dangerous..?

[Ladysadefairy]

i saw a book today that was titled "Invoking the goddess"

and now am curious

is it dangerous to invoke the goddess...?


i dont plan to...as i am still learning and dont want to mess with something bigger then me ..

i havent even started doing spells yet

[Toki Wartooth]

If you're a beginner or perhaps even intermediate, invoking the Goddess may not always be dangerous, but it may be, uh, an experience. Invoking the Goddess, IMO, sounds more like something you save for when you're a more advanced, experienced, and learned practitioner.

[Amilee]

I agree. Invoking the goddess really isn't for a beginner or even an intermediate. It's not dangerous to do but the goddess can do some things that you won't be prepared for. :hugz: it doesn't hurt to read the book though. Sounds like an interesting read.

[Ladysadefairy]

interesting..

[Neville]

Hi there,

Could I ask,For what purpose is The Goddess invoked ?
Am I right in assuming The Goddess is "Sovereignty" i.eThe Earth in Celtic Paganism ?
If not..Which Goddess ?

Forgive all the Questions please, I am learning :)

Edit to add, I did a little research and found this;

http://www.widdershins.org/vol8iss1/07.htm

Am I right in assuming that us Men would not normally be invoking a Goddess? I am thinking that this sounds a lot like Trance Mediumship.

Love Neville

[EverChanging]

i don't have the most experience but it might be more than you're ready for.

[RoseKitten]

With magic, the best rule to follow, is that if the idea intimidates you, scares you, confuses you, or doesn't make sense, don't do it.

[Neville]

In my own experience, I consider RoseKitten's advice both Good and Sound :)


With magic, the best rule to follow, is that if the idea intimidates you, scares you, confuses you, or doesn't make sense, don't do it.

[RoseKitten]

In my own experience, I consider RoseKitten's advice both Good and Sound :)

I get one right every so often :lol:

[Neville]

Brightest Blessings RoseKitten,

For the Smile you gifted me

[EverChanging]

It sounds like it'd still be an interesting read though. like for studying purposes. Just because you read it doesn't mean you have to practice what you read.

[RoseKitten]

It sounds like it'd still be an interesting read though. like for studying purposes. Just because you read it doesn't mean you have to practice what you read.

I agree 100%, never stated that it wasn't good to read. Unless you have a teacher, reading is your best method for learning. Also, with a community this large, whenever a question comes up, all you have to do is ask. Although, be prepared for a lot of different responses. :)

[Torey]

I'm of the mindset that you will never experience anything if you're always too afraid to try. That being said, however, it's best to know what you're in for so my advice would be to read all you can about others' experiences in such a thing and even chat with those who have done it one-on-one.

I also don't really understand 'the Goddess' as a generic archetype...?

[Amilee]

The goddess is usually there to represent spirit in a ritual. She is rarely evoked except to bear witness to the ceremony.

Also, men evoke goddesses just as often as women do. It simply depends on your belief.


Hi there,

Could I ask,For what purpose is The Goddess invoked ?
Am I right in assuming The Goddess is "Sovereignty" i.eThe Earth in Celtic Paganism ?
If not..Which Goddess ?

Forgive all the Questions please, I am learning :)

Edit to add, I did a little research and found this;

http://www.widdershins.org/vol8iss1/07.htm

Am I right in assuming that us Men would not normally be invoking a Goddess? I am thinking that this sounds a lot like Trance Mediumship.

Love Neville

[Neville]

Thankyou for the clarification Amilee :)

[Leviivel]

Just to get an idea about what invocation can amount to in say, a worst case scenario, take a gander at the grimoire The Lesser Key of Solomon the King where many of the roots of invocation come from, at least in Solomonic Magic.

You can find it here:

http://www.sacred-texts.com/grim/lks/index.htm

[Ladysadefairy]

Just to get an idea about what invocation can amount to in say, a worst case scenario, take a gander at the grimoire The Lesser Key of Solomon the King where many of the roots of invocation come from, at least in Solomonic Magic.

