Man admits repeatedly biting 2-year-old

[Laisrean]

Link (http://www.ohio.com/news/break_news/50239722.html)


The Cheboygan Daily Tribune reports Schweibinz told the court he was frustrated that the boy had the habit of biting his brother and others. He says he wanted to teach the child a lesson but bit too hard.

Authorities say the boy had adult-size bite marks on his torso, back, neck, arms, face, buttocks and genital area. His mother also is charged with second-degree child abuse in the case. The boy and his 3-year-old brother were removed to foster care.

:wtf: Pay special attention to the part I put in bold.

[Xentor]

An eye for an eye, right?

[memnoch]

The highlighted part bothers me. However that does cure biting...assuming you aren't biting hard, only hard enough for it to hurt, I don't have a problem with it...but the genitals?

[Lunacie]

Many feel the way to teach a child to stop biting is to bite them back - but holy cow, all it takes is one bite.

One bite that does not break the skin.

Usually on an arm.

That guy is sick. :scream:

He's trying to camoflage his twisted sexuality by calling it discipline. BAH !

[Laisrean]

The highlighted part bothers me. However that does cure biting...assuming you aren't biting hard, only hard enough for it to hurt, I don't have a problem with it...but the genitals?

Agreed. There's no acceptable justification for a grown man to wrap his mouth around an infant's genitals. Hell, even biting a grown man on his balls is unacceptable in my opinion, but doing it to a child just smacks of pedophilia.

[PurpleCrow]

Thats awful!
I agree one bite that doesnt break the skin (and on the arm) is acceptable - hell my mum did it to me! I never bit anyone again.
Its definately the bloke just trying to cover up his sick sexual acts.

[evergreen]

I've never even heard of biting a child to teach them to not bite others. I was never a biter, so I guess that didn't have to be used on me, but my mother worked with children, some were special ed, and they tried to bite her and others, and she never would have stooped to the child's level and bitten them. I mean, that just makes me think, which one of you is the adult?!

I've been bitten by others and a quick smack or a few choice words cleared that up quick. Am I the only one who hasn't heard that its okay to bite a child for bad behavior?

Now biting the child that many times and in such inappropriate places is obviously a crime and he needs to be appropriately punished or given some sort of mental help.

[Lunacie]

I've never even heard of biting a child to teach them to not bite others. I was never a biter, so I guess that didn't have to be used on me, but my mother worked with children, some were special ed, and they tried to bite her and others, and she never would have stooped to the child's level and bitten them. I mean, that just makes me think, which one of you is the adult?!

I've been bitten by others and a quick smack or a few choice words cleared that up quick. Am I the only one who hasn't heard that its okay to bite a child for bad behavior?

Now biting the child that many times and in such inappropriate places is obviously a crime and he needs to be appropriately punished or given some sort of mental help.

Why do you feel one bite (that doesn't break the skin) is worse than a quick smack on the child's bottom? :whatgives:

Certainly you should start by telling the child "Ouch, that hurts. No more biting." But when that doesn't work, and it doesn't always work, one quick bite in return (no waiting, do it immediately) seems to help them understand how it feels to be bitten and they stop biting.

Kids with Special Needs such as Autism may not catch on by either telling them "Ouch!" or by biting them back. They have more trouble understanding Cause-and-Effect. We're struggling to get my granddaughter to understand "No more hitting", she's Autistic. With Autists it's usually best to watch for signs of emotional flooding and give the child some quiet time to unwind because most hitting by an Autist is simply a release of excess stimulation, too much sensory stuff happening.

[PurpleCrow]

Certainly you should start by telling the child "Ouch, that hurts. No more biting." But when that doesn't work, and it doesn't always work, one quick bite in return (no waiting, do it immediately) seems to help them understand how it feels to be bitten and they stop biting.

Thats why my mother bit me - to teach me that biting hurts and if I ever have children that bite me I will bite them back (immediately) and tell them that it hurts. Just telling a child not to do something usually doesnt work - they have to be shown IMO.

[evergreen]

Why do you feel one bite (that doesn't break the skin) is worse than a quick smack on the child's bottom? :whatgives:

Certainly you should start by telling the child "Ouch, that hurts. No more biting." But when that doesn't work, and it doesn't always work, one quick bite in return (no waiting, do it immediately) seems to help them understand how it feels to be bitten and they stop biting.

