PDA

View Full Version : Do you recall the burning times?



Phi
March 24th, 2004, 05:02 PM
Since I was a young girl I have "remembered" sometimes being burned, sometimes a child watching my mama. I once rationalized it as just extreme empathy, but looking back I realize that I had these "memories" before I was old enough to know history of them.
Does anyone else here have anything similar to this?

Phoenix Blue
March 24th, 2004, 05:23 PM
Since this is pertinent to past life regression, I'm moving it to the Divination forum.

Calzaer
March 24th, 2004, 05:24 PM
Yup.

Oh, and, as long as we're on the subject... if any of you folks happen to stumble onto a lake in Scotland or Wales with an old abbey or monastery on a hill visible from the the banks (maybe 4-6 km away, to the east IIRC), could you perhaps poke around in the reeds/mud on the south side and let me know if you find a rather large, locked box? I'd really appreciate it.

SylverStar
March 24th, 2004, 07:33 PM
When I was 14 or 15 I had a really strong vision of being burned at the stake. I was about 28 and it was for being a witch. I could hear yells and screams and things were thrown at me. And the smell. Yeah it was a pretty shocking vision. I haven't had anything like it before or since. It wasn't very long and though there was fire burning around me the vision didn't last long enough for the actual fire to reach me.

blueiris
March 24th, 2004, 08:00 PM
Whoa, that's quite creepy. The only "memory" i have my other life is watching someone give birth, like I was the doctor or the nurse.

mucgwyrt
March 25th, 2004, 04:20 AM
I've only had a few past lives, but I remember them all very vividly.
One, I was a young girl who fell down a mine shaft in Northumberland; I had waking-visions of being being in her body underground in the dark, with insects crawling on her body, experiencing her emotions and everything! That one shook me.

Another, I was a traveller in Scotland (not far from Northumberland) and met a rag-tag group of Norse warriors (perhaps a viking raiding party) who befriended me and told me the way to their homeland.

In another I was in Cambodia (bit of leap of locations, eh?!) in some temple ruins. If anyone does any travelling and comes accross a ruined temple area with the top half of a huge Cambodian buddha head, and lots of arches, up in the moutains... :)

No burnings though!

Calzaer - I live more or less on the border of Wales, I shall see what abbeys are close by and visit a few in the summer. I'll let you know if I come accross any which fit your description... do you know roughly what date it was, or do you have a sketch of it at all? :)

Lucius
March 25th, 2004, 04:39 AM
Those are very interesting stories. Like someone else said, a little creepy as well. I'd be scared if it happened to me. Anyway, I've never had any burning 'memories' but once when I was taking a bath and meditating/relaxing in the bath, I went under the water completely and instantly received a vision and became very scared and jumped up out of the water. I was panting heavily. Well, the 'vision' was of a long time ago, seemed to be around Puritan times and I was a woman. I could see myself having troubles with my husband, and I don't know if i was being murdered or committing suicide or if it was simply an accident but I seemed to have fallen off of a rocky edge of some sort...not quite a cliff and hit my head on a rock and drowned. It was scary.

Aidron
March 25th, 2004, 04:44 AM
I do not recall them. I either did not live a life during these times, have repressed it so much, or it was simply not as significant an experience as most of my other past lives.

mucgwyrt
March 25th, 2004, 05:33 AM
I do not recall them. I either did not live a life during these times, have repressed it so much, or it was simply not as significant an experience as most of my other past lives.
Yeah, I think mine only flooded into my consiousness because the girl (my last life) died quite traumatically, and I needed to rememeber in order to come to terms with things that were going on in ~this~ life.

Edit: funnily enough though, I'm not scared of small spaces after being buried alive :lol:
I dont like the dark though, even at 20, I must admit...

