could this be an incubi?

[beachdrifta]

i feel a little silly asking that.....but i had a dream when i was 16 that has stuck with me since then. it was so incredibly vivid...i can still remember small details. i can't seem to shake it.....and the other night i had a dream with the same guy. the dream went as follows (first dream.....kinda long...i apologize):
my friend and i were travelling along in a horse drawn buggy in the middle of the night (my friend was someone i had never met in real life...but was a dream friend.....). the road we were travelling was very rocky and in the middle of the woods......when all of a sudden we came upon a plantation. it was on a very large plot of land with sparse trees and huge lake off to one side. we asked our driver to stop so we could maybe get a room at the plantation and sleep there for the night. our driver helped us out of the buggy. i remember looking down then, to see that i was wearing a midnight blue velvet dress with a cream colored underskirt and i had very long curly brown hair that was not pinned up. my friend had very long brown hair as well, and was wearing a plum colored velvet dress with cream underskirt. we walked up to the door as our driver got our bags and as i raised my gloved hand to knock, the door swung open and a man was standing there. he had on a white peasant blouse, black riding pants, and black riding boots. he had shoulder length black hair and was somewhat pale. he said 'welcome to my home, i have been expecting you for some time now. please come in.' and waved us inside. the foyer was the most brilliant thing i had ever seen. EVERYTHING in the room was gold. the walls, floor, furniture, and decorations were all gold. there was a very large staircase that wound up one side of the wall (looking at it...it was the left side) with a very elegant red velvet carpet covering the stairs. he showed us to the room we were staying in, yet we were not quite tired yet so we decided to go out to the lake and talk for a bit.
all of a sudden we were at the lake. there was only one tree by the lake, and my friend was sitting under it while i stood and threw rocks into the lake. we were giggling about something and all of a sudden i heard a very loud intake of breath and turned to see if my friend was ok. she was gone. there was no where that she could have gone! no trees for her to hide behind and she certainly wasn't running for the house, when all of a sudden i heard a very soft splashing sound and a voice in my head said 'turn around.....and look at the lake.' so i did as was told. there in the center of the lake was the owner of the plantation......holding my unconscious friend. i dove into the water and swam as fast as i could.....when i got to the middle of the lake, i looked to the shore and there they were. the voice said 'you will not be able to catch me. there is nothing you can do now. it is done.' and they disappeared. i swam back to shore and as soon as i got out i was completely dry, and i started running for the house. i threw open the front door and there he was, sitting with his legs splayed and his back against the wall......and my friend in his lap. there was blood coming from a gaping wound in her chest......it was all over him, her, and the floor. i stood and stared for a moment and i tried to move to my friend to see if she was still alive and i felt this pressure on my chest.....as if someone was pushing me very hard. then all i could see where his eyes. they were a very light shade of yellow-green with flecks of gold and orange here and there. in my head he said 'you must now get away from here. before it is too late for you.' and the pressure on my chest continued to get harder and harder until i woke up not able to breathe. i had a terrible pain in my chest and the skin on it was somewhat sensitive to the touch and i could still see his eyes. i was just curious what this dream could either mean....or what this dream could be? i have never really heard about anything like this happening to anyone......and when i look through dream dictionaries, there is never anything in them that has to do with my dream. can anyone help me?

[beachdrifta]

lol no can help me? ah oh well. i've waited for years to find out...guess i can wait a few more hehe :) thanks anyway guys ! :)

[~*Ginger*~]

sorry beachdrifta.

To me this seems more of a 'vampire dream' than a 'visit from a incubus'. :whatmewor

[beachdrifta]

you think? hmmm that's interesting. i really was just trying to get some insight on this dream. even if it wasn't an incubi...maybe what it could mean?
a vampire? wow.....i've heard mention of vampires that took pieces of your soul....they weren't blood suckers. hmmm.
well thanks anyway :D

[cloud]

very interesting. i don't have anything to add though at the moment. i'm sorry!

[Cerulean]

Try identing the text and adding paragraphs. But it doesn't sound like an incubi to me.