You can find it here:

http://www.sacred-texts.com/grim/lks/index.htm

Thank yee , for the link and Information :thumbsup:

[Lilrodrigues]

i saw a book today that was titled "Invoking the goddess"

and now am curious

is it dangerous to invoke the goddess...?


i dont plan to...as i am still learning and dont want to mess with something bigger then me ..

i havent even started doing spells yet

Invoke as often as possible. Its the best way to get the hang and master it. Complications may arise but they will with more or less preparation, they always do and not always do we have a fitting response to every situation. The only way to actually get those swift responses is by invocating a lot and dealing with it, really.

[Leviivel]

I just looked at that link I gave you that I assumed would give you the actual graphics of the symbols of protection and they are not present. A truly powerful invocation ritual, IMHO, should accompany serious protection symbols. However, your patron deity, if you have a proper relationship, does not require such protection.

Familiarize yourself with your patron/matron deity and related symbols and you will be fine. The Goetia is mainly for protection against fell spirits and gives you the protection needed when invoking a spirit, protection that is necessary, especially for a novice, to guard against mistakes.

I guess it all comes down to who and how you are invoking and being familiar with the details of the "goddess" you are invoking. Respect is the key. I guess one could also debate the differences between evocation and invocation but I still say respect is the key in either case.

[WildThing]

Well it does depend if you mean a specific Goddess or whether you mean the generally specific THE Goddess, i.e. the feminine and divine aspect of the earth. There are some particularly dark and aggressive Goddesses in mythology, after all, and the general rule of thumb is; don't call on someone or something you're not familiar with.

I'm about to invoke the Goddess, too, but I'm not a beginner...or really interemediate anymore (even though I'm not sure if I'll ever fully get past the 'new' feeling, no matter how much I know)..and at first I felt a little nervous at the prospect, but the more I learned about invocations in general, and the closer I've gotten to my Goddess, the more awesome the idea feels. I just haven't found the time or THE right time yet to do it. It's not really dangerous to invite 'the" Goddess over to your house. However, like the others have said, it might give you an experience you're not prepared for. You're new, so take your time. There's no rush to do anything...and you're pretty much free to learn at your own pace. Focus on your spirituality and getting the basics down, though, if anything...if you want invocations to work, it really helps to know what you're doing. The worst that'll happen, is probably that nothing'll happen, heh.

[Deerwoman]

Something important missing from this thread is the difference between invocation and evocation. Invoking is requesting the presence of a god - they may come or they may not. Evoking is to invoke a spirit into yourself or another as in spirit possession - the person becomes possessed by the god.

It is not necessarily dangerous to invoke a deity, just make sure you are invoking the right one and not an imposter by using a proper invocation with the name(s) of the specific god you wish to call not just a generalized "I invoke you goddess". However evocation is another kettle of fish, it is dangerous and only experience practitioners can and should do it as there have been instances of serious injury and death - how can a god know your mortal flesh can't handle a body temperature of 10,000 degrees or that eating glass isn't good for your digestive system? There is also the trouble of getting the deity to leave, some really do not wish to go and it takes another experienced practitioner to make them.

[brymble]

Pardon me, I think you've got it a bit backwards.

The way I learned invoking and evoking is that evoking is to externally manifest an entitiy (such as manifesting one's feelings of power and strength to create a protective entity) and invoking was to internally experience an entity or god/dess (such as Drawing Down the Moon, etc.) Generally, evoking is used for constructs or "lower" or less desirable entities (stuff that you want on the outside where you can work on or with it more easily) and invoking is used with deities, and higher spirits like angels or ascended masters (stuff that you would benefit from spiritually by experiencing within yourself.)

The definition most in keeping with proper English grammar is that to evoke is to call forth, such as a feeling or an image ("The picture evoked a feeling of sadness,") or, in magick, a "lower" entity, and that invoke was to appeal to a greater power or authority, or a "higher" spirit or deity.

http://www.ehow.com/how_2384521_use-invoke-evoke-correctly.html

I have never, ever in my 20 years of practice heard "evoke" used to mean to take a spirit into yourself or referring to possession. As a matter of fact, the general consensus is that if you use evokation to work with the entity, it probably isn't something you want having access to your body and mind! Do you mind me asking where you learned that?

Please don't ask anything you evoke to possess you, unless you really know what you're doing!