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Naillosotarrain
February 26th, 2001, 09:32 PM
Here's a topic starter for you:

Sutekh, Seth, Set; quite possibly one of mythologies most if no the most misinterpreted deities of all time. Some cosmogonies have him as a god of corruption and evil who attacks Re's sun barge nightly as the serpent known as Apep, only to be defeated in the on going battle of good vs evil and good always wins. Other cosmogonies have him as a god of war who rides on Re's sun barge and is the one who slays Apep on a nightly basis with a spear thrust to the head. And just about all you'll ever find on him is about the infamous battle between him, his brother Osiris, and his nephew Horus. Even though he was banned from Egypt by a judgement of the gods, that judgement came only after Nephthys took the guise of a mortal female in distress (the most infamous kind of bait for a warrior), and asked what he would do to someone if they were to essentially do the same ill actions as he had (phrasing it a little differently of course), and he replied that he would have them banished from the land; and in that statement, which overheard by the company of the gods, Set banned himself from the land with his own words; to either the underworld, or to ride as Re's champion depending on the cosmogony you're reading.

Not entirely evil, wouldn't you say? There is some good inside him.

Another interesting fact about him is this:

Just as the Greeks adopted Serapis as their Zeus; the so-called "Church" adopted Set as the modern day Prince of Darkness.

And the modern day Satanic worshippers tend to call their churches Temples of Set, so as to escape religious prosecution; but at the same time giving us Pagans a bad name.

Yvonne Belisle
February 26th, 2001, 11:21 PM
Now I won't be the only one he is bouncing info off of!!!!:D:D:D:D:D:D

mol
February 27th, 2001, 11:46 AM
Now we just have to get more people in here...this forum that is...

Shatav
February 28th, 2001, 07:54 PM
I'm Soooo glad you posted this. It really irks me when someone comes up to me and starts talking about how Set is the God of Evil and what-not. I've even seen books in print on Egyptian deities that proclaim this and it has always just put my stomach in knots.

Isn't it true that the idea of him being a "bad" deity came after a change in pharoah as well? The new pharoah didn't want to have any representation of the old in his reign? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm speaking on a purely historical basis here.

Naillosotarrain
March 1st, 2001, 02:42 AM
I hae forgotten exactly when Set became considered an evil god, I'd have to research it again; but it does have something to do with the fact that because he was the god of the desert, he was considered to be a god of foriegn lands; and the fact that the Middle East wasn't a very peaceful area back then. I do know that at the begining of the 19th Dynasty (I think that's the right one), under the rule of Seti I, Set was brought back into popularity. Probably due to the reason that Seti I had red hair and the color red, on anything, was attributed to Set and either looked down upon (if it was human), or destroyed (if anything else). However at the end of the dynasty, Set was once again thrown back into the shoes of being evil.

Although, as I stated before, depending on what cosmogony you are looking at, Set is either attributed as being good, or as being evil. Each one is slightly different. The latter cosmogonies are the ones that attribute him to being evil; and it is the latter ones that are more commonly refered to. Unfortunately, not very many people are aware of the earlier ones.

timberwolf
March 6th, 2001, 03:45 AM
Originally posted by Naillosotarrain

And the modern day Satanic worshippers tend to call their churches Temples of Set, so as to escape religious prosecution; but at the same time giving us Pagans a bad name.

Why do they do this? Do they worship Satan? Or do they worship Set?

Yvonne Belisle
March 8th, 2001, 03:14 AM
They worship Satan but they call it The Temple of Set because the Roman Catholic Church says that Set and Satan are the same.

mol
March 8th, 2001, 10:40 PM
Originally posted by Yvonne Thomas
They worship Satan but they call it The Temple of Set because the Roman Catholic Church says that Set and Satan are the same.

Why should they care what the Roman Catholic Church says?

Yvonne Belisle
March 10th, 2001, 12:37 AM
But Mol I never said they were smart.:D I guess to them it lends a more legit light upon their ideas of all for one and all for me.

mol
March 11th, 2001, 04:26 PM
Originally posted by Yvonne Thomas
But Mol I never said they were smart.:D I guess to them it lends a more legit light upon their ideas of all for one and all for me.

:D

Sure is quiet in here lately...

Naillosotarrain
July 12th, 2002, 11:19 AM
bumpity bump bump

Calixto
July 13th, 2002, 04:02 PM
For a while in either the 2nd or 3rd Dynasty some pharoahs used Set as their divine signifier not Horus.

Several Pharoahs of the New Kingdom were named Seti after Set.

Naillosotarrain
July 14th, 2002, 10:28 AM
Ah yes ... the reign of Seti I :D

Like I said ... one of mythologies most if not the most misinterpreted deities. Some people saw this, most did not. Back then anyone with redish colored hair was scorned for being connected with Set, so when a pharoah had a child with redish hair, they would name him after Set in an attempt to bring back the good faith in him. It started with Seti I, one of the most prestiged pharoahs of Ancient Egypt. And as you can se by the number of Seti's(and so forth) after him, it worked for a little while, but not too long.

Ahautenites
April 8th, 2003, 12:31 PM
I just found a fantastic site about Set (Seth, Sutekh, or Setekh). http://www.per-set.org

Make sure to check out the links for the gallery (awesome digital art in there) and House of Netjer Revisited (for really funny Egyptian comics).

jcldragon
May 14th, 2003, 02:54 PM
Some people are just Set in their ways....



*all my puns are intended, & I will not apologize for them... hehehe :)

Naillosotarrain
May 15th, 2003, 10:49 PM
Okay ... You guys did some major digging here ... I thought this thread was long dead.

Ahautenites
June 12th, 2003, 04:22 PM
Old threads don't die.... they just fade a w a y . . . :ghost: