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-Sky-
September 25th, 2004, 08:19 AM
Merry Meet,

I noticed around here that many members just love Gaelic and they would be really interested to learn this language or at least one of its forms.Since we have other classes I thought it could be a great idea to include Gaelic classes and introduce the members to the beauty of Gaelic.
I,myself,adore Gaelic and it would be a great chance to learn here.If there's anyone who knows Gaelic and has the time to teach and if the owners agree maybe we should do it!

~Anna

Aelfoak
September 25th, 2004, 09:07 AM
Seeing that my grandparents family lines have been traced to Scotland and Ireland, i would love to learn my ancestors language. I went to the Western Isles last year to see a friend who lives in Grimshader in the Isle of Lewis, she was brought up speaking Gaelic but also pointed out to me that not many people speak the language now and is becoming very rare, if we can find someone who is very competent in Gaelic on MW and can teach us, then i would be all for it.

Dove
September 25th, 2004, 09:28 AM
I,myself,adore Gaelic and it would be a great chance to learn here.If there's anyone who knows Gaelic and has the time to teach and if the owners agree maybe we should do it! ~Anna*holding up hand*
I for one would love to take classes in Gael (is that said correctly??)

It is a wonderful language, which I actually started learning several years ago,
But like so many good things in life, it got set aside for lack of time, and loss of the teacher.

If a class is started ... count me in!!
I'll be there!!

*Rain*
September 25th, 2004, 09:33 AM
Try here, they have both Gaelic and Irish including sound files for both.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/languages/other/

Aelfoak
September 25th, 2004, 09:38 AM
Try here, they have both Gaelic and Irish including sound files for both.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/languages/other/
A-ha, thanks Rain for that, i've added the page to my favourites, i'll have to have a go at that.

teishabee
September 25th, 2004, 11:17 AM
Im reading celtic folkloreand it would be wonderful to be able to prounouce the names of people and places.

Kaylara
September 25th, 2004, 11:18 AM
Moving this to the CoT forum... If you're interesting is creating a class, please contact Morr, who is the organizer.

Tangerines
September 25th, 2004, 12:10 PM
Gaelic, once again, is not a language, but a group of them, under which irish, Scottish, and Manx fall.

And you could always drag up Fane Ayuma (sp?), as he's a better Irish speaker than me--living int he states for a good deal of my life has resulted in being limited to the basics, though I have a ton of references on Irish.

Morr
September 25th, 2004, 12:15 PM
i dont know if theres anyone certified enough here to teach a language... especially not a more acient & complex language..

SilverClaw
September 25th, 2004, 12:19 PM
Well if there is such a class it would be neat I have a lot of web sites that are deisgned for learning gaelic. It would be cool if down the road there was someone who could teach such a class.

Raivynne
September 25th, 2004, 01:47 PM
I would really be interested in learning. I hope we can find someone who can teach us. :smile:

The High Queen of Faerie
September 25th, 2004, 02:21 PM
i would be very interested. :)

Garden of Eden
September 25th, 2004, 02:29 PM
I'm already nearly fluent in gaelic Irish (I assume thats the 'gaelic' you're referring to), but sure, why not? Ba mhaith liom tuilleadh gaeilge...

Thistle
September 25th, 2004, 02:31 PM
I'd be very interested in taking this class, especially if there were sound files so we could hear the pronunciations.

Alaiyo
September 25th, 2004, 02:33 PM
As would I

Garden of Eden
September 25th, 2004, 02:59 PM
The pronounciation is essential to the language... and it's also quite difficult for those who live outside Ireland (and possibly Scotland). The way the Irish speak in English is quite lilted to sound like the way they speak their native tongue as well... it seems to help.

Tangerines
September 25th, 2004, 03:20 PM
The pronounciation is essential to the language... and it's also quite difficult for those who live outside Ireland (and possibly Scotland). The way the Irish speak in English is quite lilted to sound like the way they speak their native tongue as well... it seems to help.

There's also all those crazy dialect differences. Most Irish language resources out there seem geared towards the Connemara and Ulster dialects, which in themselves have some big differences in grammar.

-Sky-
September 25th, 2004, 03:26 PM
I think that most of us would be interested in the Irish or Scottish Gaelic.
Oh my fingers are crossed for finding a teacher!!!I mean there so many people in the "Druids" forum that speak Gaelic and can translate them,please help us!!!I'm desperate here...
Let's hope that we will find someone!

~Anna

banondraig
September 25th, 2004, 04:22 PM
i'd sign up for Irish Gaelic, but not Scottish. of course Scottish Gaelic would be cool, too, just not the particular language i would want to learn. i'm already working on German, i don't need a thrid one in the works!

soilsigh aingeal
September 25th, 2004, 05:31 PM
I would be interested.

jinx1_2
September 26th, 2004, 04:29 PM
Me too! :thumbsup:

Tullip Troll
September 27th, 2004, 11:10 AM
well when do we start

celticfire
September 29th, 2004, 10:14 PM
i would love to learn gaelic...even conversationally.:)

kaosxmage
September 30th, 2004, 12:20 PM
That's a wonderful idea ....is it plausible I wonder?

GryphonGirl
October 1st, 2004, 06:22 PM
I am game....hope a teacher turns up.......

faerieridingdragons
October 1st, 2004, 06:31 PM
Jumps up and down in chair,screaming "ME,ME,ME".I would love to learn Gaelic.

Writer_Waif
October 1st, 2004, 06:52 PM
Merry Meet,

I noticed around here that many members just love Gaelic and they would be really interested to learn this language or at least one of its forms.Since we have other classes I thought it could be a great idea to include Gaelic classes and introduce the members to the beauty of Gaelic.
I,myself,adore Gaelic and it would be a great chance to learn here.If there's anyone who knows Gaelic and has the time to teach and if the owners agree maybe we should do it!

~Anna

I would love to learn it. :ghostie:

Ron
October 1st, 2004, 09:45 PM
I know a few words :) I can say Tá Rhys ládair! (Rhys is strong.)
I can also say Tásí sexí! (she's sexy!) lol with a made up word "sexí" what else oo I can say Éire and Éireanann (sp?) but yup lol

I voted Yes! because Gaelige is the 2nd best language in the world, of course in successory to Welsh :p Ghaildig (sp?) is the 3rd :) English is at the bottom of the list... lol

DragonMystic
October 12th, 2004, 10:51 AM
is it still spoken today by the everyday people not just in maickal times?

Alaiyo
October 12th, 2004, 11:01 AM
I agree. When do we start? Even if we learned a few words, that is more than we will have had. I joked with a coworker yesterday that many American children learned Spanish from watching Sesame Street. Most can still count.

Mòrag Elasaid Ní Dhòmhnaill
October 12th, 2004, 11:43 AM
Yes, Irish, Scots, and Manx Gaelic are all still spoken DragonMystic.

I would suggest someone mentioning to Tangerines about possibly teaching an Irish (which is what I'm assuming people are looking for as oppossed to Scots Gaelic or Manx) course.

michellek
October 12th, 2004, 02:30 PM
wow, i just spent an hour on the site Rain posted........its a tougher language than i thought.............I'm hoping i posted this the right way, its my first try, so if i didn't sorry.

Bix
November 1st, 2004, 04:33 PM
I'm more interested in Scottish Gaelic, Gaedhlig I think it's called. Trying to learn it now...it's been difficult.

Enigma
November 8th, 2004, 08:05 PM
That would be awsome!!! I would like to learn.

celticfire
December 7th, 2004, 06:59 PM
any more info on the possibility of this class?

-Sky-
December 19th, 2004, 03:38 AM
any more info on the possibility of this class?

I was thinking about this too...75 persons added that they would love to see a class here but we don't have a teacher :(

Taurwen
December 19th, 2004, 07:37 PM
I was thinking about this too...75 persons added that they would love to see a class here but we don't have a teacher :(

I'll co-teach with someone, if someone doesn't want to take it on alone...

