Loba
February 11th, 2003, 10:08 AM
Hey hey everyone
My question goes like this: When we are able to <see things>, in what way is this usefull if they are things we just can not change? (Or can they be changed, after all?). Why know them, before some other people? What can i do with some of that information in advance?
What can i do, after all, with Divinatie?
I use Tarot (mostly),I-Tjing, medicine (or animal)cards, and am getting to know more about Runes, and working with smudge. Thou, every time i use a divination system, is to ask an advice. Sometimes the best behaviour to adopt towards a situation, or in a point of my life. Like if it is a friend. Thou, i never used any of this things to know what will probably happen, or < predict the future >.
On the other hand (and this is what brought me with time to know more about witchcraft and so on) sometimes i was able to know <certain things>. Since i reamember i always had that. Was hard for people to accept (those who had to lead with the situation then, or my parents and so).
When i was younger i experienced it in another way. Was something like: I was speaking to a friend, and sudenly turn to another one and words just came out of my mouth. I told the girl to make her bags (we were on vacations) and say Goodbye to her friends, cause something happened and her mother was about to come pick her, to take her back to Lisbon. (she laughed, and said she would stay till the end of the month). (And i, i was like: am i stupid or what?? Why the hell did i said that to her??).
Anyway, middle in the night the girl woke me up crying, telling her mom was at the door, and why have i said that to her.
I could just say sorry...
Then with time, this sort of things happened too related with death of someone. At school, in the first day where we got to know the teachers, i was looking to one of them, and dunno why, i said to my friends: She is going to be a widow. A friend asked: why do know that?. My automatical answear: I see it in the front of her head.
In the same day, later in the evening, her man died with an heart attack.
My friends choosed the silence, asked me nothing. Thou i knew they felt a sort of respect/fear. And the silence was then the best choice.
Often i thought: was this things my fault? Because i made the reality with loud words? But i know it wasn't just <me> speaking. So, i accepted it was a possibility, thou came a time i concentrated i didn't want this for me. Aymore. I was tired, and fearefull. I couldn't ask an advice to anyone. I closed myself, and made my best to deny this.
And it helped.
Later (after 1 or 2 years) it started again. Again related with <bad facts>. And this months it is getting huge. I have been trying to get calm, thou now it is becoming too often. If i am curiouse and in wish to know something (like about an interview my bf had to a job). In the morning i dreamed about it, and all the words i listened then, was what i listened later at the phone. All the same.
If i wake in the middle of the night, i know preciselly what time it is: hours and minuts. (To be sure i go to the kitchen and see it). Like this morning (more afternoon... ) Woke up, for 3 times, stayed in bed, and later i was like wondering what time would it be. 12:29 came to my mind sudenly. After a couple of minuts i tured the comp: 12:35...
My dead aunt. Exactly 2 weeks before she died, i told to my schoonfather: She will die in 2 weeks. And Exactly 2 weeks latter she died.
And for some reason i prepared everyone at work for the chance i would have to leave to Portugal (like was the case).
In Portugal my mother complained about the health from my father. She says she is sure something was going on, thou he never admitted. I told: Yes. It is right. He has got pain in the side of his belly. My mom asked: What side? I told: The left one. (Then i pointed it, on my fathers belly). He turned at me, and asked: How do you know that?? I told him i just knew.
It is indeed like that. But he says it isn't important, and so. I dunno if it is or not. Just in the moment things come out.
And now, my mom. And the reason i wrote all this, after all... My mother is having terrible health problems. All started on stress. It was always like that, thou now the are <coming> to my head. Yesterday i went like into <transe> looking at water in the shower, and i saw in my mind my uncle (brother of my mother) walking on a street, crying, cause of my mother death. And could see his eyes very good. The expression of it. How would it be if...
Then was like if i <woke up> again, and i felt very bad from my body. Felt suddenly very tired, a kind of pain, and i started to cry, because i went sort of afraid. Of what i have seen.
My mother is on my mind and i am doing my best to help her, by now. But, what can i do, after all? Why would i have to see the image of my uncle? What can i do with all this?...
This were just some of the things i experienced.
If someone asks me: Tell me something! - Probably i would just end up laughing, and answearing: I have nothing to tell you! (Because i don't do it when i want, or something.) Most i would be able to do would be get into transe and then see what would i listen too.
I am sorry i took here so many time. Thank you for the attention, and for listening to me.
