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  • #16
    Originally posted by bellamandu View Post
    If I remember correctly, scientists (or more namely einstien and hawking) have worked out "theoretical" time travel. keyword: theoretical. meaning that mathematically speaking, it is possible.
    You mean Hypothetical - as is a hypothesis that is mathematically viable... bit like string theory.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Infinite Grey View Post
      You mean Hypothetical - as is a hypothesis that is mathematically viable... bit like string theory.

      yes. thats it.

      sorry, i'm half asleep right now.
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      • #18
        Time travel is completely impossible. At least travel to the past. Future maybe but doubtfull.
        Why?
        Because no matter who goes back in time, there will be a reason for it. And upon reaching the past you will have already accomplished your goal therefore there will have been no reason for going into the past to begin with, therefore you will have not gone into the past, but then you will not have accomplished your goal, therefore you will have to go back to the past thus creating a continuos loop.
        Open your eyes to the infinite possibilities of your own mind, look beyond the dogma of the civilization in which you live and aspire to be more than a blind sheep which shall feed the belly of the beast we call normality.
        Upon the realization of your own beliefs you will become more than bound mule with which the scrupulous invokers of ignorance shall use as a means to pull forward the hypocritical, demeaning, closed minded dogma of normality, you will become an eagle whom has the means and the will to be free and soar upon the winds untill the end of time.
        Thus you have invoked and established your own freedom.
        Be intelligent, be zealous, be strong, be corageous, understanding, and honorable, but foremost be free my friends.
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        • #19
          IF time travel to the past is possible, then some future society is already doing it. We would not know they are doing it, as any changes to our past would affect us and we would only know the past as we already know it. (Does that make sense???)
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          • #20
            Originally posted by aranarose View Post
            IF time travel to the past is possible, then some future society is already doing it. We would not know they are doing it, as any changes to our past would affect us and we would only know the past as we already know it. (Does that make sense???)
            Not necessarily... the hypothesis involved with time travel are pretty knowledge intensive, making even the layman renditions virtually unapproachable with a solid basis in several fields of physics and mathematics. This is further compounded by the number of scifi tv shows, movies and novels out there that deal with time travel and get it woefully wrong. Take for example my favourite show, Doctor Who... a show based around the idea of time travel... but it gets it all horribly wrong.

            Interestingly enough, Futurama comes close when Fry becomes his own grandfather. The would be more than possible... as would assassinating your grandfather before your parent's were born, your future self would remain unaffected. Bit of a mind bending experience no?

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Infinite Grey View Post
              Not necessarily... the hypothesis involved with time travel are pretty knowledge intensive, making even the layman renditions virtually unapproachable with a solid basis in several fields of physics and mathematics. This is further compounded by the number of scifi tv shows, movies and novels out there that deal with time travel and get it woefully wrong. Take for example my favourite show, Doctor Who... a show based around the idea of time travel... but it gets it all horribly wrong.

              Interestingly enough, Futurama comes close when Fry becomes his own grandfather. The would be more than possible... as would assassinating your grandfather before your parent's were born, your future self would remain unaffected. Bit of a mind bending experience no?
              Not as mind-bending as you might think LOL I'm guessing you're hinting at the changes in the past lead to split timelines sort of thing (correct me if I'm wrong).

              And time would have to be self-correcting and/or self-preserving if time travel is possible, otherwise the various potential paradoxes (paradoxi?) would lead to a collapse of the universe. And since the universe has not collapsed, I'll safely assume that either A) time travel is NOT possible or B) time travel cannot affect one's own past in any way.
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              I read Tarot cards and Oracle cards and Runes and Pendulums and little colored gems that represent the elements. And I believe that they tell the truth. I believe that faeries are real, and that they talk to me. I also know that I'm at least 50% insane. And I'm okay with that. I won't judge you. But you can judge me all you want. I'll just tell you to stuff it where the sun don't shine. And I'll smile while I'm saying it, and offer you homemade fudge and soft pretzels.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by aranarose View Post
                Not as mind-bending as you might think LOL I'm guessing you're hinting at the changes in the past lead to split timelines sort of thing (correct me if I'm wrong).

                And time would have to be self-correcting and/or self-preserving if time travel is possible, otherwise the various potential paradoxes (paradoxi?) would lead to a collapse of the universe. And since the universe has not collapsed, I'll safely assume that either A) time travel is NOT possible or B) time travel cannot affect one's own past in any way.
                This statement seems to assume there's only 1 possible timeline and going back in time does not inherently create a new timestream/timeline/alternate reality (or whatever sci-fi term you want to apply to it). Potentially near infinite timelines could mean going back in time in itself creates a new timeline where any future is possible, making traveling back to the exact timeframe you came from very difficult.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Kreyas View Post
                  This statement seems to assume there's only 1 possible timeline and going back in time does not inherently create a new timestream/timeline/alternate reality (or whatever sci-fi term you want to apply to it). Potentially near infinite timelines could mean going back in time in itself creates a new timeline where any future is possible, making traveling back to the exact timeframe you came from very difficult.
                  Thats a very interesting ponder. it made me think. If one were to go back in time or forward in time, it would be very easy to get lost in time. But what would that mean? O.k say you know someone who messes with time. They go into the past, what would happen to you? Would you cease to exist? Woud everything remain the same while an alternate demension is affected? Would you change in an instant? It's just so complicated and I don't think our human minds could ever figure it out without trying it.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Glowingsun View Post
                    Thats a very interesting ponder. it made me think. If one were to go back in time or forward in time, it would be very easy to get lost in time. But what would that mean? O.k say you know someone who messes with time. They go into the past, what would happen to you? Would you cease to exist? Woud everything remain the same while an alternate demension is affected? Would you change in an instant? It's just so complicated and I don't think our human minds could ever figure it out without trying it.
                    I just think an alternate reality would be affected, with our reality being preserved. Now, crossing realities to get back - that's a whole new thing to consider.
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