My knowledge of Scottish Gaelic is so-so, but I'm a foreign language language teacher over here in NY ;)

rayne100
December 23rd, 2004, 12:31 PM
I would love to learn Irish Gaelic if someone would teach me.

Rhianna813
December 23rd, 2004, 01:14 PM
I am also interested in learning Irish. I realize that it is a very difficult language and that pronunciation is key. But it seems as if most of us would be happy just learning the basics.

Perhaps 2-3 teachers could collaborate and share what they know. It could be more of a study group than a class.

Rhianna

DragonLily
December 24th, 2004, 06:59 PM
I would like to see this class. I love to learn new things!

Taurwen
December 24th, 2004, 08:25 PM
EDIT) i have to withdraw my offer to be a coteach. i only know some scottish from a friend. i don't speak irish at all - sorry everyone

The_Justin_angel
December 24th, 2004, 11:39 PM
I'm semi-fluent is Gaelic Scottish and read Gaelic-Irish.
Though I’m not up to the standards of teaching anyone of a language I’ve only been speaking for two years.

About the Gaelic languages groups: thereare two groups of Gaelic that are "living languages" (as opposed to dialects lost over time). The first group (or as I like to call it "Talkable languages") is the Gaelic-Irish, Gaelic-Scottish and Gaelic-Manx. The second group (or as I like to call it "non-Talkable languages") is Gaelic-Cornish, Gaelic-Bretony and Gaelic-Welsh. Each language has in common with other languages in its group some sort of linguistic similarity. Which can even be seen in the pagan holiday names!

Any way, if anyone wants - I have software suited for starting to learn Gaelic-Irish. Just contact me and I’ll do my best to send it over.


May god hold you in the palm of his hand,

skilly-nilly
December 24th, 2004, 11:51 PM
About the Gaelic languages groups: thereare two groups of Gaelic that are "living languages" (as opposed to dialects lost over time). The first group (or as I like to call it "Talkable languages") is the Gaelic-Irish, Gaelic-Scottish and Gaelic-Manx. The second group (or as I like to call it "non-Talkable languages") is Gaelic-Cornish, Gaelic-Bretony and Gaelic-Welsh.


I do not speak them, but I'm pretty sure that there are quite a few people who speak Welsh bi-lingually, and I think that very few (if any) speak Manx.

Nantonos? :wave: Learned opinion?

Nantonos
December 25th, 2004, 08:58 AM
About the Gaelic languages groups: thereare two groups of Gaelic that are "living languages" (as opposed to dialects lost over time). The first group (or as I like to call it "Talkable languages") is the Gaelic-Irish, Gaelic-Scottish and Gaelic-Manx. The second group (or as I like to call it "non-Talkable languages") is Gaelic-Cornish, Gaelic-Bretony and Gaelic-Welsh.

Just to clarify - when you say 'talkable languages' you mean ones that you, as a Scottish Gaelic speaker, understand and by non-talkable you mean ones that you can't speak because they are from a different Celtic grouping?

I ask because some might misunderstand you to mean by 'non-Talkable' that no-one can speak them, which is not the case. There are substantial numbers of native Welsh speakers (though most are bilingual English/Welsh) and of native Breton speakers, and a few people reviving the extinct Manx and Cornish languages based on written and, in the case of Manx, recorded materials.

Also, Welsh, Cornish and Breton are not Gaelic languages. Celtic, yes; Gaelic, no.

For more on Manx, see:
http://www.smo.uhi.ac.uk/~stephen/

The_Justin_angel
December 27th, 2004, 07:01 AM
Just to clarify - when you say 'talkable languages' you mean ones that you, as a Scottish Gaelic speaker, understand and by non-talkable you mean ones that you can't speak because they are from a different Celtic grouping?
Off course, it was meant only as a joke. I find it incredibly hard learning those languages. I never meant that no one could ever speak those languages. I only meant that I have *unresolved issues* with them.




Also, Welsh, Cornish and Breton are not Gaelic languages. Celtic, yes; Gaelic, no.Really? I remember that from the various articles I’ve read on the subject I never saw any distinction between the terms "Gaelic languages" and "Celtic languages". From what I understood it's customary to use the phrase "Gaelic" on all "Celtic" languages. Was I mistaken in that assumption?

stephy-sama
December 27th, 2004, 07:34 AM
This class hasn't already started yet has it? I've been trying to learn Gaelic for a few weeks with no success. I already know some french and a wee bit of japanese (not much at all), but I'd love to learn Gaelic. I'm particularly interested in Scottish, but I'd settle for Irish.

Nantonos
December 27th, 2004, 09:57 AM
Off course, it was meant only as a joke. I find it incredibly hard learning those languages. I never meant that no one could ever speak those languages. I only meant that I have *unresolved issues* with them.

I suspected that butwas just ensuring we were all talking about the same thing.



Really? I remember that from the various articles I’ve read on the subject I never saw any distinction between the terms "Gaelic languages" and "Celtic languages". From what I understood it's customary to use the phrase "Gaelic" on all "Celtic" languages. Was I mistaken in that assumption?



Yes. Gaelic is a term for the Q-Celtic group of Insular Celtic languages. Its not correct to use it for the P-Celtic Insular group or the (extinct) Continental Celtic languages.

Taurwen
December 29th, 2004, 12:30 PM
I think before anything goes further, we decide what kind of gaelic we're to teach/learn

celticfire
January 2nd, 2005, 11:39 AM
i'd prefer to learn scots-gaelic...but whatever. at least it would be a start.;)

BrigidMoon
January 2nd, 2005, 12:07 PM
Bump, would love to be part of this class!

stephy-sama
January 6th, 2005, 01:24 PM
I vote for scot as well. Though Irish would be fine by me.

Fane Ayuma
January 11th, 2005, 09:06 AM
i dont know if theres anyone certified enough here to teach a language... especially not a more acient & complex language..


Just saw this thread, and i know its kind of dead now, but if people are still interested iv no problem doing it.Even if its just basic pronounciation classes.

And i would be fully able to teach the language, i speak it more then i speak english.

Mòrag Elasaid Ní Dhòmhnaill
January 11th, 2005, 09:55 AM
Just saw this thread, and i know its kind of dead now, but if people are still interested iv no problem doing it.Even if its just basic pronounciation classes.

And i would be fully able to teach the language, i speak it more then i speak english.

That would be great...however, which would you be teaching? Irish, Scots Gaelic or Manx? BTW, I'd love it if you would go beyond pronunciation. Pronunciation, at least for me is easy part, it's the grammer I have issues with.

Alaiyo
January 11th, 2005, 10:18 AM
I know neither so whichever you chose would be all right with me.

Mouse
January 11th, 2005, 10:32 AM
I'd love to learn either but my preference would be Irish. :)

Kaylara
January 11th, 2005, 10:59 AM
Well, just let me know when you decide what to do and I'll create the class for you.

Nantonos
January 11th, 2005, 12:38 PM
My personal preference would be Old Irish :) ie going back as far as possible. But that is because the only Celtic language I have studied is Gaulish which is even older.

Willow Rosette
January 12th, 2005, 09:44 PM
please count me in....this sounds like a wonderful challange.....im not picky which type is taught.....ill keep my fingers crossed this class works out.

BrigidMoon
January 16th, 2005, 11:49 AM
Irish is the vote for me!

Windigo
January 25th, 2005, 09:15 PM
Regardless of dialect, I'm always willing to pick up a new language :hearteyes

fadeerskin
February 15th, 2005, 12:41 PM
i'd love to learn Irish

fa deerskin

ollathair
February 22nd, 2005, 07:16 PM
I want to learn it, too ... but, does anyone out there have the skills, the willingness, and the time, to teach us?

gypsy0108
April 14th, 2005, 09:44 PM
Hey I have always wanted to learn Gaelic I Know just a little but not much hopefully someone will want to teach it.
If there not we could always form a discussion group of some sort and use the link given at the first of the thread mabey we could help each other learn it.

