MonSno_LeeDra
September 19th, 2009, 01:54 PM
This thread probably could go in a number of different spots but since I follow mainly a shamanic pathway I figured I'd place it here.
When one enters into the occultist / pagan / heathen / first world pathways they are introduced to a number of concepts that are not to be found in the Son religions. While there are many venues one could discuss, I am going to focus mainly on realms of reality and places.
As I have walked this pathway I have been introduced to the notion of the astral realm, the etheric realm, the mundane realm, the quasi-mundane realm and perhaps a dozen other's over the years. This doesn't even begin to touch upon the notion of the world tree and the upper / middle and lower world realms.
The mundane realm is pretty easy to identify, it is the realm we a living and breathing creatures reside upon. It is the physical world upon which we live and explore.
The astral and etheric realms are not so easy to define. Some say the astral is the border realm that is just beyond the mundane. It is the place where our spirits separate from the physical body and are allowed to move about without limits of time, space and distance. That place where we weave our magic’s and experience the energy, though it is described as positive.
The etheric is sometimes said to be the next out from the astral while others have told me it is more akin to a separate dimension of reality. Either way it is to me that place were energy is the form used and what we encounter there is not restrained by our notions of time, space and dimension. Almost as if it is the negative and energy source for those things outside our normal parameters.
Of point to my teachings one may reach the astral simply by projecting their spirit or undergoing an out of body experience. Yet to reach the etheric one must project the energy of self and its essence. A process where the mind stands a chance of being destroyed for all boundaries are gone.
The quasi-Mundane is more a special place we create for ourselves. It holds some facets of the astral in that it is reached via projection or OBE, but also is subject to the realities of our world. Yes we can push the barrier but much of it is still subject to the pull of the mundane.
One as a shamanic practitioner also faces the dimensions of self which some equate to the notion of the world tree or the three dimensions of upper world, middle world and lower world. Either way they (It) are more so a location contained within the practitioner and can be either simple or difficult to reach. To some it is the most dangerous of places for it is also the location of ones shadow self and that self has free range upon those plateaus.
There are other places that one may journey to, the Barrier or veil between the living and the dead, the vortex, even the abyss. Each defined and equated as we each understand and relate to them. But not all apparent to each calling nor believed to exist by them.
So how do you define the possible realms of your reality?
When one enters into the occultist / pagan / heathen / first world pathways they are introduced to a number of concepts that are not to be found in the Son religions. While there are many venues one could discuss, I am going to focus mainly on realms of reality and places.
As I have walked this pathway I have been introduced to the notion of the astral realm, the etheric realm, the mundane realm, the quasi-mundane realm and perhaps a dozen other's over the years. This doesn't even begin to touch upon the notion of the world tree and the upper / middle and lower world realms.
The mundane realm is pretty easy to identify, it is the realm we a living and breathing creatures reside upon. It is the physical world upon which we live and explore.
The astral and etheric realms are not so easy to define. Some say the astral is the border realm that is just beyond the mundane. It is the place where our spirits separate from the physical body and are allowed to move about without limits of time, space and distance. That place where we weave our magic’s and experience the energy, though it is described as positive.
The etheric is sometimes said to be the next out from the astral while others have told me it is more akin to a separate dimension of reality. Either way it is to me that place were energy is the form used and what we encounter there is not restrained by our notions of time, space and dimension. Almost as if it is the negative and energy source for those things outside our normal parameters.
Of point to my teachings one may reach the astral simply by projecting their spirit or undergoing an out of body experience. Yet to reach the etheric one must project the energy of self and its essence. A process where the mind stands a chance of being destroyed for all boundaries are gone.
The quasi-Mundane is more a special place we create for ourselves. It holds some facets of the astral in that it is reached via projection or OBE, but also is subject to the realities of our world. Yes we can push the barrier but much of it is still subject to the pull of the mundane.
One as a shamanic practitioner also faces the dimensions of self which some equate to the notion of the world tree or the three dimensions of upper world, middle world and lower world. Either way they (It) are more so a location contained within the practitioner and can be either simple or difficult to reach. To some it is the most dangerous of places for it is also the location of ones shadow self and that self has free range upon those plateaus.
There are other places that one may journey to, the Barrier or veil between the living and the dead, the vortex, even the abyss. Each defined and equated as we each understand and relate to them. But not all apparent to each calling nor believed to exist by them.
So how do you define the possible realms of your reality?