Collective Energy for the Depressed

[AuroraSilvermist]

I've been in a deep, dark place for several weeks now. At the moment, it seems like there's no end in sight. I feel like a failure. I can't stop crying. And I know I'm clinically depressed. I've been there before, and I recognize the classic symptoms easily enough. It's difficult to pull out of the spiral, but with some help and medication, I know eventually I will. That's the one thing that keeps me going.

I know that MANY people suffer the same hopeless feelings, especially during the dark months of the year. Even with spring just around the corner, winter can seem so long. So, while we await the Goddess's gift of springtime, perhaps we could all collectively send energies for those of us who are suffering depression at this time of year, wether the cause is seasonal or situational or both.

I know when I light my candles this week to meditate and pray for strength, I'll be thinking of the many others I know who are in the same sad place. Please add your thoughts, energies and needs to this thread. Let's work together to birth some hope for those in need.

:huddle:

[Gala]

I too suffer from chronic depression. I have been on Effexor for 8 years. From time to time I try to get off of it, with horrible results. I hurt myself, so I've learned my lesson.
I finally got the dosage right after playing around for 7 and a half years. I just hate taking it. I wish I was on some other kind of med. But this is what was first given to me and I can't get off it. I still have problems with it when I have a fight with my husband or my daughter. Sort of uses up the medication, so I am learning to avoid them.
So yes I really think this is a good idea.
:spaceman: lets remeber each other and send positive vibes.

[Cerulean]

Some say depression is anger turned inward. If you were mad, who would you be mad at?

I'm mad right now that I can't get quiet in the computer cafe where I am.

I'm mad at the world that makes life impossible.

I'm mad at my city and those who run it for the greedy, not the average citizen.

I'm mad at the world for being unihabitable and getting worse.

It makes me really, really pissed off!!!!!!!

So there.

Now you----

[Hoot]

Joining in to send love and energy to keep going in life's darker moments.

:huddle:

[alexx]

energy sent to all who are currently in such a dark place
xx

[twolunarspring]

There are no people in this world who never feel like that. It is impossible... at times it seems that the world was not designed for happiness, that goodness doesn't fit. That is what capitalism does for us.

However, there are relatively few who do not feel better... few who do not recover, recuperate, rejoin the game. We all have bad days and dark times, but also we all experience light and love and brighter moments. This is what we must all hold out for. This is why we must keep each-other above the water.

And we will.

[Pesha]

As I too suffer from depression, allow me to send you lovelight and energies and please know that I will meditate for your recovery and also your name is going on my special list sweetheart. {{{{ASM}}}

BB
DS.

[Tea Leaf]

Sending Healing Energy and Light -May it lite your way through the darkness-

[SaberWolf]

I know depression all too well. It runs in both sides of my family, and I was in one as a kid, that lasted from when I was 6 or 7 'til I was 13 or 14. If it helps, maybe you need a familiar, like, a pet dog or cat or guinea pig. ooooh, get a guinea pig! then you can make him some cardboard and ribbon wing to strap to him and call him Bee: Megatokyo's Boo's uncle, from the popular webcomic Megatokyo! ^_^ ~<3

[Amadeus]

I've been in a deep, dark place for several weeks now. At the moment, it seems like there's no end in sight. I feel like a failure. I can't stop crying. And I know I'm clinically depressed. I've been there before, and I recognize the classic symptoms easily enough. It's difficult to pull out of the spiral, but with some help and medication, I know eventually I will. That's the one thing that keeps me going.

I know that MANY people suffer the same hopeless feelings, especially during the dark months of the year. Even with spring just around the corner, winter can seem so long. So, while we await the Goddess's gift of springtime, perhaps we could all collectively send energies for those of us who are suffering depression at this time of year, wether the cause is seasonal or situational or both.

I know when I light my candles this week to meditate and pray for strength, I'll be thinking of the many others I know who are in the same sad place. Please add your thoughts, energies and needs to this thread. Let's work together to birth some hope for those in need.

