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September 21st, 2004, 08:13 PM
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Attempted Murder
I was thinking tonight about attempted murder..
Why is it that attempted murder does not have the same punishment as murder? Is not the crime in the heart? I mean, if you're trying to kill someone, how are you different from someone who actually does kill someone? Let's look at it this way: If someone kills someone plots out the murder of another someone, but fails in the execution thereof, how is that really any different from someone hwo actually executes it? They both had the same intent, and what's to say that the one who did kill someone would kill again while the one who failed wouldn't? Should attempted murder have the same punishments as murder?
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September 21st, 2004, 08:22 PM
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As it should be in my opinion. I see the point you’re making, and I do agree with you in principal. But in a court case where such severe penalties are at stake … you would have to consider the possible extenuating circumstances.
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September 21st, 2004, 08:23 PM
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I've wondered the same thing. Why should one guy get an easier sentence because he has lousy aim? Rewarding incompetence...
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September 21st, 2004, 09:15 PM
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I figured that attempted murder was a half-assed way of doing it, so they would give you a half-assed sentence. It never made since to me and you are right, the law is pretty gray on many things.
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September 23rd, 2004, 09:45 AM
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 It is kinda strange, the way legally speaking you have to actually wait for someone to die before a sentence of any length is given out. "Sorry, we can't lock you up...take the saferty catch off the gun the next time, THEN we'll consider it." Kinda seems a bit skewed.
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September 21st, 2004, 09:39 PM
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 Interesting topic... cheers mate
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September 21st, 2004, 10:09 PM
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no, of course not. Attempted murder, they haven't actually DONE anything wrong. They might have wanted to, but they didn't. For whatever reasons, but they didn't. And so attempted murder should not even be a crime, let alone have a punishment for it. No-one was harmed by attempted murder.
If someone WAS harmed, then it is assault.
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September 21st, 2004, 10:14 PM
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I'll have to side with Aes on this one. I see everyone else's point, but I don't think it should be punished the same if someone doesn't carry through. Just because I plot out killing someone and have the materials doesn't mean they're dead.
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September 21st, 2004, 10:19 PM
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Although I can understand your reasoning, I don't agree with it. Murder and attempted murder are not the same thing - just ask the person who survived the attempt.
There's all kinds of killing as defined by the law - from vehicular homcide, to manslaughter, to first degree murder - and although they all have the same result, they carry much different punishments.
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September 21st, 2004, 10:27 PM
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I know of two cases in VA where the driver of a car were charged and sentenced for 2nd degree murder. The first case, the driver drove by someone that the passenger had a problem with. The passenger shot and killed that someone. The second case, the guy driving the car was asked by the passenger to stop the car. He did and the passenger got out and shot in the direction of someone riding a bike and the bike rider was killed.
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