Atheists?

[Velvet]

Pagans seem to excepting of many religions so I was just curious as to what peoples thoughts were on atheists? When they die do they go to where ever you think you will go as well?

[Shanti]

I dont beleve in any gods/godessess for myself. Perhaps they exist but I never met one.
I personally dont see what they have to do with anything.
We are in the physical world and their aint none walking around with us here so why would their be any in the spiritual existance?
Spirit/energy to me is just another form of existance and like this form (physical) why would anyone or anything need to have gods.
Their just not practicle for me.
When I become free spirit energy I will beable to do whatever..if I want to manifest as something again, I can, if not...I'll just be a free spirit. To me in free spirit energy form, all things are egual as they are all pure energy that forms itself to a group to make a spirit form. Heck, mayby I will deside to disperse that energy and just be all over the place! :)

Thats how I look at it.

[Velvet]

That's so interesting. I believe more in a universal force, then actual goddesses and gods.

[Shanti]

That's so interesting. I believe more in a universal force, then actual goddesses and gods.
To go a step further I also belirve in multi-universes and multi spiritual planes and the numbers of dimensions I believe is more than a human could ever comprehend. :)

[Velvet]

To go a step further I also belirve in multi-universes and multi spiritual planes and the numbers of dimensions I believe is more than a human could ever comprehend. :)
I agree with the multi-universes, and dimensions. I wish I knew more about the multi spiritual planes, I still have so many doubts left over from when I was an atheist.

[rain_fallen_tears]

I feel for those who don't think there is something bigger than themself out there, but I certainly respect that they don't...on the other hand I have little respect for people who believe in nothing(and I mean NOTHING)...what a pitiful exsistance they must lead...over all athiests are good people, they just see things from a different perspective, I suppose. :)

[Hellenic_Witch]

Just curious, because I've never been clear on this subject, is atheism a religion or a belief?

[Velvet]

Belief

[Shanti]

Well it means you dont believe in a higher power...god/s or godess/es.
I think it would just be a belief since some athiest dont believe in anything, some believe in spirit as I do, some believe in just a cosmic energy force...its all differant the only thing thats ahared is the lack of belief in deities.

[Erebus]

The same thing happens to us that happens to everyone else. We die.

[Velvet]

The same thing happens to us that happens to everyone else. We die.
Some pagans believe in reincarnation or a summerland, and I was wondering if they thought it would happen to atheists too.

[Erebus]

Some pagans believe in reincarnation or a summerland, and I was wondering if they thought it would happen to atheists too.

Of course. I just thought I'd reiterate the only thing anyone really CAN know about it... that being, atheists die. Beyond that... well, some have claimed to come back and give us knowledge beyond the second veil, but I know as well as anyone that spirits can lie...

[Velvet]

Of course. I just thought I'd reiterate the only thing anyone really CAN know about it... that being, atheists die. Beyond that... well, some have claimed to come back and give us knowledge beyond the second veil, but I know as well as anyone that spirits can lie...
If there were really spirits in the first place.

[Strawberry Bounce]

I'm not an athiest but I respect their view. I use to think athiest were evil(when i was christian).

[lythadancer]

A friend of mine believe that we become energyand just fly where ever. He also thinks that when a living person is hit by someones energy it causes them to fart or sweat.
he may be right! I don't know. I believe we come back.

[Pol]

I think when an athiest dies, the athiest dies to their belief's end: Death. If they do not believe they will go anywhere or become anything else, they won't.

[Velvet]

I think when an athiest dies, the athiest dies to their belief's end: Death. If they do not believe they will go anywhere or become anything else, they won't.
So if a person believes that when they die they will get 70 virgins, then they will?

[Erebus]

So if a person believes that when they die they will get 70 virgins, then they will?

Woo, good call.

[Nephthys]

I do not believe in any form of higher power. I don't believe in God(s) or Godess(es), so that makes me an Atheist. I do however believe there is something else then our physical world. Other dimensions are things I think are out there, but I don't believe in a 'higher spiritual being'.

What happens when I die... I don't know. Maybe reincarnation or something of the sort, but I do believe that if there is something after death, we all get the same chance. (No heaven & Hell)

[Toby Stimpson]

I have a very spiritual view on athiests...personally I respect them and say good on them. For me, my belief is that the whole reincarnation this is so that we can learn things from each lifetime and lifestyle. Athiesm is a lifestyle as is religion...and so you can learn thoings about the world with a religious and spiritual mindset that you cant learn as an athiest...BUT, you can learn things about the world through an Athiest mindset that you cant with a spiritual mindset. So I believe, Gods and Goddesses aside, that we are all incarnated on this world or other worlds as an athiest atleast one lifetime so that we can learn from both perspectives. Thats why I think it's a good thing to be an athiest...as it is a good thing to be spiritual.

[{Tigress}]

So if a person believes that when they die they will get 70 virgins, then they will?

Sure. If they truly believe it. Not just "wish it", mind you, but absolutely truly believe that's what will happen.

