperwork.

So this is how things go. There are three separate parts in this: WorkLife, medical, and the Captain of the boat he's going to be on when we move. WorkLife is like a private company that works with the military (quite possibly just with the Coast Guard) that incorporates the fact that you work in the military and that you have a life, and they help military personnel and dependents with their lives. Medical is the people that handle medical aspects of everything.

We had to do over-seas screenings so that the military can see if we're fit to go over seas for this assignment. It's really silly since Hawaii is part of the United States and has great medical facilitates. Me and my hubby turned in our over-seas screening. The screenings and records are private. Only medical and (with permission- you sign a release form for this) WorkLife are allowed to see these records. Well, here's what happened. Medical got our screenings and took them to the Captian of the boat and reviewed them together. Medical said no to me- they said that I was too unstable to be able to handle it. The Captain of the Boat said no to my husband (don't know why). HOWEVER- they messed up. They broke the rules. Those records were private and they took them to the Captain instead of to WorkLife.

WorkLife says that we can fight this. But we can also let it go.

So my husband came home today and explained this all to me, and asked me what I wanted to do. We could fight it and if we win go on with the move as planned. Or we could let it go, give up Hawaii, and let the military do whatever with us. However, we would have no control over where he would be assigned, even though it's what he worked so hard for in A-School (he was honor grad and so got third pick of all available billets). In fact the most likely thing to happen would be that we would stay here, which is the very last thing that I want. It would be convenient for the military plus there are more openings here.

However, I hate it here. I don't do well in the city (winter was a horrible horrible nightmare for me) and me and the state of CA don't get along well. I HATE being in the city- I just can't live here and be happy. Too many people, too much concrete, too much crime and negative energy, and just.. I just can't do it. Plus I never see the moon, I never see the stars, and the ocean sucks. Even when it was actually summer weather and we went swimming at a good beach I didn't enjoy it at all. It never rains. It's okish warm during the day but it always gets freezing at night. The winters are icky.

My husband says we could move elsewhere but I honestly don't think there's anywhere in the 50 mile radius that he has to live in that could get us out of the city enough or at all.
Sure I'd be easier to fly back home if I want, but I don't want to make my life back home for the next three years, I want to make it where my husband is. And here? Here I'm miserable.

I've already come to terms with the move to Hawaii. I was looking forward to it! The island will be beautiful, the ocean great and clear with beautiful choral and life, the beach great, there's a dry side and a (beautiful lush green) rainy side of the island, and no light pollution from hell so I'll be able to see the stars and moon.. I've heard the people are great as well. I really do want to take a shot at life there. I know it could be great and I need this turn around more than I can express.

So.. we're going to fight it. And I hope we win. It's probably going to be hard and it's possible we will get flack from the higher ups when we get to Hawaii, but.. it's what I've decided.


Please send us positive energies for this. We're going to need it.
Thank you so much :)

Blessed Be.

Nesta
May 28th, 2009, 04:12 AM
Best wishes to you, energy on its way.

DreamSpell333
May 28th, 2009, 06:55 AM
Good Luck :hugz:

banondraig
May 28th, 2009, 08:06 AM
The Army considers Hawaii overseas too, just because of the vast distance between it and all the other states.

Good luck hacking through the red tape. Energy sent..

TygerTyger
May 28th, 2009, 08:28 AM
I was moved once, on promotion, and my wife agreed to it because we thought that things were (finally) on the up for us, but the people responsible for the move made a fine mess of it.

I fought them but really my only option was to return to where we started but curiously the transfer package was quietly altered after my case was (hardly) settled.

I do occasionally feel bitter about what happened but I also take some comfort from knowing that by putting up such a fight the government did change things to make such moves easier for others.

I hope you enjoy more success than I did and that you get to Hawaii!

:thumbsup:

MonSno_LeeDra
May 28th, 2009, 11:18 AM
Actually I think Worklife is blowing smoke up your ass. The commanding officer of an afloat unit is always briefed on anything that impacts upon his/her command. They also have the authority to deny the transfer of a person to the command if medical has presented information that shows they can not provide the needed medical treatment in the area.

To use the med as an example we have bases with excellent medical facilites all over. Yet Germany is the primary hub for all significant medical needs and MEDVAC flights come from all over Europe to take patients there. The same is true in Japan, all major items are sent to Yokosuka as that is the primary hub for Japan and Okinawa and Korea to an extent.

Unless medical is outsourced to the local community it really does not matter what is there. The ultimate decession will be made based upon what the service medical componet is capable of providing not the civilian sector.

Hawaii is considered overseas and more severe cases are sent back to the mainland for medical treatment. Severity based upon needs and availability of doctors to treat said need. Pearl Harbor has one heck of a medical facility but active duty are screened for that as well and if conditions warrent the gaining medical facility will send to Burea of Personal that they can not provide needed medical treatment.

My final assignment was in West Virginia and I still had to go through screening for remote duty assignment. My orders where initially held up because my son has ADD and the local medical facility could not provide needed medical treatment. My command had to agree to allow us to transfer there, Bethesda as host medical had to sign off as all we had was a remote medical clinic from Bethesda.

It may not be nice but I'm willing to bet his orders were denied based upon medical saying that they can not provide services for you should you need them.

I wish you luck but from past experience I'm not to positive you'll win.

Philosophia
June 1st, 2009, 08:15 AM
Sending positive and calming energy to you and your family! :hugz:

Lunacie
June 1st, 2009, 09:32 AM
Energy sent for you to at least get out of the city. :hugz:

bellamandu
June 1st, 2009, 09:39 AM
good luck on that one hun, i'd get used to it if i were you tho.

when i was with my ex husbund, i was supposed to move out to pendleton three months after we got married. it ended up being nearly two years before i got out there, and by that time all hell had broken loose. in all honesty i blame it for my divorce because of all the bs we went through because of it.