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  • #16
    Originally posted by Enigma
    Reguardless you would never make it far enough into the grounds to even be a threat. There are all sorts of detection devices such as motion detectors IR detectors audio sensors, guards with night vision, a radar station etc. It would be pointless to even try. The security team assigned to Area 51 is top notch to put it lightly.
    Oh yeah. The last time I was out there they dispatched a Blackhawk helecoptor out on us. We weren't tresspassing, but we were really REALLLY close to the border. I think they were just out there to see where we were. We disappeared behind a hill so the cameras they have couldn't see us.

    It's funny. I go out there really to see the planes. There is some mighty awesome aircraft they test out there and seeing something that's shaped so oddly soaring in the sky is just exhillarating! It's a dangerous hobby though because... heh.. they really don't want us to see those thing. ^.^

    Area 51 in my opinion is a red herring at best.
    Heh, everytime I hear (or see) someone use that term I can't help but think of the movie Clue. "Communist is a red herring." Thank you Tim Curry! lol!

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    • #17
      i Think the idea of the government hording alien remains is just scarry, and imoral. Think about it, you're flying through space woopdy-frinkin'-do, then WAM you're on earth, they take you and expirment on you. Yuck. I watched a documentary/movie/not sure if it's true, but there was a group of people trying to find a way into 51, and their cameras of the outside of 51 were all taken away and they had major restrictions on where they could fly too. Crazy how we have a free government, but we're not allowed to know what's behind a few fences, and men with guns.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Tisiphone
        i Think the idea of the government hording alien remains is just scarry, and imoral. Think about it, you're flying through space woopdy-frinkin'-do, then WAM you're on earth, they take you and expirment on you. Yuck. I watched a documentary/movie/not sure if it's true, but there was a group of people trying to find a way into 51, and their cameras of the outside of 51 were all taken away and they had major restrictions on where they could fly too. Crazy how we have a free government, but we're not allowed to know what's behind a few fences, and men with guns.
        Of course we can't see these confidential things. If we can see it so can our enemies. It's a matter of National Security. I know it would be cool to see these things but sometimes we have to override our curiosity with logic. It's for the good of the nation.

        As I said before I *seriously* doubt they have aliens there.

        As to the moon comment by Wooleybob. Okay man let's regress rather than progress.
        Of course we've been to the moon, to say otherwise is just asinine.
        And Valnorran is right. Nasa is funded by the government through tax payer's dollars. The red tape is such that NASA does not want to make a mistake.

        They are dealing with billions of funded dollars, dollars that they don't want to loose by rushing things.

        Just look what happened when Columbia blew up. NASA was grounded. That was a random series of events that was disastrous. That happened *with* the strict NASA code. Imagine what kind of problems would occur if they were more lax.

        They are now trying to move away from government funding so they can bring in personal investors, do fund raising, etc. That will make it easier for them to research what they want and fly when they want. It'll make things allot easier but they will always be at least as strict as they are, they will just have more funding so things should progress faster. And tax dollars will not be so tied up in it.

        "Never been to the moon" Come on wooleybob, you're smarter than that.
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        • #19
          I still think that it isn't right to hide things, but you're right, if the people knows everyone knows.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Enigma
            Of course we can't see these confidential things. If we can see it so can our enemies. It's a matter of National Security. I know it would be cool to see these things but sometimes we have to override our curiosity with logic. It's for the good of the nation.

            As I said before I *seriously* doubt they have aliens there.

            As to the moon comment by Wooleybob. Okay man let's regress rather than progress.
            Of course we've been to the moon, to say otherwise is just asinine.
            And Valnorran is right. Nasa is funded by the government through tax payer's dollars. The red tape is such that NASA does not want to make a mistake.

            They are dealing with billions of funded dollars, dollars that they don't want to loose by rushing things.

            Just look what happened when Columbia blew up. NASA was grounded. That was a random series of events that was disastrous. That happened *with* the strict NASA code. Imagine what kind of problems would occur if they were more lax.

            They are now trying to move away from government funding so they can bring in personal investors, do fund raising, etc. That will make it easier for them to research what they want and fly when they want. It'll make things allot easier but they will always be at least as strict as they are, they will just have more funding so things should progress faster. And tax dollars will not be so tied up in it.

