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  • Biggest let down?

    Whats been your biggest let down of gaming been? A game that you had high hopes for but in the end were disappointed.

    I'd have to nominate Elder Scrolls Oblivion for that


    The graphics were pretty but it fell dramatically short of its predecessor's footprints.

    A huge epic world is kinda worthless if you throw fast-travel in and it made the game feel a little too easy. Scaled difficulty is good in THEORY but having bandits attack you with Daedric weapons gives the whole idea of immersion a big gauntlet punch to the face. The system of marking items as stolen so that the whole world suddenly knows that a candlestick is stolen goods fifty miles away from where you stole it is a little bizarre and almost makes the entire system of stealing not worth it. Making key characters un-killable seems kinda excessive especially when you throw in the Yield action for accidental whacks with a sword.

    The magic system was in desperate need of an over-haul with stronger spells not replacing weaker ones and no option to forget or delete the weaker ones leaving you with a miles long list of spells. The addition of mounts is cool but you cant attack from them and they freak if anything bigger than a snake shows up.

    Bethesda passed up the opportunity to fix the broken Enchanting system and while the Spell Creating system was somewhat fixed, it still requires nearly un-attainable amounts of cash to be worth it. The guards also seem to follow an accelerated leveling curve and are always powerful enough to curb stomp you regardless of how much you cheated and makes the Morrowind-esq rampages far less entertaining.

    The NPCs' voice assignment is whacked and the lack of differing character models makes for some very confusing moments when the guy who's throat you slit four towns back suddenly shows up to sell you potions.

    Oblivion was hyped to the gills but kinda fell flat on its face
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  • #2
    well for my self personally i would have to say Wrath of the Glitch king and walmart cause they didnt put it out till a week later
    I felt like I was watching a dream I'd never wake up from. Before I knew it the dream was all over.

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    • #3
      I've got a few... but I'll go one at a time until I remember more

      Deus Ex: Invisible War... now, the game isn't god-awful, but the first Deus Ex set the bar pretty damn high :D

      Star Wars Galaxies: An Empire Divided. .. now, the game is alright, but I was following the development cycle for years and got into the beta... though it ain't bad now, it ain't what it used to be either.

      Commander Keen series - Was discontinued

      Let's go more recently...

      Tomb Raider: Underworld ... I am a huge fan of the tomb raider series and love Anniversary for the Wii to death, so gave Underworld a spin..... the graphics are the best yet, but the controls and camera... good gods. The camera jumps around randomely whenever you jump and/or land on a ledge, and the controls aren't half as responsibe as in "Anniversary".

      Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of liberty *Gets shot at* ... I know, I know. The game's awesome... but what can I say? I was crazily excited for this game, even to the point where I considered getting Zone of Enders just to play the demo (didn't.). The game is a little...boring. Weakest entry of the entire Metal Gear series by far. Even the MSX2 ones.

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      • #4
        Master of Orion 3: Worst. Game. Ever. I've had more fun creating Excel spreadsheets. Apparently Spore's pretty sucktastic, too, between the repetitive gameplay and invasive copy protection.

        Faith is easy -- until the moment you actually need it.

        "Since when are facts subjective?" - Athena_Nadine

        "Turning and turning in the widening gyre
        The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
        Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
        Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
        The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
        The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
        The best lack all convictions, while the worst
        Are full of passionate intensity."

        – W.B. Yeats, "The Second Coming"

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        • #5
          Rome: Total War.
          Main campaign is shit, the historical accuracy is garbage, and it just does not at all hold up to its predecessors (especially Shogun) or successor (Mediaeval II, which I played before getting RTW, admittedly).

          The most fun I had was making two armies of just war dogs and having them charge each other in a brutal Moshpit Of Doom. Which was actually pretty funny. >D

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          • #6
            I'd have to say "Brawl". I like "Melee" better. Sure, the graphics were better, but the game just seemed to slow in aspect.
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            • #7
              Knights of the Old Republic II

              It was a great game, but the plot was lacking and it felt really unfinished.

              Recently I haven't really been let down by much.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Nox Mortus
                It was a great game, but the plot was lacking and it felt really unfinished.
                I noticed that about KOTOR II as well -- it seemed like some parts of the plot were simply cut out ... to meet a production deadline, maybe? I don't know. But it's too bad, because like you said, it's a terrific game.

                Faith is easy -- until the moment you actually need it.

                "Since when are facts subjective?" - Athena_Nadine

                "Turning and turning in the widening gyre
                The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
                Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
                Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
                The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
                The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
                The best lack all convictions, while the worst
                Are full of passionate intensity."