Ahautenites
March 25th, 2004, 08:57 AM
I have an aversion to fire, but I have no memory of ever being burned at the stake. However, I do have a rather irrational fear of being in a car driving through moving water. I think I may have drowned in that kind of car accident in a past life.

mothwench
March 25th, 2004, 10:03 AM
hmm. not burning. i had a very disturbing dream that i've never forgotten, and i can't have been more than three years old, because it was before we moved to the states. i dreamt i was on a high wooden platform with my dad, only he was tied to the platform, facing the sky, and he was suffocating. there were people down below. i wasn't tied down but the platform was too high up to jump, and i didn't want to leave him. what really troubles me about this is the age i was when i had the dream, and the fact that i was never able to forget it.

Rainbow Chaser
March 25th, 2004, 10:23 AM
O yes. I always have had a fear of fire, got very hysterical as a toddler. By now I recall a few violent deaths of past lifes, being burnt at the stake being one of them. But I think I got either drugged or clubbed on the head or something because I don't recall being on fire. My memory stops at getting tied up. Maybe I supressed but but I don't think so.
The scenes that led up to it were much more painful. Being driven on a cart to the center and seeing familiar faces in the jeering crowd, people I had helped and healed. That really hurt.

One funny thing about that: all my life I had had a sort of "front-garden-phobia". :hehehehe: I got very nervous when people SAW me gardening! It never made sense to me but then I found out that I got "arrested" in that particular life while gardening and tending to my herbs.
Weird how the mind works.

mucgwyrt
March 25th, 2004, 10:29 AM
O yes. I always have had a fear of fire, got very hysterical as a toddler. By now I recall a few violent deaths of past lifes, being burnt at the stake being one of them. But I think I got either drugged or clubbed on the head or something because I don't recall being on fire. My memory stops at getting tied up. Maybe I supressed but but I don't think so.
The scenes that led up to it were much more painful. Being driven on a cart to the center and seeing familiar faces in the jeering crowd, people I had helped and healed. That really hurt.

One funny thing about that: all my life I had had a sort of "front-garden-phobia". :hehehehe: I got very nervous when people SAW me gardening! It never made sense to me but then I found out that I got "arrested" in that particular life while gardening and tending to my herbs.
Weird how the mind works.

That's really interesting, I always find it very intriguing when people's pst lives affect their current ones :)

Calzaer
March 25th, 2004, 11:19 AM
Macha: I don't have a sketch or a date, I'm afraid... details are sort of vague. All I know about the abbey is its direction from the lake and approximate distance - the riders got from there to my cottage on the lake within an hour or so. In hindsight, it was kind of stupid to set up shop that close to a bunch of people who'd love nothing better than to invite me as the guest of honor to a bar-b-que.

As for the box, it's a light reddish wood, about the size and shape of a large book (and I think that's what's inside). It had all sorts of strange symbols carved into it that I don't recognize and couldn't reproduce to save my life, and an internal locking mechanism (as in, the keyhole is directly on the box itself, as opposed to the box being locked with, like, a padlock or something). I seem to remember the key being somewhere on the box itself, in like a hidden little compartment, but again, details are pretty vague. I do distinctly remember telling the kid to dump the sucker in the lake by the reeds.

I obviously haven't felt compelled to rush to Wales and scour the land for it just yet, since I can't even be sure it still exists... it's had a long time to be discovered and sent to a museum or something, or else be rotted by the water and ruined by the mud... but I always appreciate folks who happen to be in the area keeping an eye out, just in case. I'll probably be up there myself one day, once finances allow it, but it's certainly not urgent enough for me to hop on a plane at my first opportunity and start dredging up random ponds. :)

mucgwyrt
March 25th, 2004, 11:36 AM
Macha: I don't have a sketch or a date, I'm afraid... details are sort of vague. All I know about the abbey is its direction from the lake and approximate distance - the riders got from there to my cottage on the lake within an hour or so. In hindsight, it was kind of stupid to set up shop that close to a bunch of people who'd love nothing better than to invite me as the guest of honor to a bar-b-que.

As for the box, it's a light reddish wood, about the size and shape of a large book (and I think that's what's inside). It had all sorts of strange symbols carved into it that I don't recognize and couldn't reproduce to save my life, and an internal locking mechanism (as in, the keyhole is directly on the box itself, as opposed to the box being locked with, like, a padlock or something). I seem to remember the key being somewhere on the box itself, in like a hidden little compartment, but again, details are pretty vague. I do distinctly remember telling the kid to dump the sucker in the lake by the reeds.