BrigidMoon
May 7th, 2005, 01:58 PM
I want to learn it, too ... but, does anyone out there have the skills, the willingness, and the time, to teach us?

Good question. I'd love to know that myself. If so, we owe em a beer ;)

Briana
July 5th, 2005, 06:12 PM
DEFINITELY interested! I have tried to learn Irish Gaelic, but I found the spelling and pronunciation rather difficult...although it was one of those immersion CDs from 8 years ago so maybe that is why. I would love to learn Irish but I'm also in Scottish Step and go to the games alot so Scots would be kool to.

Just a thought...maybe there is an inexpensive CD course that we could work with? It might be difficult to find tho as Irish is not one of the 'main languages' (Scots would be impossible). I would be keen on forking out some dough to get the pronunciation along with the spelling.

Blessings,
Briana

Ishtara
July 5th, 2005, 06:45 PM
Ooh yes!!! :bouncybob
Learning laguages is one my passions, I would sign up for an Irish Gaelic class in a heartbeat! The only Celtic language I speak is a bit of Breton, I would love to be able to compare it to Gaelic.

Here's hoping we can find someone to teach us... :)

Auroro
July 6th, 2005, 08:30 AM
You have my head to count.

Whisper
:dis:

Alaiyo
July 6th, 2005, 08:54 AM
I suppose at this point it looks like a teacher should come forward, actually count heads and discuss curriculum and terms of "compensation."

Mòrag Elasaid Ní Dhòmhnaill
July 8th, 2005, 01:54 PM
(Scots would be impossible).

I'm assuming you actually mean Gaidhlig (Scots Gaelic) here and not actually Scots, because Scots is a different language entirely.

Ishtara
August 1st, 2005, 01:04 PM
Bumpity bump because many people have expressed interest...

If we cannot find a teacher, could we at least start discussing what the best tools would be (books, DVD, etc) to learn on our own?
Then we could start a sort of support thread to report on our progress/difficulties and ideally the more advanced speakers here could tutor us and help us when we struggle with a lesson.

Does that sound feasible? I am aware that no online class could possibly replace a good conversation class with a native speaker, but I would love to get something started for those of us who want to learn at least the basics :steppy:

Briana
August 3rd, 2005, 06:22 PM
I'm assuming you actually mean Gaidhlig (Scots Gaelic) here and not actually Scots, because Scots is a different language entirely.

Yep...that's what I get for pulling a short cut!

Mòrag Elasaid Ní Dhòmhnaill
August 5th, 2005, 11:55 AM
In that case, Gaidhlig would not be impossible to find a CD-Rom of. I have a computer program with a whole bunch of different languages on it and it has both Gaidhlig and Gaelige. It actually has several hard to find languages on it. When I get home I can provide the name of the computer program if you're interested. It's a pretty good one, I've just not had the time to use it lately.

mol
August 5th, 2005, 12:10 PM
If we cannot find a teacher, could we at least start discussing what the best tools would be (books, DVD, etc) to learn on our own?

Does anyone know Gaelic?

Mòrag Elasaid Ní Dhòmhnaill
August 5th, 2005, 12:15 PM
There are a few fluent Gaelic (Irish, I don't think I've encountered any that speak Scots Gaelic) speakers on MW, but I none of them have offered to teach a course. I believe both Fane Ayuma and Tangerines speak Irish fluently.

Childof_theMorrigan
August 5th, 2005, 03:00 PM
one of the things on my to do list....

mol
August 5th, 2005, 03:05 PM
There are a few fluent Gaelic (Irish, I don't think I've encountered any that speak Scots Gaelic) speakers on MW, but I none of them have offered to teach a course. I believe both Fane Ayuma and Tangerines speak Irish fluently.
Well, then...I will contact them.

Rayzer
August 5th, 2005, 04:00 PM
I'd love to learn.

Rayzer
August 5th, 2005, 04:05 PM
bulgarian is a lot like russian

Mòrag Elasaid Ní Dhòmhnaill
August 5th, 2005, 08:14 PM
Well, then...I will contact them.

That's fabulous mol. Thanks! :acheeer:

CromanMacNessa
August 11th, 2005, 02:05 AM
There are a few fluent Gaelic (Irish, I don't think I've encountered any that speak Scots Gaelic) speakers on MW, but I none of them have offered to teach a course. I believe both Fane Ayuma and Tangerines speak Irish fluently.

Madainn mhath dhuit, a Mhòrag, agus dhuibh, a h-uile duine.

I read and write a bit of Gaelic (that is, Scottish Gaelic = Gàidhlig), but I am not yet at a point where I could teach it. I know only very little modern Irish (Gaeilge); I know a little more Old Irish (Sengoídelc), but also not to the point I could teach it. But if a course in Irish is offered, or a course in Gaelic, or both, I would happily take part in improving my skills.

Sea-Witch
August 11th, 2005, 07:55 AM
Madainn mhath. Ciamar a tha sibh? Tha i brèagha an-diugh.

I am currently learning Scottish Gaelic. I took a 101 class my first year of university and have signed up to take the 201 class in September. My instructor is also the Gaelic language director at the Gaelic College in Cape Breton, Nova Scotia. Gàidhlig is a fun language to learn if you can wrap your tongue around some of those words - the pronunciations kill me. LOL

Sage WindMoon
August 12th, 2005, 11:58 PM
[QUOTE=Sea-Witch]Madainn math. Ciamar a tha sibh? Tha i brèagha an-diugh.

Feasgar math! Tha mi gu math, tapadh leibh - ciamar a tha sibh fhèin? Tha i fliuch an-seo a-nochd.

Rayzer
August 15th, 2005, 07:40 PM
http://www.byki.com/download_FLS.pl?cod=Njim1 (http://www.byki.com/download_FLS.pl?cod=Njim1) here's a link that lets you download a program onto your computer and it's irish cuz that's what I chose.

Kern
August 18th, 2005, 05:47 PM
http://www.byki.com/download_FLS.pl?cod=Njim1 (http://www.byki.com/download_FLS.pl?cod=Njim1) here's a link that lets you download a program onto your computer and it's irish cuz that's what I chose.
Thanks for the link..downloading it as I type... _twohorns_

Kern
August 18th, 2005, 06:11 PM
Well is this class a go yet?
I do have a suggestion if we find a Teach,we could always use Yahoo messenger with voice for the verbal parts..to see if we are pronouncing the words correctly.

BrigidMoon
August 19th, 2005, 07:39 AM
Not sure if we have a teacher for this type of class yet.

Sea-Witch
August 20th, 2005, 09:53 AM
Feasgar math! Tha mi gu math, tapadh leibh - ciamar a tha sibh fhèin? Tha i fliuch an-seo a-nochd.

Hallo Sage WindMoon! Tha mi meadhanach math, tapadh leat. Tha Gàidhlig agad? Tha beagan Gàidhlig agam. Tha mi ag ionnsachadh Gàidhlig. Tha mi a' fuireach ann an Eilean Cheap Breatainn. Tha teaghlach agam - tha mac [13] agus tha nighean [12]. Chan eil chèile agad. Chan eil mi pòsda. Dè tha dol an-diugh? A bheil thu gam thuigsinn? Mar sin leat an-dràsda.

Kern
August 21st, 2005, 06:33 AM
Why is it that evertime I see something about Gaelic on like a TV special or something,they say that Gaelic is dying out,mainly because English is more popular and is the language of Business etc etc..Bull crap...If places like Isreal,Icleand,Japan and other areas can keep their native languages and still do business with the English speaking world so can Ireland,Scotland,Wales,Brittany(french with them) etc.. :fpipesmok

Sage WindMoon
August 21st, 2005, 01:38 PM
Hallo Sage WindMoon! Tha mi meadhanach math, tapadh leat. Tha Gàidhlig agad? Tha beagan Gàidhlig agam. Tha mi ag ionnsachadh Gàidhlig. Tha mi a' fuireach ann an Eilean Cheap Breatainn. Tha teaghlach agam - tha mac [13] agus tha nighean [12]. Chan eil chèile agad. Chan eil mi pòsda. Dè tha dol an-diugh? A bheil thu gam thuigsinn? Mar sin leat an-dràsda.

