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    I was just looking for some information on Q.D. Leavis, and one of the sites that came up was one of those sites that sells papers to students for them to turn in and pretend they wrote. The sample from the essay cracks me up:

    One of the well-known conservative critics is Q.D. Leavis. She extremely object to popular culture. She argues that, in popular culture there is a loss of control over masses. The role of elites diminishes, becomes trivial.

    "...Only a small and educated cultural elite was capable of understanding and profiting from the descriptions of the human experience contained in the great works of art and culture. Only this small cultural elite can pass on this precious inheritance to the next generation, but their position and authority is threatened by the spread of commercialized 'mass culture': which satisfy to the lowest common denominator and undermines cultural standards..." (Leavis,)


    Although it seems that there is not any owner of the television, actually there are. The owner...
    The site claims that this essay got an A+.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Djiril View Post
      I was just looking for some information on Q.D. Leavis, and one of the sites that came up was one of those sites that sells papers to students for them to turn in and pretend they wrote. The sample from the essay cracks me up:

      The site claims that this essay got an A+.
      Students have been buying papers for decades and decades! Since before George Senior bought GW in to Yale. It would be interesting to see what Daddy bought for Georges' essays and papers. Hopefully something that spoke English properly, although that would have been a dead giveaway.
      It really just depends on your money and your professors' desire for tenure to let you get away with it.

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        I was just thinking that the bad grammar could be a way to fool turnitin.com. If it goes through the whole essay, the student could correct the grammar before turning it in so that it would be different enough from the original that turnitin.com wouldn't catch it. Probably too complicated an explanation, though.

        Also, this thread is already coming up on the first page of the Google searches I've been doing.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Djiril View Post
          I was just thinking that the bad grammar could be a way to fool turnitin.com. If it goes through the whole essay, the student could correct the grammar before turning it in so that it would be different enough from the original that turnitin.com wouldn't catch it. Probably too complicated an explanation, though.

          Also, this thread is already coming up on the first page of the Google searches I've been doing.
          I don't know about that, the last college I went to stopped using that because it was so sensitive it turned up like 5 times as many false hits as it did legitimate plagiarized papers. It would be pretty hard to fool it.
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            Originally posted by Nox_Mortus View Post
            I don't know about that, the last college I went to stopped using that because it was so sensitive it turned up like 5 times as many false hits as it did legitimate plagiarized papers. It would be pretty hard to fool it.
            Whatever happened to doing the work yourself?
            Getting a real education instead of paying for enormous loans for the rest of your life to continue to be ignorant?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by watersprite View Post
              Whatever happened to doing the work yourself?
              Getting a real education instead of paying for enormous loans for the rest of your life to continue to be ignorant?
              heh? I don't advocate plagiarism, I was just pointing out that automated plagiarism detection programs have a lot of problems, both practical and ethical (though in this case I'm only pointing out the practical ones)
              "The word "natural" is completely meaningless! Everything is natural! Nature includes everything! It's not just trees and flowers! It's everything! A chemical company's toxic waste is completely natural! It's part of the nature! We're all part of nature! Everything is natural! Dog shit is natural! It's just not real good food!" George Carlin

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Nox_Mortus View Post
                heh? I don't advocate plagiarism, I was just pointing out that automated plagiarism detection programs have a lot of problems, both practical and ethical (though in this case I'm only pointing out the practical ones)
                You, know I just thought of another practical issue with those.
                Say you have an assignment to write an original poem and to get feedback before you turn it in you post it on MW. Well, when the teacher searches Google or those programs it'd probably show the MW thread. Then there's the question in the teacher's mind-- is it really yours or did you steal it from this website? This could happen with blogs, other websites and such. And with people not using the real full names online, the person posting the material could be anyone (technically)

                On one site, I saw this girl leave a note to her English teacher and pointing out a specific part of the classroom so if he looked and found the entry on a user submitted fiction site, he'd know it was her.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Agaliha View Post
                  You, know I just thought of another practical issue with those.
                  Say you have an assignment to write an original poem and to get feedback before you turn it in you post it on MW. Well, when the teacher searches Google or those programs it'd probably show the MW thread. Then there's the question in the teacher's mind-- is it really yours or did you steal it from this website? This could happen with blogs, other websites and such. And with people not using the real full names online, the person posting the material could be anyone (technically)

                  On one site, I saw this girl leave a note to her English teacher and pointing out a specific part of the classroom so if he looked and found the entry on a user submitted fiction site, he'd know it was her.
                  a lot of those detection programs don't work like that though, they function by scanning a huge database of everything that has been submitted to them before (which is a major ethical problem (copyright violation)) plus stuff they pick up from sites that sell prewritten essays and a bunch of other stuff they can get to put in the database. But yes I can see how that would be a problem in some cases.
                  "The word "natural" is completely meaningless! Everything is natural! Nature includes everything! It's not just trees and flowers! It's everything! A chemical company's toxic waste is completely natural! It's part of the nature! We're all part of nature! Everything is natural! Dog shit is natural! It's just not real good food!" George Carlin

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                    I see. There are some teachers that do search Google, which would lead to a problem. One teacher at my high school just searched Google, so I know it happens.

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                    • #11
                      yep, that's pretty much what my college did after they stopped using anti cheating services, they had student aides scan google and various academic databases.
                      "The word "natural" is completely meaningless! Everything is natural! Nature includes everything! It's not just trees and flowers! It's everything! A chemical company's toxic waste is completely natural! It's part of the nature! We're all part of nature! Everything is natural! Dog shit is natural! It's just not real good food!" George Carlin

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