:huddle:
*EDITED BY MOL: Prosletyzing is not allowed here*

[DanuMoonrunner]

Uh! Oh! Troll alert!!!

[DanuMoonrunner]

I will add you to my prayers ((all who suffer from depression))). I have to keep reminding myself that Spring is just around the corner. My son and myself suffer from seasonal depression. Living in a basement apartment doesn't help! Try to focus on the good things alittle at a time. That seems to help Hugs and energy to all who suffer.

[Faery-Wings]

As one who seems to be surrounded by depression within, and without, I will light some incence this morning for all of you.

Funny, this morning, as I woke up, my prayer to the Goddes was that she blanket all of those in need with Her love and warmth. Usually I am more specific with my thoughts, but today, I really felt like I needed to send it out more universally.

Blessings, love and energy to those who need it.

[Kalika]

Positive energy to those of you who need it... it is here. I need it from time to time as well.

And, just a thought, that this is a good place to come during those dark moments... take a breather, and remember that we're a family here. :)

Blessings,

Kalika

[Thistle]

I've struggled with depression for most of my life. After a long period of being anti-depressant free, I'm back on meds again. Don't like having to do it, but it does seem to help, so. . .I do. If I have to take them for the rest of my life, so be it.

I'll keep all those who are depressed in my thoughts and prayers.

[Gala]

You know what Thistle. I discovered one day. If I need the meds to live a functioning, happy life. I'd just have to have them. I tried so hard to get off of them, but it was back under the bed, or in the closet or in the bathroom sticking my self with needles and staples. So I can't do that anymore.

It is a chemical thing not a psychological. Psychological problems, extreme stress or trauma might trigger it, but once it's messed up. It's messed up and you can't pray it away. You can make it go away for a while, but if you get off the meds it will come back. Just like anyother mood disorder, psychotic disorder, etc. It is chemical thereby physical.
I'm not lecturing you Thistle, but others that may think you can "will" it away or "pray it away". I have had people who tell me about my phobia...just don't think about it. HA I say HA! It's like not thinking about breathing. It's part of your life and you just have to learn to deal with it the best you can. I pushed my away. But now and then. It pops out. But I know it'll be gone soon and I can do what I am supposed to do again.

ok off the soap box.

[Xentor]

My dear, you are looking for help in the wrong place.(...)
Love and prayers, Amadeus


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[Mab]

Some say depression is anger turned inward. If you were mad, who would you be mad at?

I'm mad right now that I can't get quiet in the computer cafe where I am.

I'm mad at the world that makes life impossible.

I'm mad at my city and those who run it for the greedy, not the average citizen.

I'm mad at the world for being unihabitable and getting worse.

It makes me really, really pissed off!!!!!!!

So there.

Now you----

I'm mad that people seem to be getting progressively more & more stupid & rude.

I'm mad that my marriage didn't work out.

I'm mad that my boyfriend won't commit, but he won't leave either.

I'm mad that I'm madly in love w/somebody who won't be with me.

I'm mad that I'm almost 30 w/no apparent hope of being a mommy any time soon.

I'm mad that I can't seem to focus lately.

I'm mad that I go to bed alone every night.

I'm mad that nothing ever seems to be easy for me. Ever.

I'm really really really really frickin' pissed off!!!

And I'm mad that there's nothing I can do about any of it, really. I feel helpless, and so I'm exhausted & weepy & sitting in a dark dungeon of depression & resentment & I hate it.

But I know I will come out of this darkness. I just know it is a cycle for me. And I hate this part of it.

:heartbrea

[Mab]

My dear, you are looking for help in the wrong place. I am afraid your Goddess won't help you. The only one who CAN heal your wounds and make you whole is the God of the Bible. The love of His Son, Jesus, surmounts any love you may search for anywhere else. Do you eer wonder why life seems so hopeless? It i because you are hoping in the wrong gods.
Love and prayers, Amadeus

I respectfully disagree. As a Christian and a witch. When I was suicidal over an irreparably broken heart (prior to any thoughts of witchcraft or paganism) & prayed & prayed to God through Jesus, God was silent. No comfort, no healing, nothing came to me. Perhaps it happened for you, and if so, wonderful. But perhaps it doesn't happen for others.