I obviously haven't felt compelled to rush to Wales and scour the land for it just yet, since I can't even be sure it still exists... it's had a long time to be discovered and sent to a museum or something, or else be rotted by the water and ruined by the mud... but I always appreciate folks who happen to be in the area keeping an eye out, just in case. I'll probably be up there myself one day, once finances allow it, but it's certainly not urgent enough for me to hop on a plane at my first opportunity and start dredging up random ponds. :)

Apparently, according to MWHerbal threads, Alder gets harder in water (hence it was used to make crannogs from), so you never know. If I find it do I get first dibbs on reading it?! :lol:

edit:
ok so I couldn't resist looking on the net (I love this kind of stuff). below are two abbeys, one on a lake and one on a laaaarge still river... not much else came up tho I'm afraid :)
Abbey 1 (http://www.rc.umd.edu/reviews/images/romcd/tintern.jpg)
Abbey 2 (http://uk.geocities.com/dragophelion/uni_site/images/whitby/W7/w7_030_abbey_lake_1_sat.jpg)

Hazel BlueMoon
March 25th, 2004, 08:18 PM
That is the creepiest shit I have ever read! I use to have "feeling's of a past life" and dreams about watching a burning of a witch. I was a "little girl" and I was watching my mother. (Not this life's mom, of course)

That is so wierd! It's also wierd, because I kinda forgot I use to have those feelings. I had them when I was around 13-15. Now that I'm 19 almost 20, I haven't really had those "feeling's" anymore.

I'm sorry, but I still can't get over this. I read your post...and I almost pasted out! Well, Blessed Be.

Lunacie
March 25th, 2004, 08:54 PM
I have two absolutely paralyzing fears, fire and suffocation, but no memory of a past life to tie them in to. I've only had a couple of visions, one was of Wyoming in pioneer days, a small wooden schoolhouse and the teacher hiding something in a compartment under the riser his desk sat on. We actually tracked that schoolhouse down and traveled to Wyoming, but we were about a year too late. The schoolhouse had burned down. **sigh**

Phi
March 25th, 2004, 09:47 PM
Wow that's 5 so far recalling burning...Would be interesting to see how many others.
Hey sombody else count to see if I counted right...Or those of you who know how to do a poll might want to do that if this thread keeps growing. (I'm computer illiterate) :lol:
Those other memories are equally interesting. The one about the little child with her dad suffocating creeps me out a lot...

Calzaer
March 26th, 2004, 02:52 AM
Apparently, according to MWHerbal threads, Alder gets harder in water (hence it was used to make crannogs from), so you never know. If I find it do I get first dibbs on reading it?!

Well hell, if you can get the thing open, feel free to read the book. :lol: I seem to recall that even KNOWING the trick to getting the key, it was still a bitch because the little door would get stuck on its track half the time.

But yeah, you're not a Catholic church official who's gonna throw it in the Banned Book Vault of the Vatican, so feel free to take a peek. :D

As for the pictures, the first one isn't it, and the link to the second one isn't working at the moment. I'll try that one again tomorrow.

DragonFriend
March 26th, 2004, 06:43 AM
Hmmmmmmm

Wonder if thats where my recurring dream of drowning (when Im stressed) comes from - maybe I got the ducking stool in a last life........

sweet nothings
March 26th, 2004, 09:28 AM
I had a dream about being locked inside a suitcase and being burned to death at the age of five...