Hallo Sea-Witch!! Tha mi ag ionnsachadh Gàidhlig cuideachd, agus tha beagan Gàidhlig agam cuideachd. Tha mi a' fuireach ann na Stàitean Aonaichte. Tha nighean [9] agus mac [3] agam, agus tha mi pòsda. Tha, tha mi gur tuigsinn (beagan!). Slàn leat an-dràsda!

Alaiyo
October 3rd, 2005, 03:51 PM
Apparently the informal Gaelic class has begun.

Moonlite Faery
October 3rd, 2005, 05:39 PM
I would love to take Gaelic if it is offered.

The Dagda
November 19th, 2005, 09:50 PM
Hallo Sage WindMoon! Tha mi meadhanach math, tapadh leat. Tha Gàidhlig agad? Tha beagan Gàidhlig agam. Tha mi ag ionnsachadh Gàidhlig. Tha mi a' fuireach ann an Eilean Cheap Breatainn. Tha teaghlach agam - tha mac [13] agus tha nighean [12]. Chan eil chèile agad. Chan eil mi pòsda. Dè tha dol an-diugh? A bheil thu gam thuigsinn? Mar sin leat an-dràsda.


an bhfuil tu ag caint i gaeilge d'albain? ca bhfuil tu ina conai anois? sna stait aontaithe? ce he an muinteoir anseo? tusa? bhi gaeilge liofa agam roinnt bhliain o shin, ach ta meirg orm anois mar nil aon duine eile ar bith agam, ata in ann gaeilge a labhairt in eineacht liom. thabharfainn failte don aon teagasc, no cupla focal gaeilge le duine eile.

ar aon nos,
oiche mhaith, ........(ta mo leaba ag glaoch, taim an-tuirseach, agus duiseoidh me ar a seacht a chlog maidin amarach....ahh, ach ta se leathuis a do anois!) creidim gur beidh me tuirseach fos ag a seacht!

Alaiyo
November 20th, 2005, 11:32 AM
Eigo ga moo ichido itte kudasai?

Sea-Witch
November 28th, 2005, 11:52 AM
an bhfuil tu ag caint i gaeilge d'albain? ca bhfuil tu ina conai anois? sna stait aontaithe? ce he an muinteoir anseo? tusa? bhi gaeilge liofa agam roinnt bhliain o shin, ach ta meirg orm anois mar nil aon duine eile ar bith agam, ata in ann gaeilge a labhairt in eineacht liom. thabharfainn failte don aon teagasc, no cupla focal gaeilge le duine eile.

ar aon nos,
oiche mhaith, ........(ta mo leaba ag glaoch, taim an-tuirseach, agus duiseoidh me ar a seacht a chlog maidin amarach....ahh, ach ta se leathuis a do anois!) creidim gur beidh me tuirseach fos ag a seacht!


Chan eil mi gad thuigsinn - tha mi duilich. Chan eil 'gaeilge' agam.

Crystal Raven
November 28th, 2005, 04:32 PM
i would be interested

lilyavalon
November 29th, 2005, 12:46 PM
me me me oh sign me up mee!!!!

The Dagda
November 29th, 2005, 07:19 PM
Chan eil mi gad thuigsinn - tha mi duilich. Chan eil 'gaeilge' agam.

an bhfuil tu ag sriobh i gaeilge albanach? nilim in ann gach rud a thuiscint!
RE: "chan eil 'gaeilge' agam", an bhfuil tu ag fiafrai - cen saghas gaeilge ata agat?

ps. ar dtuigeann tu cad ata me ag ra?

Shayla
December 1st, 2005, 02:07 AM
Sign me up!


Shayla

fafonen
December 3rd, 2005, 09:00 AM
I'd definitely be interested as well.

Muttnboofer
December 3rd, 2005, 05:35 PM
Ummm...which form of Gaelic? Scots or Irish? I'm working on Irish right now using software I got from a site called "Before you know it...". Also, which dialect? I am brushing up/learning Cork, but my husband speaks a variant of Kerry and there are some slight differences (kind of like New York Vs. Texas accent). I get confused easily :)

Muttnboofer

The Dagda
December 12th, 2005, 08:17 PM
Ummm...which form of Gaelic? Scots or Irish? I'm working on Irish right now using software I got from a site called "Before you know it...". Also, which dialect? I am brushing up/learning Cork, but my husband speaks a variant of Kerry and there are some slight differences (kind of like New York Vs. Texas accent). I get confused easily :)

Muttnboofer
bhi me ag caint i gaeilge, connacht irish. i wouldnt call cork or kerry, dialects, just coloquial groups, they are both munster irish. is cuma liom, cen saghas gaeilge a usaideann tu in aon chur. write sum here!

Marcasite
December 16th, 2005, 09:15 PM
Eigo ga moo ichido itte kudasai?
hai, onegaishimas! watashi wa gaelic o wakarimasen. Demo, watashi no nihongo mo yokumasen...

Alaiyo
December 18th, 2005, 11:50 AM
Watashi wa sukoshi Nihongo mo yomimasu.

Fane Ayuma
January 23rd, 2006, 08:41 AM
an bhfuil tu ag caint i gaeilge d'albain? ca bhfuil tu ina conai anois? sna stait aontaithe? ce he an muinteoir anseo? tusa? bhi gaeilge liofa agam roinnt bhliain o shin, ach ta meirg orm anois mar nil aon duine eile ar bith agam, ata in ann gaeilge a labhairt in eineacht liom. thabharfainn failte don aon teagasc, no cupla focal gaeilge le duine eile.

ar aon nos,
oiche mhaith, ........(ta mo leaba ag glaoch, taim an-tuirseach, agus duiseoidh me ar a seacht a chlog maidin amarach....ahh, ach ta se leathuis a do anois!) creidim gur beidh me tuirseach fos ag a seacht!


Tá an t-aon teanga agam is a bhfuil agat, cad as tú??Agus mona bhfuil tú ó éireann i cén chaoi atá an tenga agat??

The Pictish Druid
January 24th, 2006, 02:54 PM
Gaelic originated in Ireland. Irish Christian missionaries introducted the language to the Isle of Man which has a Gaelic dilect called Manx. The Irish missionaries converted many of the Picts to Christainity and also introducted them to the Gaelic language, hence the reason why it became established in Scotland. When the Pictish kingdom united with the Scoti of Dalriada in 843AD it became more widespeard throughout Scotland. Until the 1th and 12th centuries settlements and intermarrying with Saxons and Normans led to the establishment of the Scots language. Since that time Gaelic was essentially a Highland language. Since the Highland clearances only a few people in the western ilses speak it.

The Pictish Druid
January 24th, 2006, 03:21 PM
Despite being a Scot, the idea of Gaelic does not appeal to me. Scotland has its own national language Scots. Its use and preservation has been neglected over the past 300 years since the union of parliaments in 1707.

I am also not keen because as my username suggests; I am into reconstructing the druid tradition of the ancient Picts. The demise of Pictish druids was probably due to these Gaelic speaking Irish missionaries who introduced Gaelic to Caledonians/Picts while converting them to Christianity.

mol
January 24th, 2006, 05:08 PM
Holy shite. So, does anyone want to teach this thing?

Alaiyo
January 24th, 2006, 05:27 PM
I would be interested in knowing that also.

Ishtara
January 24th, 2006, 11:26 PM
So, does anyone want to teach this thing?