I also must question your reason for being a registered member on this site. It sounds rather like you are here not to simply share or exchange ideas, but rather to convert.

Respecting your choice--

[Flar's Freyja]

And I'm mad that there's nothing I can do about any of it, really. I feel helpless, and so I'm exhausted & weepy & sitting in a dark dungeon of depression & resentment & I hate it.

But I know I will come out of this darkness. I just know it is a cycle for me. And I hate this part of it.

:heartbrea

:hugz:

Yes - you are right. To heal, grow and be whole, we must first go stark, raving, mad. This is one of the darkest points of the journey and there will be many more. But the dark nights often help us appreciate the light when it comes.

Remember that even in the deepest dark the light does shine.

[Isil Darkmoon]

I have feelings on this going both ways...

I will send what energy I have to spare, with wishes of hope, light, and joy, in the direction of all of you.

I do so because I also know how it feels, dealing with normal and seasonal depression and an anxiety disorder myself. It feels very, very dark right now, and I know I long for the light as well.

Maybe where none of us feel strong enough to stand alone, together we can all hold each other up...

[Cerulean]

"There are no people in this world who never feel like that. It is impossible... at times it seems that the world was not designed for happiness, that goodness doesn't fit. That is what capitalism does for us." ----TwoLunarSpring




Right on!

How much of this is us trying to live in a world where our desires and needs are thwarted and all the good things are hoarded by a few?

I'd say, a lot.

And damn them.

[LadyOak]

Depression is very scary...very real...I hurt for all who feel depression....

[dragonkin]

Sending positvie love light to all of those feeling the depression during the dark months. ((((((To All)))))

[Cerulean]

Sending Prozacs through the ether.

[BellaWild]

I've been clinically depressed since I was 14. It's hard for my family and closest friends to understand what it's like, so when I'm in "the hole" I feel so alone. I know I'm not the only one to feel this way, so I will light candles for all who have to deal with this monster.

[Gala]

So how is every one else... are you fighting the good fight?
Are you coping with the day to day?

We have to stick together, cause those who haven't ever had it... it's very hard for them to know how we feel. Not that they don't understand. But it's kinda hard to relate to being in the bottom of a closet with the door closed, curled up in a ball wishing you never had to see the world again.

Well I have had a really bad week depression wise. Forgot my meds until very late on Friday so I had a really bad night. Today was awful at work which doesn't help the depression/self esteen/wanting to lash out at something-even if it's myself- thing. I'm sure it'll get better, but right now it doesn't look so good to my seratonin depleted brain.
So. Write me and tell me how good or awful you have been. Well cry and laugh together.

[Woven Spirit1976]

Depression,,,is there a word that can describe it better than the word itself. I have hit rock bottom before, but never over a man. I just thought I had hit the bottom til now. I am so tired of hurting, and of searching for a love to call my own. Just plain tired. Maybe someday we can read back on our thoughts and feelings here, in hopes of not hating the world so.

For the moment, my Passion has turned to Hatred. :rant:

I hope that you all are much better today than I....sorry I sound so depressing. Oh, well, You would be the ones who would understand though.

Take care of you!!!

[Faery-Wings]

I will be lighting more incense this morning for all of you. Hubby's depression and my own is somewhat better- yet the fears and anxieties still lurk. Do they ever truly go away?

[LadyOak]

For me it has never gone away...but we can hold it at bay

[SacredWithin]

Some say depression is anger turned inward. If you were mad, who would you be mad at?

I'm mad right now that I can't get quiet in the computer cafe where I am.

I'm mad at the world that makes life impossible.