Kids with Special Needs such as Autism may not catch on by either telling them "Ouch!" or by biting them back. They have more trouble understanding Cause-and-Effect. We're struggling to get my granddaughter to understand "No more hitting", she's Autistic. With Autists it's usually best to watch for signs of emotional flooding and give the child some quiet time to unwind because most hitting by an Autist is simply a release of excess stimulation, too much sensory stuff happening.

Sorry, I didn't quite qualify what I was saying. I would smack when I was child and someone had bitten me.

I suppose if using words and explaining why you shouldn't bite, doesn't work, then a quick bite back that doesn't break the skin is fine. Still, it just wouldn't be the first thing to enter my mind. I would be much more likely to give a spanking then bite, but I am not a parent or even a sibling, so I haven't been put into that situation before.

Definitely it would be the wrong thing to bite an autistic child, though. You pretty much summed it up, they just don't have the same ways of understanding as a non-autistic child does.

[Kraheera]

My daughter was standing between my husband's legs once, we were at a barbecue. She leaned right over, and bit him right on the inside of the thigh. *wince* my daughter did not bite lightly.

So my husband picked her up, grabbed her arm, and bit her back. LOL. Not a mark on her, but you'd think we'd have murdered her for the scream from it.

Then again, she NEVER bit again.

[kristadb]

Why do you feel one bite (that doesn't break the skin) is worse than a quick smack on the child's bottom? :whatgives:

Certainly you should start by telling the child "Ouch, that hurts. No more biting." But when that doesn't work, and it doesn't always work, one quick bite in return (no waiting, do it immediately) seems to help them understand how it feels to be bitten and they stop biting.

Kids with Special Needs such as Autism may not catch on by either telling them "Ouch!" or by biting them back. They have more trouble understanding Cause-and-Effect. We're struggling to get my granddaughter to understand "No more hitting", she's Autistic. With Autists it's usually best to watch for signs of emotional flooding and give the child some quiet time to unwind because most hitting by an Autist is simply a release of excess stimulation, too much sensory stuff happening.

I have found that some kids need the bite back, while others simply need the "ouch! it hurts. Still others, need to have punishments that are completely different from their "crime."

Children are complicated. I don't understand why a water-proof manual doesn't come with them.

[Kraheera]

I don't understand why a water-proof manual doesn't come with them.


If anyone can invent one that we give to every new mother, that would be wonderful. *grins*

As for this guy... *shakes fist* I'd put a twelve foot pole up his rear end, then use a jackhammer to make it jiggle. Maybe he'd understand what violation means at that point.

[kristadb]

My daughter was standing between my husband's legs once, we were at a barbecue. She leaned right over, and bit him right on the inside of the thigh. *wince* my daughter did not bite lightly.

So my husband picked her up, grabbed her arm, and bit her back. LOL. Not a mark on her, but you'd think we'd have murdered her for the scream from it.

Then again, she NEVER bit again.

My half-sister (I wasn't raised with me, but I grew up around her) was a biter. She bit the animals, people, things whenever she was unhappy. She bit her mother once. Her mother bit her back. Hard. Didn't cut her or anything, but gave her a good bit.
She screamed bloody murder, but never bit again.

My youngest step son bit the cat once. He never bit again. Of course, there was blood that time. He learned that cats have very sharp teeth.

[Lunacie]

I have found that some kids need the bite back, while others simply need the "ouch! it hurts. Still others, need to have punishments that are completely different from their "crime."

Children are complicated. I don't understand why a water-proof manual doesn't come with them.

Yeah, there isn't a one-size-fits all manual for parents. But the "Love and Logic" books will work very well for most families.



If anyone can invent one that we give to every new mother, that would be wonderful. *grins*

As for this guy... *shakes fist* I'd put a twelve foot pole up his rear end, then use a jackhammer to make it jiggle. Maybe he'd understand what violation means at that point.

I'd suspect that the guy was violated himself as a child and his brain took on those patterns. It's not easy to repattern a brain, but it can be done. And then there are some brains that are just wonky and the person is a danger from the get-go.

[kristadb]

Logic? What's that? Does that still exist? :o

If the person biting back was under the age of 5, I could be convinced that this biting was just in need of a stern talk. But since the person is an adult, he needs a lot more than a stern talk. A lot more.

[Caitlin.ann]

Wow..way over the top.