[~*Ginger*~]

Try identing the text and adding paragraphs.
Yeah that does make for easier reading...

beachdrifta, try putting your dream into one of the online dream interpreters (http://websearch.cs.com/wm/search?query=online+dream+interpreter&fromPage=WMTResults&x=7&y=4)

[aida]

, it seems a lot like it could be a psychic vampire, though it seems, if it was one, that he got disturbed bicause you woke up when he had already left. In that case the pressure you felt was the energy being drawn from your heart-chakra. I really don't know much about them, or about their visits, but I only know that usually the victim wakes up when the vampire arrives.
Did you know the mans name? Was he familiar to you in any way?
if this has happened to you only once, then there's no danger. if it happened a long time a go, well, no danger at all.

[beachdrifta]

no i never learned his name. but i did have a dream not too long ago and the man seemed familiar. i couldn't see him well....but i think it was the same man from this dream. you know how you get that feeling when you meet someone that you have met them before? that's the feeling i was getting from him.....i dunno.

anyway thanks everyone for you help :)

[scarslet]

What is the difference between an incubi and a vampire? 'scuse my ignorance please...

[Cerulean]

I'm surprised that someone hasn't attempted to answer this question. I guess I'm the first know-it-all on the scene. Are the rest of you at a convention? Well . . . my understanding is that incubi and sucubi are disembodied spirits that come to the living in their dreams and couple with them, taking advantage of their sexual energy, perhaps because it's not otherwise engaged or perhaps, just because they want to and they're like that.


Earlier comment that occupied this space about a request for paragraph breaks was just in the interest of saving my eyes.

[Muireannach]

I think sometimes our mind can play tricks on us, and dreams that puzzle us make us think about them more...and then they will never leave. That is the logical response but I think the spiritual one would be a potential past life, perhaps not a vampire, but a murder? it all seems to be a dream set in a certain time period.

[~*Ginger*~]

Well above all, what does it mean to beachdrifta?
What do you get from it?
What were you reading or watching, before the dream?

[gyroWang]

.....and the pressure on my chest continued to get harder and harder until i woke up not able to breathe. i had a terrible pain in my chest and the skin on it was somewhat sensitive to the touch and i could still see his eyes......

Could you move right after wakeing up.

If not, it could be an episode of sleep paralysis, sufferers often wake up to find some nasty pushing, sitting etc on there chest. I've posted about the phenomenon here before if you want to try a search and there are loads of websites on it if you want to try a search on google.

If it is, then theres no chances of any harm coming to you through it, although episodes can be very scary.

[Mau]

Could you move right after wakeing up.

If not, it could be an episode of sleep paralysis, sufferers often wake up to find some nasty pushing, sitting etc on there chest. I've posted about the phenomenon here before if you want to try a search and there are loads of websites on it if you want to try a search on google.

If it is, then theres no chances of any harm coming to you through it, although episodes can be very scary.

This I can elaborate on..as I have experienced it for 6 years. This is where the supernatural vs. science comes in. You get the 'feeling' before actually trying to wake. It's kind of like a vibrating sensation, which stirs you and you may open your eyes. You can see all around you, but try as hard as you may..you cannot move or speak, it feels as if something is pinning you down. and you have this odd and very frightening sensation overwhelming you. I say 'may' open your eyes becuase I always had..until two nights ago, my eyes stayed closed and I couldn't open them..which I found is 100 times worse than experiencing this with your eyes open because #1 you cannot see, and #2 your mind can put images in your head that are the only things you can see.
The supernatural belief is that these are incubi and succubi which are malevolent spirits who enjoy screwing with people. They like to sit on your chest, scare you, take your energy, and it can even get sexual.
THe scientific belief is that this is sleep paralysis. Basically you somewhat wake..but your sub-concious mind is still at work. THis means that the concious messages you try to send to your body (move, speak) cannot be carried out as your concious mind is not in control. You are caught in a brief state of limbo between sub conciousness and conciousness where you can see and feel..but not react.
Either way, it is a terrifying experience.
What you experienced IMHO was not an incubi.

[gyroWang]

This I can elaborate on..as I have experienced it for 6 years.......

SNAP!!!
hehe well sort of snap.
I'm not sure when i first experienced this but it scares the pants off me everytime. Ever since it started i knew what it was but it still scares me. I average about once a month, sometimes not getting it for ages and other times getting it about 3 times a week. Eyes opened or closed doesnt matter to me, i still "sense" things as most hallucinations in this state are just out my visual range or in peripheral vision. Also get non visual hallucinations in this state, ie. feelings of something touching me.