That would be great, since we obviously have some fluent speakers here... ;)

I know that it is very hard to teach a language online, but if full-fledged classes are not possible, couldn't we at least do a basic introduction to Gaelic or some sort of tutoring where a fluent speaker would help those of us who are learning from books and CDs?

Please, pretty please! :hahugh:

Shanti
January 24th, 2006, 11:54 PM
hey simple pronounciation would help!! :)

Ishtara
January 25th, 2006, 12:26 AM
But is there such a thing as "simple" pronunciation in Gaelic? It seems to me that some of the letters produce some pretty unexpected sounds ;)

Seriously though, I wholeheartedly agree that a crash course in pronunciation would be very helpful!

The Pictish Druid
January 25th, 2006, 02:40 AM
Despite my earlier comments I am nevertheless in favour of the preservation of the Gaelic language as part of our historical heritage. I also realise that learning Gaelic is a good idea for those pagans whose path is that of the reconstruction of the Irish druid tradition.

Fane Ayuma
January 26th, 2006, 02:45 PM
Mol, i walked around looking at books for beginners Irish.There are some good ones, but they are nearly all are books that come with a cd or tape.Now i would be more then happy to teach it , but i have no experience teaching.And i would use these books, except the fact that they are all books that need the cd they come with to learn.

I would gladly buy these books and teach a class but because of copyright i cant put the cd up here can i??or if there was a book widely available on the subject i could use that.

Its just that there isnt even many material on learning the language even in ireland.

Now if i was to teach it would also be irish, not any other form of gaelic.

Fane Ayuma
January 26th, 2006, 02:46 PM
Mol, i walked around looking at books for beginners Irish.There are some good ones, but they are nearly all are books that come with a cd or tape.Now i would be more then happy to teach it , but i have no experience teaching.And i would use these books, except the fact that they are all books that need the cd they come with to learn.

I would gladly buy these books and teach a class but because of copyright i cant put the cd up here can i??or if there was a book widely available on the subject i could use that.

Its just that there isnt even much material on learning the language even in ireland.

Also if i was to teach it would be irish, not any other form of gaelic.

Ishtara
January 26th, 2006, 07:07 PM
Hi Fane Ayuma :wave:

If you let us know which beginner's books you recommend, maybe we could look them up on Amazon or something and see if we can get them here?

Sea-Witch
January 28th, 2006, 09:14 PM
In response to Ishtara's post, I would say that there is no such thing as simple when it comes to Gaelic pronunciation. As was mentioned, many words aren't pronounced the way they are spelled ... it depends on letter groupings, accents, and dialects.

Of course, once you get it down, it's a beautiful thing.

The Dagda
February 2nd, 2006, 09:44 PM
Tá an t-aon teanga agam is a bhfuil agat, cad as tú??Agus mona bhfuil tú ó éireann i cén chaoi atá an tenga agat??

ta me go maith, go raibh maith agat! agus tusa?
taim ina chonai abhaile, ag staidir, ach is maith liom ag lorg trid an idirghreasan o am go ham, agus mar sin e, shroich me anseo. Thomhaisfinn go bhfuil tu on Mumhan le do "Cen Chaoi" ? lol, ca bhfuil tu ina chonai anois? Ar aon nos, go muine tu cupla focail gaeilge do na daoine anseo! Taim tuirseach ag eisteacht le daoine anseo ag caint faoin Eirinn, agus nil aon focail gaeilge acu. Creidim go bhfuil se an-amaideach. mar a duirt me roimhe sin,ta meirg ar mo gaeilge, ach cabhroidh me tusa nuair ata me in ann.

slan leat, agus oiche maith.
ta na muisiriuin draiocht in eadan an dli anois!

AineDanu
February 3rd, 2006, 12:42 AM
It is one of my dreams to be able to speak Gaelic so I hope we can find a way to do it. :)

Meabh23
February 3rd, 2006, 02:04 AM
In response to Ishtara's post, I would say that there is no such thing as simple when it comes to Gaelic pronunciation. As was mentioned, many words aren't pronounced the way they are spelled ... it depends on letter groupings, accents, and dialects.

Of course, once you get it down, it's a beautiful thing.


English is worse. Trust me. You might not see how amazingly silly and inconsistent English spelling is unless you weren't a native speaker.

Ishtara
February 3rd, 2006, 02:51 AM
:uhhuhuh: How very, very true! *says Ishtara who will probably struggle with her pronunciation forever*

Meabh23
February 3rd, 2006, 03:23 AM
Irish was a piece of cake after English.

Though I haven't used it in years.

Fane Ayuma
February 4th, 2006, 09:53 AM
ta me go maith, go raibh maith agat! agus tusa?
taim ina chonai abhaile, ag staidir, ach is maith liom ag lorg trid an idirghreasan o am go ham, agus mar sin e, shroich me anseo. Thomhaisfinn go bhfuil tu on Mumhan le do "Cen Chaoi" ? lol, ca bhfuil tu ina chonai anois? Ar aon nos, go muine tu cupla focail gaeilge do na daoine anseo! Taim tuirseach ag eisteacht le daoine anseo ag caint faoin Eirinn, agus nil aon focail gaeilge acu. Creidim go bhfuil se an-amaideach. mar a duirt me roimhe sin,ta meirg ar mo gaeilge, ach cabhroidh me tusa nuair ata me in ann.

slan leat, agus oiche maith.
ta na muisiriuin draiocht in eadan an dli anois!

Ta sé co-súil le go bfuil ag léibh cad atáim ag smaoineamh.Go Háirithe na Méiricéanaigh, tá siad gó léir in ghrá le mo guth agus gach rud mar sin mar go bhfuilim as Eireann, tá sé amadach, tá sé ceart gó lóir ag an tús ach tar éis am eirionn sé léadránach.Agus sea, O Chorcai atáim.Ni úsaidim Cen Choai e fein ach chiurim e isteach ó ám go háim mar is brea liom an fuaim as na focal...is docha ón gailimh a tagann sé.Agus tá me co-súil leat, tá an teanga go flúirseach agam, ach nil éinne timpeall chun caint as gaelige leo agus mar sin tá mé ag caill focal anseo agus ansiúd.

The Dagda
February 4th, 2006, 08:11 PM
Ta sé co-súil le go bfuil ag léibh cad atáim ag smaoineamh.Go Háirithe na Méiricéanaigh, tá siad gó léir in ghrá le mo guth agus gach rud mar sin mar go bhfuilim as Eireann, tá sé amadach, tá sé ceart gó lóir ag an tús ach tar éis am eirionn sé léadránach.Agus sea, O Chorcai atáim.Ni úsaidim Cen Choai e fein ach chiurim e isteach ó ám go háim mar is brea liom an fuaim as na focal...is docha ón gailimh a tagann sé.Agus tá me co-súil leat, tá an teanga go flúirseach agam, ach nil éinne timpeall chun caint as gaelige leo agus mar sin tá mé ag caill focal anseo agus ansiúd.

LOL!, oh, na meiriceanaigh!, uaireanta ta siad lan le cac! lol! Ach taimse as Eireann freisin, agus nil siad i gnra le mo guth! B'fheidir go bhfuil se, mar taim i gconai ag argoint le na "druidi", no daoine eile gan aon fior-eolais mar eireann.
Ah, nil siad ro-dana, ach ta tu ceart go leor nuair a deireann tu go bhfuil se leadranach, agus beagainin greannmhar?
Ar aon nos, ceapaim go bhfuil mise agus tusa an dha saineolaithe gaeilge ar an MW! Ba mhaith liom piosai beaga eolais a tabhairt don na doine a theastionn se, ach nil a lan am agam. Da thosofa ranga gaeilge anseo, cabhroidh me tusa nuair ata me in ann!

leann ar aghaidh!

The Lady
February 7th, 2006, 09:14 PM
What about you two - The Dagda and Fane Ayuma? Care to be the Gaelic instructor? You both seem to have a firm grasp of the language????