I'm mad at my city and those who run it for the greedy, not the average citizen.

I'm mad at the world for being unihabitable and getting worse.

It makes me really, really pissed off!!!!!!!

So there.

Now you----
I’ve felt this way too. In a way, it seems winter is such a dangerous time, it seems to dead and I myself only like snow for one reason, no school. But I think that perhaps I can add my insight.

I too worry very much for the world. But I’ve finally learned how to turn such anger into positive energy. I decided that I want to help the world. I’ve been reading all sorts of books for example, the Conversation with God series which provides excellent insight and new hope. (You can check out the website @ http://cwg.org) But prior to reading those books, I’ve felt the need to help people to understand. I believe I’ve grown so much spiritually in the past two years and with that, I teach everyone everything I know that I think will help them. I think the way I’ve dealt with my anger towards the world is to not look too much into how the world pisses me off. Instead, I look at the things in my life. I look at the situations that come up and see how they can be fixed and what is a good way to do it without doing more harm than help. I believe the internet was another wonderful tool I have used to try to promote Peace since currently I do not have the necessary equipment to go around and so things.

I live by a few basic codes. The basic rule of the Wiccan Rede (An harm ye none, do as ye will.). I also try to keep in mind what Gandhi said “You must be the change you wish to see in the world”

And then to help me remember that people make mistakes all the time, I remember that we are all trying to go to the same place and that is to become one with the creator. (This is my personal belief, and it may not work with those who do not believe this).

And then I also remember the many teachings and hardships that Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. went through and a lot of other activists and the tremendous work they’d done. They wanted all people to be free, not just the group they were categorized into.

All this is what keeps me going. And along the way you find more hope.:)

[Gala]

Depression,,,is there a word that can describe it better than the word itself. I have hit rock bottom before, but never over a man. I just thought I had hit the bottom til now. I am so tired of hurting, and of searching for a love to call my own. Just plain tired. Maybe someday we can read back on our thoughts and feelings here, in hopes of not hating the world so.

For the moment, my Passion has turned to Hatred. :rant:

I hope that you all are much better today than I....sorry I sound so depressing. Oh, well, You would be the ones who would understand though.

Take care of you!!!

The hatred is good, it's better than the sadness. It is healthy to be angry and place the blame where it goes, rather than upon yourself. Just don't let the anger rule you. It can also be destructive.
Hold on. Light some candles for yourself. Sense your house with sandalwood or frankinsense, or sage. Let the smoke carry the "bad" away.
Meditate if you can.

Know that you are loved. :hugz:

[Gala]

I will be lighting more incense this morning for all of you. Hubby's depression and my own is somewhat better- yet the fears and anxieties still lurk. Do they ever truly go away?

for me it never truely goes away. NO matter how "high" I get, how good I feel, I know that the horrible grinding sadness is there and could come back.

I screwed up last night. I take my anti depressant in the morning. I also take vitamins, blood pressure in the morning. At night I take a heart pill and other vitamins. So I keep them all in their own little box. I took this mornings, ---Last night--- so I don't know how that will effect me.
It is horrible to have to have your whole life effected whether you take this red capsule.
or not. I'll have a headache, jitters. I don't know what else.
I too am tired of all of this. But what can I do. This is my life.
Just glad we are here together.

[Knight]

I have been fighting depression since my teens. I'm now 42. Welbutrin helped for a short while, but it became less effective over time, and the dosage had to be increased, with increased side effects. I went off of it by choice.

I am very blessed to have Cathy in my life. She loves my like no one else has, like the song lyric, "You were better to me than I was to myself." When I get really down, she helps me back up.

Rituals, meditations, and visualizations also seem to help. In fact, for me, they seem to work better than meds, and without the side effects.

Don't give up. Keep hoping. Keep trying. Keep fighting. We are not alone, and together, we can rise above it.

[Gala]

Knight. my daughter is taking prozac and welbutrin... Concerns me that she is taking two meds. But she said the prozac made her sleep all the time.
What are the side effects of the welbutrin?

