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    I'm bored and i feel like getting something going and this is the debate were having in my social justice homework and other peoples insights could be very helpful. So heres a fun little philosophical question, if you enjoy debates that is....

    So here we go: Why is it considered HUMANE to euthanize beast but INHUMANE to euthanize man in most "civilized" societies?

    Honsetly i'd rather put both Fido and Grandma out of thier misery then watch them suffer.
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    Hmmmm, very good question.
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    • #3
      Because it's easier on the conscience of those who invented the term.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Gareth View Post
        Because it's easier on the conscience of those who invented the term.
        As Plausible that is, it only goes one way. Wouldnt it stand to reason that they would want to make it easier in reference to humans rather than animals?
        the true assention: Jesus died and went up to heaven. Upon entering nobody was there. he was all alone...and then it hit...The voice had tricked him...there was no pie.

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        • #5
          Because the human animal is a hypocritical beast.
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          • #6
            Personally I would like to see it become an option that if you got enough signatures on a petition you could have people put down like rabid dogs.

            So I'm thinking I am not going to be very unbiased.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by )O( ~ Khara~ )O( View Post
              Personally I would like to see it become an option that if you got enough signatures on a petition you could have people put down like rabid dogs.

              So I'm thinking I am not going to be very unbiased.
              If you start it i get one of the first five signatures!
              the true assention: Jesus died and went up to heaven. Upon entering nobody was there. he was all alone...and then it hit...The voice had tricked him...there was no pie.

              Please, Send your energies to those who suffer from Anatidaephobia...They need your help more than ever, And remember, Anatidaephobia is no laughing matter. Check with your doctor immediatly if you have Anatidaephobia.

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              • #8
                So here we go: Why is it considered HUMANE to euthanize beast but INHUMANE to euthanize man in most "civilized" societies?
                Personally, I think it comes down to the idea of "fellow man", and maybe some people feel that to put someone down for whatever reason is akin to murder. Also, some of us tend to see humans as a more feeling, more conscious creature, so to euthanize a human is a little more. . . erm, inhumane, I guess?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Lucien View Post
                  If you start it i get one of the first five signatures!

                  Same here!

                  Honestly I think it is inhumane to have people suffer just as much as it is inhumane for pets and other animals. (Unless of course we are talking about those who need to be put down like rabid dogs.... then I could possibly be persuaded to let them suffer.)

                  Of course even as a fundie Christian I had heretical views on things like abortion, euthanasia and capitol punishment. So the why's never really made sense to me. I think it is for the people left behind, they are holding out for a miracle that just won't happen. Plus they are also worried about abuse of it too. For example if you euthanize rover you aren't going to be anything but sad really. Grandpa on the other hand might have a fortune and you want your cut right now, doctors can be bribed etc. You have the whole human corruption issue involved. Also the idea that human life is somehow more sacred than that of an animal which, I believe, is bs or at the very least works more in the favor of euthanasia. If a human is so special is it not more loving of you to let a terminally ill person go peacefully than it is for them to suffer horribly?

                  Just my thought.

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                  • #10
                    "Humane" was a word used interchangeably with "human" until it was latter defined by itself. I believe that it's more of a question, not of hypocrisy, but a tendency to still define ourselves, and actions, differently when a person is involved vice an animal.

                    We feel it is our job to help said dieing animal by making it less painful, but when faced with another human being, the ideology behind it is completely different. It's all good to say that it would be better for grandma to pass on, but when it comes down to actually "pulling the plug" you are now faced with a human death on your hands.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Lucien View Post
                      I'm bored and i feel like getting something going and this is the debate were having in my social justice homework and other peoples insights could be very helpful. So heres a fun little philosophical question, if you enjoy debates that is....

                      So here we go: Why is it considered HUMANE to euthanize beast but INHUMANE to euthanize man in most "civilized" societies?

                      Honsetly i'd rather put both Fido and Grandma out of thier misery then watch them suffer.
                      This relates to my own thread on Assisted Death - http://mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?t=237278

                      It's simple. No one wants to "put down" grandma. The word "euthanasia" brings to mind a poor old lady who's family, sick of her and not wanting to bother with her, decide to kill off. It also brings to mind a world in which people over the age of 60 are required by law to visit councilling encouraging them to consider choosing death, and over 70 put down whether they like it or not. The problem is, the word "euthanasia" doesn't indicate whether or not the old person in question has a choice in his or her own death, so a humane society can't vote it in.

                      Assisted Death, however, is very different. Most people will look at you strangely if you suggest we legalize it, and ask if you're suggesting we allow euthanasia, but after you explain, the majority of people say "oh that, yes, I totally agree with that".

                      The fact is you have to think about this issue before you can make a good decision. You also have to be clear on your exact meaning. This is asking too much of the general population.

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                      • #12
                        Someone said that if this were made legal in the UK, people would abuse it and do away with their relatives to get at the money. I think it's why some are holding back.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by ~Runa~ View Post
                          Someone said that if this were made legal in the UK, people would abuse it and do away with their relatives to get at the money. I think it's why some are holding back.
                          However, there is absolutely no evidence of this happening in any place where it is legal, rendering this slippery slope a boogeyman.

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                          • #14
                            I need to look into this because according to a doctor it would happen, where relatives would go to such lengths. Show proof that it doesn't happen in countries where it's legal.
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                            • #15
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