Rainbow Chaser
March 26th, 2004, 03:48 PM
That's really interesting, I always find it very intriguing when people's pst lives affect their current ones :)

Yup and it's about the only relevance of a past life to a current one. :elf:

Phi
March 26th, 2004, 08:58 PM
Yup and it's about the only relevance of a past life to a current one. :elf:
That rings very true. Maybe the "recalls" are partly why i seem to get so riled regarding mysogyny (sp?) and why I could not remain in a patriarchal religion.
It seems it was harder to challenge religious beliefs back then because you really had to stand alone, and there was nothing like good ol' Nystikwidks community then.
:huddle:
I wonder if so many recalling these things points to a larger reason than the indiviual ones alone: It's a renewed cycle of womankind!
:clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :boquet: :cheers:

Rainbow Chaser
March 27th, 2004, 06:51 AM
I agree that it probably not a coincidence that so many akin spirits find one another through means of the internet, it must be that the time is ripe.
I also think that it's no coincidence that the base for this new spiritual rising lies in the USA. Here in Europe, I have often thought that the fear runs very deep, as if it is rooted in the very soil we live on. Which is not surprising looking at the fact that witch trials have been going on for generations. Think about the children having to witness their parent(s) being killed.
I know there have been witch hunts in the US as well but not as widespread.

As for myself, I have several other illogical fears that must come from somewhere. Men in dresses (like clergy) when _running)_ freak me out. :crazyman: And the first time I wrote down a few runes on a piece of paper and put that in my purse, it felt very dangerous: the risk of being caught with runes, as if it would get me killed... :hehehehe:

Phi
March 27th, 2004, 07:42 AM
I had a dream about being locked inside a suitcase and being burned to death at the age of five...
This strikes me as particularly terrifying. I hope the remnants of that dream clear out and you get peace from the telling of it. :hugz:

sweet nothings
March 27th, 2004, 10:24 AM
This strikes me as particularly terrifying. I hope the remnants of that dream clear out and you get peace from the telling of it. :hugz:
Thanks, I can't believe I acctually remembered that dream. I guess it's been with me all these years. I've never even told anyone about it...feels good to get it out.

Phi
March 27th, 2004, 09:58 PM
[QUOTE=macha]
In another I was in Cambodia (bit of leap of locations, eh?!) in some temple ruins. If anyone does any travelling and comes accross a ruined temple area with the top half of a huge Cambodian buddha head, and lots of arches, up in the moutains... :)


This quote makes me think of Angkor Wat photos I've seen. Look for these on internet sites. Maybe you'll recognize the location of your "recall" in one of them

rain_fallen_tears
March 28th, 2004, 04:24 AM
No burning, but I was executed. I was about seven when it came to me through a vision/dream(this was long before I discovered Wicca for myself) anyway I was tied to a stake and I looked around in front of me, I was being taunted, stared at, and having rotted foods thrown at me, I looked to the far left of the platform, and there sttod a woman weeping she didn't resemble my mom, but I knew her as my mother...I closed my eyes and breathed in fresh air and felt the wind on my face...as I was about to open my eyes I felt arrow after arrow being shot into my chest, and a malicious laugh...then I broke out of my vision/dream...it was very disturbing...but I've never read even to this day of any time period where arrows were used as a means of execution...

Rainbow Chaser
March 28th, 2004, 05:28 AM
Hmmm that is very vivid and nasty. Maybe you weren't supposed to be executed by means of a arrow, but it was a hateful spectator who felt like pointing his bow at you before the actual execution took place.

mothwench
March 28th, 2004, 07:18 AM
Hmmm that is very vivid and nasty. Maybe you weren't supposed to be executed by means of a arrow, but it was a hateful spectator who felt like pointing his bow at you before the actual execution took place.
or an act of mercy. more likely, if you think about the methods of those days.

Morr
March 28th, 2004, 10:38 AM
I'm just now working on learning about my past lifetimes..
I think the one biggest influence I have from a past lifetime is my infatuation with Historic Christianity, yet my "anti" feelings towards today's church itself, and its dogma.
I grew up in a Jewish environment, I didnt know any Christians till I was 14, and before that Christianity felt like a very distant issue within my environment - but I was always drawn to crosses & Jesus. I never knew why. I always asked questions about it - but seeing as a lot of Jews are a bit "eh" about talking and being open to Christianity (because of the holocaust, etc), I never really learned about it, till after I was 14 and met Christian people.