[AuroraSilvermist]

My daughter is taking prozac and welbutrin... Concerns me that she is taking two meds. But she said the prozac made her sleep all the time.
What are the side effects of the welbutrin?

I took Wellbutrin about 8 years ago. I had what doctors considered to be an allergic reaction to the medication (my anxiety level went through the roof and my depression got worse), but I honestly wish I could take it. The side effects are really minimal, and a lot better than the side effects for some other anti-depressants.

Wellbutrin (bupropion) is the same drug found in Zyban , the medication to help smokers quit. It's effective in cutting down cravings not only for nicotene, but it sometimes alleviates food cravings, too, so there's a minimal risk of weight gain. My doctor told me that it's very useful for those who have ADD (Attention Deficit Disorder) or ADD-like symptoms (difficulty focusing). It's also one of the few anti-depressants that DOESN'T have a high risk for sexual side effects (as in you begin to fear you'll NEVER have another orgasm again for as long as you LIVE!...but that gets better over time. :lol: ).

There are the other typical side effects like dizzyness, dry mouth, nausea, etc. Those don't seem to effect most people, and when they do, they don't tend to linger after the person's been taking the medication for a while. I know Wellbutrin has a website, and you could look up the side-effects and warnings if you wanted to. Just google "Wellbutrin" and you'll get a wealth of information.

I've never heard of a doctor prescribing both Prozac AND Wellbutrin. That seems very odd to me. Since my sister-in-law had a problem with a psychiatrist severely over-medicating (not to mention misdiagnosing!) her, I tend to err on the side of caution with such things. Drugs are powerful! Perhaps your daughter should seek a second opinion. Just because a doctor or psychiatrist has an advanced degree doesn't mean he or she is infallible.

Good luck!!

Aurora, the walking pharmacy... :rolleyes:

[Gala]

Thanks Aurora, I'll see if I can convince her to check into it.

[Jenet]

I was diagnosed with depression at 15 while I was going through my GCSE's and they put me on antidepressants then, (I think they were effexor but it's been a while) they helped just fine as long as I remembered to take them but then when my exams were finished and the stress levels decreased the doc suggested I come off them, that was a bad time for me. Having not been given the choice of going on meds or counciling in the first place and then to be taken off them with little or no warning about how it would affect me - very not impressed.

Since then any major stress levels will set it off again, the excessive need for sleep, the anxiety attacks about everything, the evil mood swings...you know the drill. I've consistantly refused more meds though, I don't want to be on them for good and I don't want a repeat of what happened last time, plus, to be honest, I've never felt that it was "bad enough" I figure that I have people who will stand by me and help me and that I have less right than others to be taking up the time and energies of those who can hand out more solid help. I hope I don't sound like I'm ranting at people that are on meds, I don't mean to, I just wanted to add my two pence to the thread.

Luckily I'm in a good place at the minute, I've just sorted out one of the major stresses in my life and am feeling all glowy. Energy and support and love to all those who are not so good right now, I'm always here and I know what it's like.

Jenet

[Gala]

I take effexor and in my opinon it is the worst one around. It is highly addictive, physically, and too hard to get off of.
I've been on it for ... since 96? I think. I wish I didn't have to take it. But the alternative is just too horrible to think about.
Anxiety attacks are at a minimun. though I do still have them.And high stress levels do set off the depression even with the meds.
I won't try to get off of it again ...not without being under a drs supervision or even in a hospital. It's like a junkie trying to get off dope. I have shakes, headache, stomach upset, I can almost feel the synapses in my brain firing. No...no...it's not fun.

But the same for you Jenet. we are here for you.
And you might want to research what other types of meds are like to get off of that way if you do ever feel like you need something. You will know the one to take for you...
I know that when you get into that pit, sometimes you are too low to help yourself. Don't let it get that far. Get on here and pm us... any or all of us. OK?