                – W.B. Yeats, "The Second Coming"

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                • #9
                  Space Siege. I enjoyed dungeon siege but space siege just bored me. Looking forward to Diablo 3, disappointed that I am still waiting though. Same goes for starcraft 2 - they're making us wait way too long.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Phoenix Blue View Post
                    I noticed that about KOTOR II as well -- it seemed like some parts of the plot were simply cut out ... to meet a production deadline, maybe? I don't know. But it's too bad, because like you said, it's a terrific game.
                    Bingo. If it seemed unfinished, that's the reason. It's infamous for being rushed for Christmas that year. Blame LucasArts for pushing Obsidian as such. More story details were written out, but never got the chance to be implemented.

                    Here's an interview with the Lead Designer of the game, Chris Avellone, which helps explain some more.

                    http://www.eucantina.net/interview-w...chris-avellone

                    Of particular note:

                    EU Cantina: How satisfied are you now with KOTOR II, considering all the things that were left out of it?

                    Chris Avellone: Not terribly satisfied, mostly because I can see what was supposed to go into it vs. what made it in. I thought the ending (which was my fault) could have been much stronger if I’d focused on that more than setting up the global companion conversations - although I did think the player was likely to hit the global companion conversations first. I still think it’s a fun game, but it could have been much more. I do think the design team in general put in a lot of hours to make the game at the level it was, and in the time provided, did some amazing stuff, so I thank them.
                    It's not quite gone forever though. A group of programmers called Team Gizka are working on restoring the cut content for the PC version of the game. It's not certain when they'll be done though. Details are on their website here: http://www.team-gizka.org/

                    Biggest letdown for me personally? That would be... formerly, it was Revenge of Shinobi, because of it's difficulty and final boss being a let-down to me at the time, but I quite enjoy it now... the secret's to take your time and move through the stages carefully, as well as mastering the double-jump and making use of ninjitsu in the right spots. No, my biggest let-down is definitely Contra III: The Alien Wars, which I cover in a later post.
                    Last edited by Raxeph; March 9th, 2009, 12:56 PM. Reason: I like Revenge of Shinobi now.

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                    • #11
                      Spore, by far. It's boring and repetitive and I'd rather chew my own fingers off than spend one more minute of my life playing it.

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                      • #12
                        Ugh. Games like that make me wish software retailers would accept returns.

                        Faith is easy -- until the moment you actually need it.

                        "Since when are facts subjective?" - Athena_Nadine

                        "Turning and turning in the widening gyre
                        The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
                        Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
                        Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
                        The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
                        The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
                        The best lack all convictions, while the worst
                        Are full of passionate intensity."

                        – W.B. Yeats, "The Second Coming"

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                        • #13
                          And that's why I still play my Genesis, Nintendo 64 and Super Nintendo.

                          Those games will never get old.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Nox_Mortus View Post
                            Knights of the Old Republic II

                            It was a great game, but the plot was lacking and it felt really unfinished.

                            Recently I haven't really been let down by much.
                            'Cuz it was done by Obsidian instead of BioWare, and they rushed it. Unlike the first one, which was perfect. Thank the gods for Mass Effect.

                            Although I'm really looking forward to SOE's upcoming RPGs: The Old Republic MMO, and Dragon Ball Online. But, I'll still play Star Wars Galaxies; never has there been a better MMO. I mean, nothing can beat the joy using a Super Stardestroyer to rape face in a fleet battle against the Rebs.

                            EDIT:
                            Other game that was a let-down for me was City of Heroes. I played both that and City of Villains; CoV was better, but they both kinda sucked. The developers that made them were very new and very dumb. Although a nicer was of saying it is "inexperienced", it just doesn't carry the same emphasis that calling them a bunch of n00b dumbasses does.
                            Last edited by Louisvillian; January 6th, 2009, 04:27 AM.

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                            • #15
                              Biggest let downs....

                              I'd have to say Vanguard was a HUGE letdown.

                              The system specification requirements were so through the roof that they literally shut out thousands of players who would have liked to play it. The game itself was terribly optimized, leading to said enormous system spec requirements that even if you met still did not make the game playable. The worst part was that, in my opinion, it was otherwise a good game. There were great graphics, huge stories and lore behind everything. It was well put together, aside from system specs that crippled EVERY player. The worst part was that the developer, you can read it on wikipedia, basically put out a letter I can only describe as admitting a huge frack up and then apologizing for the state of the game.

                              Kingdom Hearts 2 actually had a decent enough storyline, although it didn't seem as deep and good as the first one. The combat system was very smooth moving, and they even fixed the camera angle from the first game so it flowed so much better. However, they borked the magic system. You basically had an option at the beginning of the game of making your character high on defense, offense, or magic, and then choosing a second one to be sort of secondary high on.

                              In KH2 though they made it so that if you ever cast a healing/cure spell on yourself, no matter how much mana you had it would cast. And it would then deplete ALL your mana. It made being a magic caster next to impossible, and most importantly obsolete. There was also the system of making the triangle button an immediate special action, sometimes varying on the battle. In essence, you'd just press the triangle button to do something pretty and beat the crap out of your foe.

                              Good game, but it could have been better.

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