Meabh23
February 7th, 2006, 10:41 PM
LOL!, oh, na meiriceanaigh!, uaireanta ta siad lan le cac! lol! Ach taimse as Eireann freisin, agus nil siad i gnra le mo guth! B'fheidir go bhfuil se, mar taim i gconai ag argoint le na "druidi", no daoine eile gan aon fior-eolais mar eireann.
Ah, nil siad ro-dana, ach ta tu ceart go leor nuair a deireann tu go bhfuil se leadranach, agus beagainin greannmhar?
Ar aon nos, ceapaim go bhfuil mise agus tusa an dha saineolaithe gaeilge ar an MW! Ba mhaith liom piosai beaga eolais don na doine a theastionn se, ach nil a lan am agam. Da thosofa ranga gaeilge anseo, cabhroidh me tusa nuair ata me in ann!

leann ar aghaidh!

Haha! I actually understand that. I just don't have the ability to write in Irish on this computer, and also I am rusty. Let's try.

Bhi me in Eirinn cupla blian o shin agus me i gra leis na daoine 's tir. Bhi me ansin faoi se no seacht mionna. Ta me i mo chonai i Meireaca anois.

That's about all for now. My brain is wrapped around too many little things at the moment to focus.

Stormwt
February 8th, 2006, 08:31 AM
My family are all irish and my Nan was taught gaelic at school.

pointless comment

The Dagda
February 9th, 2006, 07:30 PM
Haha! I actually understand that. I just don't have the ability to write in Irish on this computer, and also I am rusty. Let's try.

Bhi me in Eirinn cupla blian o shin agus me i gra leis na daoine 's tir. Bhi me ansin faoi se no seacht mionna. Ta me i mo chonai i Meireaca anois.

That's about all for now. My brain is wrapped around too many little things at the moment to focus.

lol, bhuel, da mbeadh tu in ann a thuiscint, conas ata tu?
nuair a bhi tu anseo, ca raibh tu ina chonai?
cinnte, ta tu cailin ro-halainn mar na stait aontaithe, an bhfuil tu ag teacht ar ais sna todhchai?????

The Lady
February 9th, 2006, 08:15 PM
What? What did you say? I don't know what you're saying? EXPLAIN!!!


So when do classes start?

Shanti
February 9th, 2006, 08:21 PM
What? What did you say? I don't know what you're saying? EXPLAIN!!!


So when do classes start?
Well if you want to learn with my family and me, we have a class on it on our websites forum. Link is in my siggy. If a family on 4 can learn together, I figured why not share with who ever wants as we go along? :)

Meabh23
February 10th, 2006, 01:49 AM
lol, bhuel, da mbeadh tu in ann a thuiscint, conas ata tu?
nuair a bhi tu anseo, ca raibh tu ina chonai?
cinnte, ta tu cailin ro-halainn mar na stait aontaithe, an bhfuil tu ag teacht ar ais sna todhchai?????

Ta me go maith. Is tusa?

Bhi me i mo chonai i nGaillimh trath, i mBaile Atha Cliath trath, agus thuas i mBeal Feirste trath agus chuaigh me "all over the place."

Ba mhaith liom teacht ar ais. I gcupla bliain, b'fheidir. (Ha! Mo chuid droch-ghaeilge!)

The Dagda
February 12th, 2006, 08:36 PM
Ta me go maith. Is tusa?

Bhi me i mo chonai i nGaillimh trath, i mBaile Atha Cliath trath, agus thuas i mBeal Feirste trath agus chuaigh me "all over the place."

Ba mhaith liom teacht ar ais. I gcupla bliain, b'fheidir. (Ha! Mo chuid droch-ghaeilge!)


Gallimh? is e an baile is fearr liom ar an iomlan. nilim ro-ceanuil faoi baile atha cliath, ta se ro-salach! Agus beal feirste, le mo bhlas, ceapaim nach bheadh se ro-cliste a tabhair cuairt ar, go minic!

Anyway, Slan mar anois.

Meabh23
February 14th, 2006, 03:26 AM
Gallimh? is e an baile is fearr liom ar an iomlan. nilim ro-ceanuil faoi baile atha cliath, ta se ro-salach! Agus, le mo bhlas, ceapaim nach bheadh se ro-cliste a tabhair cuairt ar, go minic!

Anyway, Slan mar anois.

Ta ceart agat. Bhi Baile Atha Cliath ro-salach. B'fhearr liom Gaillimh...B'fhearr liom Beal Feirste. Ach An Uaimh Greine is an ait is fearr.

Fane Ayuma
February 14th, 2006, 10:56 AM
Ta ceart agat. Bhi Baile Atha Cliath ro-salach. B'fhearr liom Gaillimh...B'fhearr liom Beal Feirste. Ach An Uaimh Greine is an ait is fearr.


Is fuaith liom Átha clia, ta gailimh ceart go lóir, ach is ea i Corcaigh a bhfuil m'chro.Is ea an promhcathair ceart!

Meabh23
February 16th, 2006, 01:26 PM
Ni dheachaigh me go Corcaigh nuair a bhi me ansin in Eirinn. An oversight, b'fheidir? An trath seo chugainn, dheafaidh me cuairt.

The Dagda
February 17th, 2006, 08:47 PM
Ni dheachaigh me go Corcaigh nuair a bhi me ansin in Eirinn. An oversight, b'fheidir? An trath seo chugainn, dheafaidh me cuairt.

B'fheidir? Cinnte! Corcaigh is e an priomh cathair cultur na hEorpach!
nach bhfuil se ceart go leor fayne?? :cheers: agus :cheers:


:fpraise: :fpraise: :fpraise: Corcaigh

lol, ah nilim ach ag magadh fuat!
i ndairire, ta se contae go deas, ta col ceathari agamsa ina chonai i gcorcaigh.

Garden of Eden
March 5th, 2006, 08:35 AM
Cad é atá cearr le Doire? :P Tá mé i mo chonai i nDoire, agus, í mo bharuil, is é an cathair is fearr san Eireann.

(Fosta, tá bron orm faoi mo droch-ghaeilge, tá me ag foghlaim go foill! And feel free to correct me ;))

Alaiyo
March 5th, 2006, 12:35 PM
Ahhh....

_Banbha_
March 9th, 2006, 04:45 PM
This is just becuase it's what I'm most accustumed too. But, Ni heolas go haontios. So any Irish dialect would be great to learn. And I'm happy learn more than the few phrases I already know (like: 'pog mo thion!' Which has come in handy at times, I'll admit;) )

PeatBog
April 24th, 2006, 10:19 PM
:fphone Sign me up for Gaidhlig, please.

Zelan
April 25th, 2006, 01:01 AM
That would be so cool! count me in!

Meabh23
April 25th, 2006, 10:50 AM
Cá bhfuil an rang seo? nó nó c'náit a bheidh sé?

Zelan
April 25th, 2006, 08:55 PM
What? What did you say? I don't know what you're saying? EXPLAIN!!!


So when do classes start?

Well, I don't know about the blind leading the blind thing Tamela, but I'll show you stuff as I learn it too.

Ciamar a tha thu?=How are you? (informal, familiar)
pronounced (Kaymer a ha oo)
or Ciamar a tha sibh?=how are you? (polite form)
Pronounced (Kaymer a ha shiv)

Remember to roll your R's like the Parisians do.

Thu is used when talking to one person, and sibh is is also the plural

Tha gu math, tapadh leibh!=fine thanks! (polite form)
pronounced (Ha gu mah, Tahpuh leeve)
Tha gu math, tapadh leat! = Fine thanks! (familiar, informal)
pronounced (Ha gu mah, tahpuh leht)
or Gle mhath! = very well!
pronounced (glay vah)


Very introductory, but hey that's the page I'm on.

Sea-Witch
April 28th, 2006, 12:21 PM
Depending on where you are, dialects differ.

I pronounce ciamar - kimmer and not kaymer.