When I was younger, I'd have dreams of crucifictions, sometimes being crucified myself. I once had a dream that I was travelling on this small boat in a very calm & peaceful river - and then towards me came another boat and Jesus was in it - and he spoke to me.
I dont remember anything of what was said because I was like 12 at the time.
These dreams were all before I even understood who Jesus was and/or Christianity. I just knew it was some sort of religion.

Thanks to a dear MW Soul Sister of mine - we've managed to crack the issue and realize a bit why I'm so drawn to *HISTORIC* Christianity.

As to the Burning Times - I have no recollection of that.
As to unexplained phobias that may be a cause of traumatic death - I have a MAD fear of heights and a HUGE fear of flying. I only fly in a plane if I absolutely have to. And even then - I need to mentally prepare myself days before. I also take this sleeping pill to calm me down & help me sleep - otherwise I freak out. I need to go to my "happy place" during take off (cause thats the worse part for me).. People who have flowen with me in airplanes have told me that upon entring an airplane and all through the take off I become very pale.

Dextra
March 29th, 2004, 03:34 AM
I don't have any burning times memories. I do recall being an executioner of sorts, in an Amazonian tribe, and being (frighteningly) good at what I did. That particular life I'm still learning about, so it's fresh in my mind.

Fire has never bothered me though. I've always had an affinity toward that element, even though I'm an earth sign....

When I was about 3 years old I walked through a small bonfire my grandfather was burning some brush in. Freaked him out something terrible, but i didn't even have a singed hair. I never could figure that out.

mucgwyrt
March 29th, 2004, 06:00 AM
[QUOTE=macha]
In another I was in Cambodia (bit of leap of locations, eh?!) in some temple ruins. If anyone does any travelling and comes accross a ruined temple area with the top half of a huge Cambodian buddha head, and lots of arches, up in the moutains... :)


This quote makes me think of Angkor Wat photos I've seen. Look for these on internet sites. Maybe you'll recognize the location of your "recall" in one of them

I'll go have a look :)

Phi
March 29th, 2004, 10:16 AM
I don't have any burning times memories. I do recall being an executioner of sorts, in an Amazonian tribe, and being (frighteningly) good at what I did. That particular life I'm still learning about, so it's fresh in my mind.

Fire has never bothered me though. I've always had an affinity toward that element, even though I'm an earth sign....

When I was about 3 years old I walked through a small bonfire my grandfather was burning some brush in. Freaked him out something terrible, but i didn't even have a singed hair. I never could figure that out.

If you haven't already you might want to read my "Poetry as Oracle" poem that touches on the Amazon. I think you may find it interesting. I also think that the Amazonian legend might eventually lead to real archeological evidence of the matriarchial goddess-worshiping times. (Read at "sacred texts .com" through your search engine for information about Amazon legends.)
Sorry I can't post the link, I am computerly-challenged. :lol:

Phi
March 29th, 2004, 10:23 AM
I'm just now working on learning about my past lifetimes..
I think the one biggest influence I have from a past lifetime is my infatuation with Historic Christianity, yet my "anti" feelings towards today's church itself, and its dogma.
I grew up in a Jewish environment, I didnt know any Christians till I was 14, and before that Christianity felt like a very distant issue within my environment - but I was always drawn to crosses & Jesus. I never knew why. I always asked questions about it - but seeing as a lot of Jews are a bit "eh" about talking and being open to Christianity (because of the holocaust, etc), I never really learned about it, till after I was 14 and met Christian people.

When I was younger, I'd have dreams of crucifictions, sometimes being crucified myself. I once had a dream that I was travelling on this small boat in a very calm & peaceful river - and then towards me came another boat and Jesus was in it - and he spoke to me.
I dont remember anything of what was said because I was like 12 at the time.
These dreams were all before I even understood who Jesus was and/or Christianity. I just knew it was some sort of religion.

Thanks to a dear MW Soul Sister of mine - we've managed to crack the issue and realize a bit why I'm so drawn to *HISTORIC* Christianity.

