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    I have a *lot* of trouble meditating. I'm not even sure if 'm doing it right, because people have told me that if it's hard I'm doing something wrong.

    I can relax my body at will, to the point that I can feel my pulse in the relaxed area. I'm pretty sure I'm breathing correctly. I just can't clear my mind. Random thoughts just pop into my head, and once I'm relaxed I don't really know what to do.

    Am I doing something wrong, or forgetting something?

  • #2
    Originally posted by LittleRhiannon
    I have a *lot* of trouble meditating. I'm not even sure if 'm doing it right, because people have told me that if it's hard I'm doing something wrong.

    I can relax my body at will, to the point that I can feel my pulse in the relaxed area. I'm pretty sure I'm breathing correctly. I just can't clear my mind. Random thoughts just pop into my head, and once I'm relaxed I don't really know what to do.

    Am I doing something wrong, or forgetting something?
    One of my friends had this problem recently. They had alot of trouble clearing their mind. Random thoughts would pop up and he would just follow them, wherever they went. Everytime a random thought pops up, imagine yourself physically pushing it away. Tell it to come back later or something. If you keep doing this for a while, eventually they will stop coming.

    I used to have similar problems with the second part of your question. One thing I have started doing is guided meditations, where you actually have a "place" to go or someone to "talk" to. These have helped me immensely. You can find these in lots of books, including Dorothy Morrison's The Craft and Elisabeth Brooke's A Wisewoman's Guide.

    Another problem I've had is that although every single book out there tells you to lie on your back or sit with your legs crossed, there is absolutely no way I can be comfortable and I keep thinking about how I'm uncomfortable or about my body instead of the meditation. The trick is to become comfortable enough to where your body stops talking to you. For me, I've found that's laying on my side, propped up on pillows and wrapped up in the blankets. Some people will warn against falling asleep while meditating but I don't have that problem.

    Hope this helps some.

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    • #3
      I second Holly's suggestion that you try guided mediation. For me, that's the best way to meditate because my mind tends to wander a lot. Also, guided mediations with a specific intent can work as effectively as spells to accomplish goals. My favorite books of guided mediations are: Invoke the Goddess and Invoke the Gods both by Kala Trobe. Another great one is Goddess Meditations by Barbara Ardinger. Usually, I'll tape record the meditation and play it back to myself.

      If you don't want to do guided mediation, you can try having a focus other than breathing. I can never manage to focus on that. I can, however, focus on a candle flame. Chanting has also been useful for me. Try the basic "Om." It's amazing all on its own.

      Finally, don't beat yourself up for having random thoughts. They happen. Rather than fighting them, acknowledge the thought and then bring your mind back to your focus.

      Hope that helps.

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      • #4
        Thanks for the advice!

        I've tried little guided meditations, but the weird thing is that I can't stay in my body when I do them, it's like I'm watching myself on a TV.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by LittleRhiannon
          I have a *lot* of trouble meditating. I'm not even sure if 'm doing it right, because people have told me that if it's hard I'm doing something wrong.

          I can relax my body at will, to the point that I can feel my pulse in the relaxed area. I'm pretty sure I'm breathing correctly. I just can't clear my mind. Random thoughts just pop into my head, and once I'm relaxed I don't really know what to do.

          Am I doing something wrong, or forgetting something?
          You might be more geared toward guided meditation--some folks are (I know I am). Um...not to sound to promo-oriented, but a lot of people have found my book Magical Meditations (a reprint of my book Trancing The Witch's Wheel) very helpful. You might want to check the library to see if you can get it there, if you want to check it out first.

          http://www.galenorn.com/teashop/defa...nonfiction.htm

          Guided meditation is especially good for people who have very active minds that don't want to slow down...it's also much more 'western' than 'eastern' in approach, so easier for the western mindset to wrap around.

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          • #6
            Actually, from what I'm hearing, you're doing everything right and getting the results to prove it.

            The goal is to empty your mind of thoughts -- just like the goal of mountain-climbing is to reach the top of the mountain.

            But, just as in mountain-climbing, the journey is as important as the goal.

            Some of the random thoughts you get will be truly random. Some will actually useful, providing insight, solutions to problems, or truths you need to know.

            Acknowledge each thought as it comes, look at it, then set it aside and let it go, release it. Don't look at these thoughts as an annoyance, but as potentially valuable. Sometimes they will be things that your Self has been trying to tell you, and you are only now able to perceive. At the same time, do not allow yourself to wander randomly down thought-streams, getting "lost in the tangled woods". Look at each thought, give it a moment or two, then set it aside (knowing you'll come back to abandon it later).


            As for the "goal"... the goal is to simply be in that state. As the bumpersticker says, "Don't just do something, sit there!" If you absolutely can not work without a goal, try setting your goal as being in that place for a thousand heartbeats.
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            • #7
              It took me forever to get mediation down, but now im pretty good at it. I think it is something that while other people can help guide you.. There is no sure fire way to do it. Everyone always told me you can't meditate laying down because your body confuses it with your sleeping position. However, that is the only way I can meditate.. lol. I cant concentrate when I sit cross-legged. So maybe its your positions. Experiments with different surroundings and postions. Maybe that will help you. Good luck.
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              • #8
                I think you shoudl try many different types of meditations. Never let someone tell you which is correct and which is wrong because everyone is different in their own way and everyone is on different scales as to which level of spiritual developement they have come to.

                I personally do active meditation. Usually, I choose dancing to ambient music or something soothing such as that. It helps me to clear my mind. Others may prefer a silent meditation in which you sit. And let me tell you, I consider myself an active free spirit, I cannot sit for long. lol

                I know of a website that would help you with different types of meditations and instructions on each.

                Here you go, click

                I hope I helped.


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                • #9
                  Originally posted by SacredWithin
                  I think you shoudl try many different types of meditations. Never let someone tell you which is correct and which is wrong because everyone is different in their own way and everyone is on different scales as to which level of spiritual developement they have come to.

                  I personally do active meditation. Usually, I choose dancing to ambient music or something soothing such as that. It helps me to clear my mind. Others may prefer a silent meditation in which you sit. And let me tell you, I consider myself an active free spirit, I cannot sit for long. lol

                  I know of a website that would help you with different types of meditations and instructions on each.

                  Here you go, click

                  I hope I helped.
                  Oh yes! Dancing meditation is wonderful--I've done that, and it's a really good way to focus the will...also Yoga can do similar things.

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                  • #10
                    hmmm dancing meditation sounds like somthing that would work well for me...thank you! I'm also going to try prerecording some guided meditations.

                    :yourock:

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                    • #11
                      This is the best book I have read on the subject of meditation..
                      Learn to Meditate: A Practical Guide to Self-Discovery and Fulfillment
                      by David Fontana. It has some explanations on some history of meditation, and it has great meditation exercises for begginers.. Hope this helps!

                      Bright Blessings!

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                      • #12
                        A non-active mind is a dead one. Thoughts are going to come - when they do, just don't dwell on them. With practice you'll find it's much easier to ignore internal distractions.

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                        • #13
                          I really liked the site that linked to meditation practices!

                          The "Trip" meditation is the only one I have down so far! (And I didn't even know that was meditation! It was just my response to homesickness and loneliness!)

                          Dancing meditation sounds interesting; perhaps that will be my next task to accomplish!

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