Just sayin'. :hahugh:

Zelan
April 30th, 2006, 04:08 AM
Just an approxamation. Wasn't sure what way would work better phonetically. Thanks for the input though!

Sea-Witch
April 30th, 2006, 07:50 AM
Even when you are able to take classes with a teacher, pronunciation can be confusing. My teacher teaches one dialect, but speaks another. And he often makes a point of giving both pronunciations for words. I try to stick with just one though ... it's hard enough as it is and I don't want to confuse myself unnecessarily. LOL

Zelan
April 30th, 2006, 02:38 PM
I'm just learning from books for now. Gaelic is harder than I thought. I think regional dialects are something that gets omitted in this particular medium.

Meabh23
May 11th, 2006, 03:50 AM
That's interesting. It seems similar to "Cad e mar ta tu?" in Irish. (Which sounds like "CaJAY mar TAh TOO")

mol
May 11th, 2006, 11:08 AM
So, do we have a teacher? =P Someone email me!

Zelan
May 12th, 2006, 05:41 AM
That's interesting. It seems similar to "Cad e mar ta tu?" in Irish. (Which sounds like "CaJAY mar TAh TOO")


My bit there was Scots Gaelic.
I know there is actually quite a bit in the way of languages and regional dialects for such a small part of the world.

Meabh23
May 17th, 2006, 03:47 AM
My bit there was Scots Gaelic.
I know there is actually quite a bit in the way of languages and regional dialects for such a small part of the world.

I thought it was Scots Gaelic. I decided to pick up a few books on it. To check it out.

My phrase is Irish of course but it turns out that it is used mainly in Donegal (which is a really nice part of Ireland, if you should ever have the chance to see it). I had it pointed out to me by a friend recently that the most usual way Irish people say "How are you?" is "Cen chaoi bhfuil tu?"

Whatever and such.

Hey, Mol. I don't know about me being qualified or whatever, but if you still lack a Gaelic teacher in the future at some point, contact me. I would be happy to do so, though my Irish is second hand and a little rusty. I just don't think I am the best to teach it since I don't come from the culture. I would prefer to defer to someone who has a stronger connection.

Anyway, I will help as much as I can, if needed.

Zelan
May 17th, 2006, 05:51 AM
So far I'd say that you (meabh23) are the most qualified.
For Irish Gaelic anyway. Do you have a knowledge of any of the other languages in the region?
Manx
Breton
Welsh
cornish

The Dagda
May 23rd, 2006, 10:06 PM
I had it pointed out to me by a friend recently that the most usual way Irish people say "How are you?" is "Cen chaoi bhfuil tu?"


Ni aontaim leis an raiteas thuasluaithe! Is e leagan cainte thuaidh! Ina iomlaine, usaidimid "Conas ata tu?" de ghnath.

PeatBog
May 26th, 2006, 03:19 PM
I'm not near fluent, but here's how to count to ten in Gaidhlig (Scots Gaelic), according to my dictionary:

aon [oon]
da [daah]
tri [tree]
ceithir [kay'-her]
coig [koh'-eek]
sia [shee'-uh]
seachd [shackhk]
ochd [awkhk]
naoidh [noohee]
deich [jaykh]

Garden of Eden
June 17th, 2006, 08:26 AM
I thought it was Scots Gaelic. I decided to pick up a few books on it. To check it out.

My phrase is Irish of course but it turns out that it is used mainly in Donegal (which is a really nice part of Ireland, if you should ever have the chance to see it). I had it pointed out to me by a friend recently that the most usual way Irish people say "How are you?" is "Cen chaoi bhfuil tu?"



Cad é mar atá tú? is Ulster dialect... it's commonly heard in the north. Conás atá tú? is the southern version. There are some variants between North South (actual differing words) as opposed to the differing pronounciations of the dialects.

I'm interested in this class, by the way. I have a reasonable level of Irish, though I'm not completely fluent, but I would be able to help out whoever's teaching or work with the total beginners.

(Agus aontaim leat, An Daghda, faoi sin.)

Wytchie
June 19th, 2006, 11:24 AM
[quote=Garden of Eden]Cad é mar atá tú? is Ulster dialect... it's commonly heard in the north. Conás atá tú? is the southern version. There are some variants between North South (actual differing words) as opposed to the differing pronounciations of the dialects.
quote]

Interesting as this applies to Welsh too...by the way for anyone interested in learning Welsh, the BBC have some free online lessons here http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/catchphrase/index.shtml and S4C (the Welsh language TV Broadcaster) are also offering free online lessons here http://www.learnons4c.co.uk/home.php .

MoonDragn
June 20th, 2006, 11:04 PM
Camad a tha thu, I would love to learn more gaelic.

Sea-Witch
June 21st, 2006, 07:26 AM
For anyone interested in the basics of Scottish Gaelic, this is a good place to start:

http://www.taic.btinternet.co.uk/Leasain.htm

I also recommend the book Teach Yourself Gaelic: A complete course in understanding, speaking, and writing Gaelic by Boyd Robertson and Iain Taylor.

Taic has audio, so you can hear the pronunciations. TYG can be purchased alone or with tapes [I'm hoping they'll switch to cd's soon].

anasia*la*fae
August 3rd, 2006, 04:29 PM
Yes, Yes, Yes!!!!
If there is a gaelic class, count me in! I've stopped and started teaching myself several times- but it's hard to keep on when you have no conversation, or anyone to base your knowledge against to know if you're getting it 'right.' Languages are beautiful, fluid entities meant to be shared among people and kept alive, I would LOVE to have a gaelic class. It would be just the motivation I need to reclaim that part of my heritage!

Fechín Taliba Rune
August 10th, 2006, 05:43 PM
If someone can actually get a class started on Gaelic sometime soon (any dialect, I'm flexible - I've got both Irish and Scottish blood in me veins) I will be fore'er in their debt.

Well, okay, maybe that's pushing it a bit, but I'll at least be deeply greatful. Who knows? Maybe I'll even send you an Irish blessing.

Cliona
September 4th, 2006, 01:25 AM
I was just thinking about this today and would absolutely LOVE a gaelic class!

Faol-chù
September 10th, 2006, 09:56 AM
'S mise Faol-chù. Tha mi air a bhi ag ionnsachadh Gàidhlig airson coig bliadhna. Tha beaga Gàidhlig agam, ach chan eil me fileanta fhathast. 'S toil leam ag ionnsachadh Gàidhlig.
Tha mi toilichte a dh' fhaicinn an ùidh na Gàidhlig is Gaeilge.


I am Faol-chù. I have been learning Scottish Gaelic for 5 years now. I have a little Gaelic, but I am not yet fluent. I like learning Gaelic.
I am happy to see the interest in Scottish Gaelic and Irish Gaelic.

I am going to second the recommendation for the TYG book and tape set.
I am also going to secon (or third or fourth or however many people said it) that you really need to HEAR the language spoken. Therefore, I do not think that the internet is the best place to teach it.

I am going to leave a link here for those who are truly interested in learning it. There are Scottish Gaelic learning groups all over North America. (I am involved with one of them.) In addition to learning the language, we are being exposed to songs and folklore. Our group is attempting to reconstruct the traditional cèilidhean, where one would often hear such things. As people become more fluent, they are encouraged to contribute what they can to the cèilidhean. (Although those who do not know enough Gaelic to contribute are also encouraged to contribute what they can in English.)

Here is a link fo ACGA...An Comunn Gàidhealach America.

If you're lucky, you may find that there is a class near you!

http://www.acgamerica.org/

Le deagh gach dùrachd,
(With every good wish,)

MajorTal
September 24th, 2006, 05:34 PM
Hey now don't forget the Canadian Gaelic!!!Spoken in Nova Scotia and Cape Breton Island and PEI!

The Dagda
October 3rd, 2006, 09:35 PM
Nuair a duisionn amarach,
Fuair inniu bas ar an la roimhe,
Na dean dearmad ar an aimsir fhaistineach,
Mar is phaiste e dar aimsir caite.