Hug
Loba
My question goes like this: When we are able to <see things>, in what way is this usefull if they are things we just can not change? (Or can they be changed, after all?). Why know them, before some other people? What can i do with some of that information in advance?
What can i do, after all, with Divinatie?
I use Tarot (mostly),I-Tjing, medicine (or animal)cards, and am getting to know more about Runes, and working with smudge. Thou, every time i use a divination system, is to ask an advice. Sometimes the best behaviour to adopt towards a situation, or in a point of my life. Like if it is a friend. Thou, i never used any of this things to know what will probably happen, or < predict the future >.
On the other hand (and this is what brought me with time to know more about witchcraft and so on) sometimes i was able to know <certain things>. Since i reamember i always had that. Was hard for people to accept (those who had to lead with the situation then, or my parents and so).
When i was younger i experienced it in another way. Was something like: I was speaking to a friend, and sudenly turn to another one and words just came out of my mouth. I told the girl to make her bags (we were on vacations) and say Goodbye to her friends, cause something happened and her mother was about to come pick her, to take her back to Lisbon. (she laughed, and said she would stay till the end of the month). (And i, i was like: am i stupid or what?? Why the hell did i said that to her??).
Anyway, middle in the night the girl woke me up crying, telling her mom was at the door, and why have i said that to her.
I could just say sorry...
Then with time, this sort of things happened too related with death of someone. At school, in the first day where we got to know the teachers, i was looking to one of them, and dunno why, i said to my friends: She is going to be a widow. A friend asked: why do know that?. My automatical answear: I see it in the front of her head.
In the same day, later in the evening, her man died with an heart attack.
My friends choosed the silence, asked me nothing. Thou i knew they felt a sort of respect/fear. And the silence was then the best choice.
Often i thought: was this things my fault? Because i made the reality with loud words? But i know it wasn't just <me> speaking. So, i accepted it was a possibility, thou came a time i concentrated i didn't want this for me. Aymore. I was tired, and fearefull. I couldn't ask an advice to anyone. I closed myself, and made my best to deny this.
And it helped.
Later (after 1 or 2 years) it started again. Again related with <bad facts>. And this months it is getting huge. I have been trying to get calm, thou now it is becoming too often. If i am curiouse and in wish to know something (like about an interview my bf had to a job). In the morning i dreamed about it, and all the words i listened then, was what i listened later at the phone. All the same.
If i wake in the middle of the night, i know preciselly what time it is: hours and minuts. (To be sure i go to the kitchen and see it). Like this morning (more afternoon... ) Woke up, for 3 times, stayed in bed, and later i was like wondering what time would it be. 12:29 came to my mind sudenly. After a couple of minuts i tured the comp: 12:35...
My dead aunt. Exactly 2 weeks before she died, i told to my schoonfather: She will die in 2 weeks. And Exactly 2 weeks latter she died.
And for some reason i prepared everyone at work for the chance i would have to leave to Portugal (like was the case).
In Portugal my mother complained about the health from my father. She says she is sure something was going on, thou he never admitted. I told: Yes. It is right. He has got pain in the side of his belly. My mom asked: What side? I told: The left one. (Then i pointed it, on my fathers belly). He turned at me, and asked: How do you know that?? I told him i just knew.
It is indeed like that. But he says it isn't important, and so. I dunno if it is or not. Just in the moment things come out.
And now, my mom. And the reason i wrote all this, after all... My mother is having terrible health problems. All started on stress. It was always like that, thou now the are <coming> to my head. Yesterday i went like into <transe> looking at water in the shower, and i saw in my mind my uncle (brother of my mother) walking on a street, crying, cause of my mother death. And could see his eyes very good. The expression of it. How would it be if...
Then was like if i <woke up> again, and i felt very bad from my body. Felt suddenly very tired, a kind of pain, and i started to cry, because i went sort of afraid. Of what i have seen.
My mother is on my mind and i am doing my best to help her, by now. But, what can i do, after all? Why would i have to see the image of my uncle? What can i do with all this?...
This were just some of the things i experienced.
If someone asks me: Tell me something! - Probably i would just end up laughing, and answearing: I have nothing to tell you! (Because i don't do it when i want, or something.) Most i would be able to do would be get into transe and then see what would i listen too.
I am sorry i took here so many time. Thank you for the attention, and for listening to me.
Hug
Loba