            "Never been to the moon" Come on wooleybob, you're smarter than that.
            I'm sorry if it sounds like i pushed some buttons for people,i didnt mean to..like i have said before people have their own belives on topics,I put my time in the service of 8yrs,and shared alot of things that was floated around and did some research on things that was said and found out.the only reason i spoke about not being on the moon,was it was already put out to the public(not all the truth let out) by vidio,and book..The whole thing was staged in the B.C of Canada..In the old days they had Rocketships which broke apart in stages once in space,the capsule was to contain the crew,and luner buggy,and equipment for research..when they landed on the moon the craft was smaller than from take off..now after all the whoop-di duh of bouncin on the moon joy ridding in the buggy,sayin a speach was over,now was the time to pack up head for earth.now mind you...the capsule was small,had enough fuel for take off,why couldnt they bring back the space buggy?They didnt....it was left behind on the moon...Belive it or not...it was never brought back to earth,because if you ever watched the landing of the capsule,it used big parachutes to land in the ocean,and the capsule was so small,it hardly fit the astronauts in it...so all in all the only small(supposedly collected samples) of things from the moon,had to be stuffed in this small capsule with them.like i said before everyone has differnt beliefs on this topic,with answers,and questions with their own beliefs...Once again i am sorry if i made anyone mad,or think i am a nut case....THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE....someday we will learn it...
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            • #21


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              • #22
                Originally posted by LadyTrinity
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by LadyTrinity
                  Is it real? Do they have unexplained creatures being held?
                  Is it true if you work for them your life is very confined
                  Is it true they can kidnap people and throw them off a cliff and no one would ever know the secret?
                  I haven't read the whole thread yet, just the first page so if I'm repeating someone..ignore me lol
                  It's real.. It's true that your life would be EXTERMELY confined if you worked there..hell anyone who grew up on a military base had confined lives-if you worked at Area51 you'd probably be a hermit. And they can kidnap people and throw them off cliffs, although they wouldn't go through that much trouble. I live in Vegas and I've been around the borders of the shoot line. They have electric fences covering the perimiter and signs EVERYWHERE that say if you cross this line you will be shot, no questions asked. I have heard of tons of people over the years who've been killed for crossing that line..
                  As for the unexplained creatures, aliens, UFOs..Nobody could answer that. I've always been 50/50 on that one. People say that they brought the aliens over from Roswell, but why would they bring them all the way over here from NM, and how could they have done it without people seeing the giant UFO going down the highway? I know they have made replicas of UFOs there(great way to spend all of the tax payers money!)
                  The other thing is that the military bases in Nevada are moved around every 2 months and they are under ground..so if A51 is the same then even when someone does figure out exactly where it is and how to get there or take pics without getting shot or arrested by the time they get there it would have been moved already..Anyways enough of my ranting..and like I said if someones already said all this I'm sorry and just ignore it heh
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                  • #24
                    I have NEVER heard of anyone being killed... however I've learned that sometimes you don't have to hear it to be true. And I've been to the border and there is no electric fence. If there is an electric fence it's pretty far into the boundry. I've poked around there quite a bit. I love aviation so I have a need to go out there and sit for hours waiting and watching for them to test something.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by stephy-sama
                      Heh, everytime I hear (or see) someone use that term I can't help but think of the movie Clue. "Communist is a red herring." Thank you Tim Curry! lol!
                      lol, thats exactly what i thought when i saw that, too... of course, i am a big Tim Curry fan, so that might be the reason...




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                      • #26
                        I'm not to worried about Area 51.... its areas 1-50 I'm worried about.
                        -jeleia



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                        • #27
                          I forgot where it was that I found it but there was an article that a guy hacked area 51 and stole a chip. They said he had to either replace the chip and pay for it. Or spend time in jail. He paid the fine and was released. I think this happened just recently too. I've been on so many sites I forgot where I found it. But If I come across the site again I'll give you the link to the article.

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                          • #28
                            Yes

                            Yep...Yes..and certainly :shift:
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