As to the Burning Times - I have no recollection of that.
As to unexplained phobias that may be a cause of traumatic death - I have a MAD fear of heights and a HUGE fear of flying. I only fly in a plane if I absolutely have to. And even then - I need to mentally prepare myself days before. I also take this sleeping pill to calm me down & help me sleep - otherwise I freak out. I need to go to my "happy place" during take off (cause thats the worse part for me).. People who have flowen with me in airplanes have told me that upon entring an airplane and all through the take off I become very pale.
You, like most of us, often think of "crucifixion" only in association with the Christ. But many many people were executed this way by Romans, and not only for Christian beliefs. You might want to check this out in relation to your crucifixion dreams. Maybe it will help.

Dextra
March 29th, 2004, 10:44 AM
If you haven't already you might want to read my "Poetry as Oracle" poem that touches on the Amazon. I think you may find it interesting. I also think that the Amazonian legend might eventually lead to real archeological evidence of the matriarchial goddess-worshiping times. (Read at "sacred texts .com" through your search engine for information about Amazon legends.)
Sorry I can't post the link, I am computerly-challenged. :lol:
I'll have to read that, thanks! :)

Phi
March 29th, 2004, 11:04 AM
Whoops I meant to say to you, Morr,
"You like most of us, might tend to...did not mean to presume that you only think this way or that you didn't already know this... :)

Morr
March 29th, 2004, 11:49 AM
i know, i know - i sorta covered all my bases.
the dreams stopped around the time I learned what christianity was and what it was based upon, and about Jesus, etc..
But thanks for the tip :)

Shadowolff
March 31st, 2004, 03:15 PM
I don't remember any dreams of burning, but I remember as a child having nightmares of earthquakes. I live in upstate NY so there weren't any that I experienced.

jelly.belly
April 1st, 2004, 01:18 AM
Am I the only one here who doesnt remember-- at all-- her past lives? :D I've never had a dream or a vision about one of them... Though I did have a lot of "déjà vu"s in England, it was freaky how mush I felt I knew some places that I visited... My aunt is also convinced I was a gypsy in another life... I dunno why, but I get that a lot... But except that I've never had anything, or mybe I did but I just dont remember it...

Anyway, this is really interesting... some of those are very scary tho... *shivers*

Phae Talon
April 13th, 2004, 03:41 PM
I remember a few things from my past lives ... one came to me in a dream where I was a Columbian woman who had to raise my nephew because my sister was involved with a REALLY bad man

Another is just something that has carried over into this life ... I think I was hanged once. I can't wear chokers or small necklaces or button up shirts to the top ... even if there is plenty of room, I always feel like I am being strangled. I am curious to explore this more, but I am also a little scared to relive what I think would have been a pretty nasty death.

--Phae

Lunacie
April 13th, 2004, 04:24 PM
I remember a few things from my past lives ... one came to me in a dream where I was a Columbian woman who had to raise my nephew because my sister was involved with a REALLY bad man

Another is just something that has carried over into this life ... I think I was hanged once. I can't wear chokers or small necklaces or button up shirts to the top ... even if there is plenty of room, I always feel like I am being strangled. I am curious to explore this more, but I am also a little scared to relive what I think would have been a pretty nasty death.

--Phae
I'm the same way about having something snug around my neck, and wondered about having been hanged in a past life. But my daughter also feels like things that are snug around her throad are choking her so then I wondered if it's genetic somehow?

mucgwyrt
April 15th, 2004, 05:06 AM
I'm the same way about having something snug around my neck, and wondered about having been hanged in a past life. But my daughter also feels like things that are snug around her throad are choking her so then I wondered if it's genetic somehow?

Or maybe you were both hung, and were drawn together this life because you shared similar experiences in a past one :)

Raihn
April 15th, 2004, 01:17 PM
Or maybe you were both hung, and were drawn together this life because you shared similar experiences in a past one :)

I have nothing really to share other than that I had once heard an interesting theory... that those who have died truly loving another can be reincarnated later with that person. And sometimes the reincarnated relationship can be completely different than that of their earlier lives.

This just reminded me of it. :)

Lunacie
April 15th, 2004, 04:43 PM
So, maybe my daughter and I were brothers who were hanged as horse thieves in the past? From brothers to mother & daughter... interesting.