I think what happens after death is exactly what we expect to happen. If you grew up believing in the Summerland or Heaven, you'll wind up there. If you grew up believing you were going to Hell, you will. If you believe you don't go anywhere, you won't.

[SSanf]

I have a very spiritual view on athiests...personally I respect them and say good on them. For me, my belief is that the whole reincarnation this is so that we can learn things from each lifetime and lifestyle. Athiesm is a lifestyle as is religion...and so you can learn thoings about the world with a religious and spiritual mindset that you cant learn as an athiest...BUT, you can learn things about the world through an Athiest mindset that you cant with a spiritual mindset. So I believe, Gods and Goddesses aside, that we are all incarnated on this world or other worlds as an athiest atleast one lifetime so that we can learn from both perspectives. Thats why I think it's a good thing to be an athiest...as it is a good thing to be spiritual.WOW! My beliefs, exactly!

[DoktorSick]

I'm an atheist and I don't really know what happens after death.
I know you can be buried or cremented.As for the concept of a soul
and all of that stuff.There is no real concete evidence support one religion
or the other.The 70 virgins would be fun i must admit.

[cheddarsox]

I'm an atheist and I don't really know what happens after death.
I know you can be buried or cremented.As for the concept of a soul
and all of that stuff.There is no real concete evidence support one religion
or the other.The 70 virgins would be fun i must admit.

I would think that 70 virgins, once one is without a body...would just be frustrating. lol.

I think that the same thing happens to atheists when they die as everyone else. We stop existing.

However...once someone on another relig forum posited something interesting...that NDE's are simply the last thoughts of the brain, and that essentially, our last thought might get drawn out reallllyyyy looonnngg, in an essence eternity, (you know how when something big is happening, it sometimes feel like time slows way down, like during a car accident), so maybe...if you imagine those 70 virgins, or summerland, or whatever floats your boat, you essentially create your own "eternal reward" or "eternal damnation" if guilt is the last thing in your mind.

All the more reason, I think, to try for a concious death, as opposed to all drugged up etc. I don't want to miss the last thing that happens to me!

cheddar

[Golias]

Sure. If they truly believe it. Not just "wish it", mind you, but absolutely truly believe that's what will happen.

I think what happens after death is exactly what we expect to happen. If you grew up believing in the Summerland or Heaven, you'll wind up there. If you grew up believing you were going to Hell, you will. If you believe you don't go anywhere, you won't.

And your evidence for these ideas is. . . . ?

[RoseKitten]

And your evidence for these ideas is. . . . ?

Who has any evidence for any of this discussion? It's about *belief* and *faith* in what will happen... it's not something that any of us have proof of one way or the other.

[Golias]

Who has any evidence for any of this discussion? It's about *belief* and *faith* in what will happen... it's not something that any of us have proof of one way or the other.

There are varying degrees of evidence. Many people feel that their faith and belief are as trustworthy to them as 'evidence' would be to someone else.


*Sure. If they truly believe it. Not just "wish it", mind you, but absolutely truly believe that's what will happen. * (requoted for emphasis.)

She is stating this as though it were fact and not belief or faith. I 'm guessing that if she were to read this post and clarify what she meant, she would say she 'thinks' that is what would happen and not claim to 'know' this. And that is perfectly OK with me--I mean no disrespect toward anyone's beliefs.

I just want to be able to distinguish belief/faith claims from 'fact' claims.

Golias

[Whitewolf]

I respect Atheists. A lot. I believe everyone has their own path. For me to tell someone what to believe or who to believe in is very disrespectful, in my opinion.

[Novembers River]

*Sure. If they truly believe it. Not just "wish it", mind you, but absolutely truly believe that's what will happen. * (requoted for emphasis.)

She is stating this as though it were fact and not belief or faith. I 'm guessing that if she were to read this post and clarify what she meant, she would say she 'thinks' that is what would happen and not claim to 'know' this. And that is perfectly OK with me--I mean no disrespect toward anyone's beliefs.

I just want to be able to distinguish belief/faith claims from 'fact' claims.

Golias

If you continue reading her post you'll see that she does say she "thinks" this is how it is...


Sure. If they truly believe it. Not just "wish it", mind you, but absolutely truly believe that's what will happen.

I think what happens after death is exactly what we expect to happen. If you grew up believing in the Summerland or Heaven, you'll wind up there. If you grew up believing you were going to Hell, you will. If you believe you don't go anywhere, you won't.

Surely you can read the whole post and come to the conclusion that these are her beliefs? She's not claiming she read this as fact anywhere or anything.

OP: My view is that when an atheist dies their afterlife is like everyone else's. Something certainly happens when we die. That could be nothing at all or as elaborate as heaven. Who really knows? Whatever it is, I believe it's the same for everyone. My own belief is that we return to the whole that is life, the Universe, energy, God.

[Golias]

Surely you can read the whole post and come to the conclusion that these are her beliefs? She's not claiming she read this as fact anywhere or anything..

After reading her post, that is the conclusion I came to. After all, we all must accept that beliefs are the only interface we have with external rality.

Golias