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Carol
November 23rd, 2003, 02:52 PM
Hi. I am writing this to ask for help with a vision my daughter had. She is 16 years old. When she went to bed last night, she said she was listening to her headset when a "vision came into her mind". She said she saw herself at her Aunt's house in KC, MO (my sister), and she was standing over her cousin, who was wearing a black dress. My daughter was comforting her cousin because she had just lost her one year old baby, Hayleigh. She said she just "knew" in the vision that there had been a funeral and that Hayleigh had died in a housefire, or something to do with electricity, and that her cousin blamed her because she had not moved in with her and helped her with the baby. She is really frightened by this vision because it has never happened to her before, although it has happened to most of us in the family. My mother had a vision four years ago where she saw herself standing in a funeral home, with a lot of flowers around her, and a week later, my brother died. I had a similar experience about twenty years ago, only this was a dream, and I didn't understand it. A week later, my brothers nine month old son died in a very tragic, preventable accident, and I don't want history to "repeat" itself. My daughter was very upset this morning, because she called her cousin and was 'blown' off by my niece, who told her to just forget about it, that it didn't mean anything. The ironic thing is, I just talked to my sister last week and told her I had a funny feeling about one of the babies in the family, that something was wrong, or one of them was sick, and I told my mother the same thing two weeks ago. I never mentioned I felt like one of them was going to die, but that is exactly what I feel, and with my daughters vision, I think fate is trying to intervene, but I don't know what else to do about it. I have sent protective energy to all the baby's in the family, telling the energy to go to where it was needed. What else can I do?

Carol Ann

sodken
November 24th, 2003, 12:14 AM
has anyone called the cousin and warned her.if primanition's(spelling)
run in the family then ide take it very serious.id warn her to check all
fire alarm's in her home.a little extra precaution cant hurt.
just my oppinion im sure someone better at this will explain better

Findarto
November 24th, 2003, 12:17 AM
Sounds like some ressesive form of clairvoyance or preminitions.

I would advice you to keep a close eye on the child.

Lamoondove
November 24th, 2003, 08:59 AM
Yep sounds like a prophetic Dream ,, And sounds like it runs in the family ,,
I have been reading lots about this lately ,, and if the prophetic dreams dont give ya enough detail ( The Book) says that nothing in ment to be done,, But that if you have unfolding details to warn one with , that you should do so ,,, If other is willing to receive warning,,,,,
Sounds to me like the other people want to blow it off and not head the warning ,, (( you know in your heart you tryed)) ,, and sending the energy is awsome thing ,,, it couldnt hurt none,,,,,
Keep us posted if you would ,,Please ,,,:) Thank you ,, Bright Blessings to you ~~ Merry Part

Carol
November 24th, 2003, 11:48 AM
Thank you all for your help. I am really afraid this 'vision' may be one that can't be stopped. Although my Mother, older sister, brother, and myself have all had visions and dreams that have come true, my youngest sister seems to be the only one in the family that doesn't have these abilities, nor does her daughter. My youngest sister is a very devout, and at times, fanatical, Christian who thinks these things are from Satan and should be treated as such. I know in my heart that God has given my family these visions and dreams for a purpose, and that they are neither evil nor demonic, and he has set me on the path of Spirituality that I am now taking. I have never felt so spiritually attuned as I have felt practicing Paganism, and I feel the spirit of Godness everywhere. I am sure my sister would literally have a cow if she knew I sent energy to protect her granddaughter, but it is no different than her praying for one of us when we are sick, is it? God takes on many forms, and helps in a myriad of ways we cannot even begin to fathom.

Carol Ann

Lamoondove
November 24th, 2003, 01:11 PM
Yes i feel this is true ...
I hope everything works out for You !!
Hugs Merry Part

Cerulean
November 25th, 2003, 01:46 AM
Shit. I posted a few weeks ago that there are everyone has to be very careful about fire now. I don't know about truth of this specific dream but you need to go over there and look at the specific thing (wiring?) with an electrician or what have you. Maybe you can say Jesus or Mary spoke to someone? You can go over there and say you saw sparks and call an electrician to look over all the wiring and the fire department to look for hazards. Be obnoxious!



Do something!

tensen
November 26th, 2003, 04:17 PM
From that vision I would say an electrical fire is possible.
But don't overlook the fact that it can just as easily be the opposite of that.

The warning is that something will happen. And that to care you can attempt to do something. Send love.

You carried your message. There is nothing more you can do. If you attempt to force the message, the relative will just fight back, and do nothing. And then both you and she will feel guilty when something happens.

If she cares for her child she will be careful about things, and then laugh about it later that nothing happened.. this is the good outcome. Please laugh with her. Be joyful and tell her you are grateful that she took your warning, even if it might have been wrong. This will show your love for one another.

If she tries to follow your warning and the child ends up dying a different way... well that was as things were intended. If you were extremely specific in the way things would happen and it didn't happen that way, she will blame you.

The answer is send love.

Cerulean
November 27th, 2003, 03:58 AM
I continue to find this situation to be profoundly disturbing. Were I you, I would contact the local fire inspector, fire marshall, fire department, building inspector or what have you and tell them about the wiring and the young child living inside. I woiuld ask them to go and inspect it, citing your relatives if necessary. Although some potential dangers aren't regulated, fire safety is, with inspectors and mechanisms to put things right that you could access.

Is there something you're not telling us about your feelings towards this branch of the family?

Aldrick
November 27th, 2003, 10:33 PM
I love Cerulean's obnoxious idea. Sounds so much like me. Do you/they have a golden dog by any chance? or the neighbours in their immediate housings? I dont know why I'm asking so feel free to call me psycho but I feel th need to ask. I also agree with electrical, however apart of me is holding onto two possibilities. Is there an old fashioned lamp they use for reading at night? I feel the bulb could cause problems aswell as a small possible oven accident.

Carol
December 2nd, 2003, 12:31 PM
I love Cerulean's obnoxious idea. Sounds so much like me. Do you/they have a golden dog by any chance? or the neighbours in their immediate housings? I dont know why I'm asking so feel free to call me psycho but I feel th need to ask. I also agree with electrical, however apart of me is holding onto two possibilities. Is there an old fashioned lamp they use for reading at night? I feel the bulb could cause problems aswell as a small possible oven accident.

funny that you should ask about a golden dog...my sister has several dogs, one, named sandy, is a golden red, and one of my dogs is golden, a beagle mix...the baby, however, is afraid of dogs, and her mother (my neice) was bitten on the face by a golden colored chow when she was three or four, leaving a scar...and as for the 'lamp'...yes, on the wall in one of the bedrooms are old fashioned light fixtures, the kind you see in movies, one on either side of the entrance into the bathroom...but those fixtures never worked when we lived there...

Aldrick
December 2nd, 2003, 12:44 PM
Not working then or now doesn't mean that them being plugged in can't cause something electrical. Infact it's all the more likely, I'd suggest removing them, but subtly if you didn't want to panic anybody, replace them with new ones which match the rooms and say how lamps like that are dangerous or something.

I only asked about the dog because I saw the dog walking in a tiled kitchen floor down some stairs to what looked like a family room. A little girl with pigtails was playing, in a nice dress, green with some white, or flowers, some kind of design I think. I saw a light on in the distance which is why I inquired about the lamps. I just wished to help, what I saw could probably be totally false, Like I said feel free to call me crazy

Edited to add: Please check the chistmas lights and be careful they dont place all the plugs into one thing

Carol
December 2nd, 2003, 12:47 PM
Is there something you're not telling us about your feelings towards this branch of the family?



As in most families, there are certain areas that could be called tempestuous, though my sister and I have always been very close, we still fight (argue) about so many things...our views on christianity and spiritualism are so far apart as to be in different spectrums of reality, it seems...she is die-hard, fanatical fire and brimstone christian with no room for any other beliefs save for her own rigid, narrow views of who God is, and I am, in her eyes, walking a tight-rope to perdition because I have questions about who and why I am, and who God is...okay, don't get me started, there ain't enough room on this page...lol, and that was her view before I started researching Paganism, and was still charismatic christian...which is her religion by the way, so go figure...needless to say, I haven't told her about my Pagan ways...so yes, there is some resentment and strong feelings there, she saying I overreact to her views and that I am too sensitive, and me not being able to get a word in edge-wise...her views tend to change from day to day, depending on her mood, and I am just at a place in my life where I want everything to make sense and not change, and Paganism is one aspect of spirituality that has not changed through the milleniea (sp?)...sigh, but I love her and I always will, and don't want anything bad to happen to her or anyone in her family because they are very special to us...