Anyway, enough of that, the only other usuful info i have on this is that it can be triggered by stress and its often hiereditary.

[aida]

they might very well be the same thing. it's said that incubus attacks only on women.

[beachdrifta]

This I can elaborate on..as I have experienced it for 6 years. This is where the supernatural vs. science comes in. You get the 'feeling' before actually trying to wake. It's kind of like a vibrating sensation, which stirs you and you may open your eyes. You can see all around you, but try as hard as you may..you cannot move or speak, it feels as if something is pinning you down. and you have this odd and very frightening sensation overwhelming you. I say 'may' open your eyes becuase I always had..until two nights ago, my eyes stayed closed and I couldn't open them..which I found is 100 times worse than experiencing this with your eyes open because #1 you cannot see, and #2 your mind can put images in your head that are the only things you can see.
The supernatural belief is that these are incubi and succubi which are malevolent spirits who enjoy screwing with people. They like to sit on your chest, scare you, take your energy, and it can even get sexual.
THe scientific belief is that this is sleep paralysis. Basically you somewhat wake..but your sub-concious mind is still at work. THis means that the concious messages you try to send to your body (move, speak) cannot be carried out as your concious mind is not in control. You are caught in a brief state of limbo between sub conciousness and conciousness where you can see and feel..but not react.
Either way, it is a terrifying experience.
What you experienced IMHO was not an incubi.


hmmm this is not what i experienced, although i have experienced these grips of terror (that is what i call them) that you are talking about. what i felt was more like someone was pushing me very hard in the center of my chest, but there was no one there. the pressure disipated somewhat after i awoke, but there was a lingering feeling. it disapeared after about an hour though...if i remember correctly.

so i think the general consensus is that it is not an incubi. someone was asking what i was reading/watching/feeling? nothing that would cause me to dream like that....i never really watched scary movies, or read scary books when i was younger....i have an extremely overactive imagination and therefore would not watch or read anything like that. ah well i'll try the dream interpreter and see what comes of that :)

oh and cerulean i feel a bit of mean-ness in your comment. if i'm feeling wrong, please ignore this....if i'm feeling right.....just take what i said into a word program and insert some indents and paragraphs for me. i'm not an english major, nor do i feel the need to write as such.

thanks to everyone else who answered with something i could use :D

[~*Ginger*~]

ah well i'll try the dream interpreter and see what comes of that :)
If you feel like sharing what you get from the dream interpreter, with us that would be nice.

The dream was interesting....

[tensen]

Hmm, at 16, I'd see that possibly it was the strong bold man... (wow, look at all that gold)...
Tainting the lake, and killing your "childhood" friend.

Note, that you remember that both you and your friend had the same underskirts.
Which could be said in a different manner as "the same underneath".

Did you have a rough break from childhood to adulthood? Perhaps a bad sexual experience?

[docdoo]

Hi beachdrifta :)

I wish I had a bit more to add on your experience but I have never had this phenomena happen to me before! I guess what I wanted to say was that Im sure Cerulean wasnt trying to be nasty...I was corrected by someone on one of the first posts I made here.

I wear glasses (or rather contacts..hmm guess Im a bit vain eh? LOL) anyway it can be murder on the eyes when a post comes across that is one large paragraph. I guess I never realized how tough it can be to read one like that until it was pointed out to me....needless to say I went back and as I was reading my own post I found that my contacts began to stick!!!

In any case I think Cerulean was more pointing to the set-up of your post, meaning that when something is posted in one or two long, unbroken paragraphs many people will just buzz on by it without reading....this isnt done to be rude but rather to save your eyes :colorful:

In fact most of the time I just cant read one long paragraph because its just too hard to get a handle on. Its a shame that on a message board so much gets lost when you try to type something out...without the benefit of seeing someones face and hearing their voice it becomes difficult to discern whether a person is being nasty....or just misunderstood.

I wish I had more to add on your actual question...it sounds very interesting...I wonder if its a past life dream of murder like someone else mentioned??? Anyway I hope it works out for you in the end!

Til next time,