Meabh23
October 4th, 2006, 11:51 AM
Tá muid beo! Tochaill go doimhin ionat féin! Tiocfaidh ár mbláth!

Jadewynd~
October 4th, 2006, 04:50 PM
I would love to learn Irish (Gaelic), it's part of my heritage as well. My great grandmother would be smiling upon me from above if I did learn. Count me in for Irish (Gaelic).:yayah:

Meabh23
October 5th, 2006, 08:32 AM
I would love to learn Irish (Gaelic), it's part of my heritage as well. My great grandmother would be smiling upon me from above if I did learn. Count me in for Irish (Gaelic).:yayah:

Idir a' dá linn...you can look up the RTE lessons among others linked to the learners' online periodical "Beo" [ http://www.beo.ie ]

I believe the links usually appear as images in the right side bar of the page if you scroll through a bit. RTE has lessons online, some basic ones, and also a full course you can purchase from them. There is also good material on the Belfast/N.I. BBC site. I believe you can find that link on "Beo" as well.

I have no historical or heritage connection to Irish, but I liked the language enough to make a go of it. I'll be taking a trip to Ireland near the end of this month. I'm to be visiting a friend up in Donegal and I plan on swinging over into N.I. and if I get a chance, I want to visit England. The latter is iffy at the moment, since my funds are not the greatest.

Jadewynd~
October 5th, 2006, 01:37 PM
Idir a' dá linn...you can look up the RTE lessons among others linked to the learners' online periodical "Beo" [ http://www.beo.ie ]

I believe the links usually appear as images in the right side bar of the page if you scroll through a bit. RTE has lessons online, some basic ones, and also a full course you can purchase from them. There is also good material on the Belfast/N.I. BBC site. I believe you can find that link on "Beo" as well.

I have no historical or heritage connection to Irish, but I liked the language enough to make a go of it. I'll be taking a trip to Ireland near the end of this month. I'm to be visiting a friend up in Donegal and I plan on swinging over into N.I. and if I get a chance, I want to visit England. The latter is iffy at the moment, since my funds are not the greatest.


Thanks for that site! I also found this site http://www.solaseireann.com/Beginning_Irish_Introduction.htm
awhile back but, I haven't really started. I just glanced the Intro. I really would like to take a formal class. Just to be sure I am learning the correct pronuciation. May be I should look into one of the colleges near by, may be they'll have a course? It's just not a common language, it's a dying language some say. I only know one area here in NY that the elderly still speak Irish (gaelic).

Edit: Not sure if you are in this area of Ireland but, visit the Cliffs of Moher; they are beautiful!
http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3Dcliffs%2Bof%2BMoher%26fr%3Dyf p-t-500%26toggle%3D1%26cop%3D%26ei%3DUTF-8&w=346&h=230&imgurl=www.photo-tour-of-ireland.150m.com%2FImages%2Fcliffs-of-moher%2Fcliffs-of-moher.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.photo-tour-of-ireland.150m.com%2Fmoher.htm&size=36.2kB&name=cliffs-of-moher.jpg&p=cliffs+of+Moher&type=jpeg&no=18&tt=19,769&oid=ba572f30fc35d062&ei=UTF-8

The Dagda
October 5th, 2006, 09:05 PM
Conas ata tu? agus Go raibh mile mhaith agat.

"I'm to be visiting a friend up in Donegal and I plan on swinging over into N.I. and if I get a chance" -Meabh23

Nuair ata tu i dun na ngal, ni mbeidh me ach cupla noimead ar shiul o tusa i mo gluaistean. Ar mhaith leat cupla deochanna? B'fheidir!

In ait ar bith, inis dom an data sceidealta nuair ata tu in eirinn, agus da mbeidh tu go han-mhaith, tabharfaidh me mo uimhir guthan tusa!! LOL

Slan leat mar anois!!

Fechín Taliba Rune
October 6th, 2006, 05:06 PM
I think it's a good idea to have a class online. I mean, I'm learning on my own because there's nowhere I can go to and learn (I have no means of transportation, so I have to walk everywhere.) I agree about the needing to listen to it, so I've got a casette I'm learning, but I think it'd help reading and writing skills at the very least if there was a class in CoT, and other people to type to in the language.

I'm both Irish and Scotish, and I've been wanting to learn for a long time, but it's just no fun when there's no one to practice with.

Meabh23
October 9th, 2006, 12:23 PM
Conas ata tu? agus Go raibh mile mhaith agat.

"I'm to be visiting a friend up in Donegal and I plan on swinging over into N.I. and if I get a chance" -Meabh23

Nuair ata tu i dun na ngal, ni mbeidh me ach cupla noimead ar shiul o tusa i mo gluaistean. Ar mhaith leat cupla deochanna? B'fheidir!

In ait ar bith, inis dom an data sceidealta nuair ata tu in eirinn, agus da mbeidh tu go han-mhaith, tabharfaidh me mo uimhir guthan tusa!! LOL

Slan leat mar anois!!

Tá mé go maith. Is tusa?

Nuair atá mé ansin, postfaidh mé PM duit ar an fhoram seo. Leis an uimhir mo charad. Casfaidh muid ar deochanna. Beidh mé ag imeacht anseo oíche Luan seo chugainn. Agus beidh ag filleadh dona Státaí ar an 1ú Samhna.

Mo dhroch-Ghaeilge, brón.

The Dagda
October 9th, 2006, 08:26 PM
Luan seo chugainn? Iontach! bheul. nuair a feicim an PM, deanfaidh me teagmhail leis!

Bain sult as an eitilt!

Fechín Taliba Rune
October 12th, 2006, 03:18 PM
Tá mé go maith. Is tusa?

Nuair atá mé ansin, postfaidh mé PM duit ar an fhoram seo. Leis an uimhir mo charad. Casfaidh muid ar deochanna. Beidh mé ag imeacht anseo oíche Luan seo chugainn. Agus beidh ag filleadh dona Státaí ar an 1ú Samhna.

Mo dhroch-Ghaeilge, brón.
See? This is why we need a Gaelic class: For people like me who desperately want to be able to read stuff like this and have some clue as to what the blazes is being said.

wolfos3d
October 18th, 2006, 05:13 AM
I love the idea of this. Now if one of those nice people who keep saying things I cannot understand would be so kind as to teach, it would be much appreciated.

Faol-chù
October 18th, 2006, 07:51 AM
I love the idea of this. Now if one of those nice people who keep saying things I cannot understand would be so kind as to teach, it would be much appreciated.

I bet you that if you do an intensive search, you will find that there is someone within 3 - 4 hours of you giving lessons...

If not, there are all sorts of 'Teach Yourself' programs.
I know for a fact that there are people who will teach over the phone.

That is a much better way to learn than online, any day.


Le meas,

Fechín Taliba Rune
October 19th, 2006, 11:56 AM
I bet you that if you do an intensive search, you will find that there is someone within 3 - 4 hours of you giving lessons...

If not, there are all sorts of 'Teach Yourself' programs.
I know for a fact that there are people who will teach over the phone.

That is a much better way to learn than online, any day.


Le meas,
I still think it'd be best if there's a class online. I don't know about anyone else, but I have no means of transportation aside from my own feet, and the public library near me has no material I can use. I can't by a program because I'm flat broke, so I'm still pushing for a class in CoT.

wolfos3d
October 21st, 2006, 11:28 PM
I still think it'd be best if there's a class online. I don't know about anyone else, but I have no means of transportation aside from my own feet, and the public library near me has no material I can use. I can't by a program because I'm flat broke, so I'm still pushing for a class in CoT.

Those are pretty much the same problems I'm having.

Shadow Angel
February 16th, 2007, 08:08 AM
http://members.tripod.com/%7Epg4anna/irish_harp.jpg Éirinn go brách