Carol Ann

Autumn Clair
December 2nd, 2003, 01:04 PM
With something like this all you can do is tell them of her vision. It's up to them to believe or not. Visions are given to guide us in doing the right thing which is helping them come to terms with what is going to happen. Sometimes your not meant to stop it but to comfort those who go thru it and help them in their time of need. It's not like she's causing it to happen and believe you me when you first start having visions you wonder.
Sometimes though it's not always the person the vision is about with me it's a connection like connect the dots. I had a vision my brother would die, it was my grandfather. I had a vision my friend died in an accident, it was my brothers friend who was my friends brother. So you might also want to go the root too just to cover all bases. Cause visions change as you grow an adjust to them. My last one was of my husbands grandfather they were going to pull the plug and it warned to wait one day. They waited and he woke up and said goodbye to everyone and died that evening. Visions have many meanings and she will be scared at first but her job isn't to change things always but to sometimes help others see it was meant to happen it's their time to pass and we can not change that. When it's your time, then it's your time..........

I hope she's all right and can find her way through this. It is a gift but you don't always feel that way. It helps to just hear her out when she has a vision and talk it over what it could be meaning for her to do. Sometimes the other side needs the help and that's where seer's come in. To guide, intervene and comfort.

Carol
December 2nd, 2003, 01:49 PM
[QUOTE=Autumn Clair]
I hope she's all right and can find her way through this. It is a gift but you don't always feel that way. It helps to just hear her out when she has a vision and talk it over what it could be meaning for her to do. Sometimes the other side needs the help and that's where seer's come in. To guide, intervene and comfort.[/QUOTE

I think she has already forgotten about it, which is pretty much what I did the first time I had a precognitive dream and it came true...i was twenty one years old and I freaked out! I begged God to take this 'gift' away from me, becaue if I couldn't help with it, I didn't want it...of course, I didn't have anyone to help me with these dreams and visions, as I am trying to help my daughter...i have learned through the years that you can't run from them, that the only measure of peace that can be found is in working with the visions and trying to ascertain their meaning...a warn now, think later approach that has seemed to help in my family...my daughter comes from a long line of precognitive dreamers and seers of visions, so she comes by it honestly, although most in the family have only now begun talking about it openly in the past four and a half years since my brother died. A week before he died, my mother had a vision of herself standing over a casket in a funeral home with flowers all around...she has always had an uncanny ability to predict funerals, although she has never been able to tell who is going to die...most of the time, these predictions, or precognitions, don't bother her as much as the one with my brother did, and she says that is how she knew it was going to be someone in the family. Growing up, I remember my Mom being the most down to earth, non-spiritual person I have ever known. Her Grandmother was a spiritualist, and would meet in the back of a church for seance's when my Mom was a little girl. Her mother and Aunt were devout Christians, and when the spiritualist church scared my mother, her mother wouldn't let her go back. My Mom has been Catholic for over twenty years, but I think the visions and dreams she has tried to suppress out of fear are no longer dormant, and she is opening up to a whole new world of spiritualism because of it. The visions don't scare her, she says she always feels at peace with them. She has seen figures in her house several times, they are watching her, she says, when she sees them, but they don't scare her. And always from the torso up, she never sees the whole person, just a torso, arms, heads with foggy or misty features. The night before my brothers funeral, she had a dream about him. He was in white, and she could only see his torso, arms, and head. He said to her in his dream, "Mom, my heart killed me." When the autopsy report came back a few days later, he had died of a massive heart attack (he was only 40 years old). That dream, and her vision before my brother died, are the catylysts, I think, that re-awoke her psychic talents. I think that is why I have been so interested in Paganism, and have let my daughter study it, knowing my Mother has touched on these things, and that it is okay, not an abomination, and certainly not wrong.

Carol Ann