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    Let's discuss the really BAD Pagan sites. I know that a lot of newbies try to find information on the 'net. Let's post the bad and ugly, here!

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    • #3
      Not to ruin your fun....but I'm not sure that slandering other sites is really appropriate.

      I don't think MW would like to be listed on another Forum Board as a bad site.

      It's a matter of opinion what's considered a bad site.
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      • #4
        *Administrator Mode*

        Well, you are correct in that Twinkle, and I'm going to warn this thread that no slandering will be allowed to go on. However if you want to discuss the negative traits of another site, I don't see a problem with that. Just keep it civil people.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Peacock View Post
          niiiiiiiiiiice AV!

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            Originally posted by Twinkle View Post
            Not to ruin your fun....but I'm not sure that slandering other sites is really appropriate.

            I don't think MW would like to be listed on another Forum Board as a bad site.

            It's a matter of opinion what's considered a bad site.
            So we can slander Christian sites with joyousness and bad taste, but we cannot comment on what we consider a bad Pagan site?

            I would say that's an unbalanced scale.

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            • #7
              I don't think we should be slandering anyone's site. But there is a difference between commenting on a bad site and slandering it.
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              • #8
                It's creative criticism vs. blatant bashing. What is "bad" is highly subjective.

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                • #9
                  All in Perspective

                  I'm curious why you didn't say "There are a lot of newbies here, let's let them know about some other really good Pagan sites."

                  Do you have some issues with other places which will be released by venting?
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                  • #10
                    If you've noticed, I haven't posted any sites.

                    There are a lot of bad sites out there...like the ones claiming D&D to be Wicca, or Satanism to be Paganism. I figured maybe newbies who wouldn't normally have a "filter" for websites would find this thread useful.

                    Lock it, if you will.

                    *shrug*

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                    • #11
                      through my cyber travels, I have seen MANY sites which would only confuse you if you dont know any better...

                      there is alot of disinformation out there, and for someone who is new to paganism, wanting to learn , it is hard.

                      my advice to anyone, new or old is to take what you read with a grain of salt. ANYONE can put up a website.. just because a website says the sky is blue on mars, does not mean the sky is blue on mars. Look at the website's author. some sites will quote sources and provide info as to where thier info is comming from. also it is important to watch out for the poopyganda... that is simply when it is sooo obvious that the author doesnt know what they are talking about, but they make it sound good..
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                      • #12
                        Bad Pagan Sites - Top 4 Traits:

                        Any web site with the word "jesus", "christian"; "christ", or "savior" in the URL and claiming to have a Pagan FAQ or Wiccan "education" page.

                        Any web site where the sole source of information on Pagan/Wiccan/Heathen practices is The Teen Witch Kit.

                        Any site which references the "burning times" - for goodness sake read up on history, use the Library.

                        Any site which makes a claim that Wicca is an "ancient religion" - my Scots-Irish great-great-great granny has no idea WTF a watchtower is or what the hell it's guarding.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by AoibhellFaeryMoon View Post
                          If you've noticed, I haven't posted any sites.

                          There are a lot of bad sites out there...like the ones claiming D&D to be Wicca, or Satanism to be Paganism. I figured maybe newbies who wouldn't normally have a "filter" for websites would find this thread useful.

                          Lock it, if you will.

                          *shrug*
                          What makes you decide what is and isn't "proper" Paganism? Not being argumentative, but I know a number of witches who consider themselves, at least in part of their practices, Satanic. Or what about the kids who whole-heartedly believe in those D&D deities, to the point of finally researching and attempting to work with them?

                          I'm not bagging on you, I promise. All I'm doing is being the Devil's Advocate in this because I have made statements like you just did here. And I had it pointed out to me by one of those D&D worshipping freaks that they had just as much a right to their fiction as Christians have to theirs, and other Pagans have to ours.

                          No one has a right to say what is good or bad when it comes to another's beliefs. Not if you purport to believe all religions to be equal.
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                            Bad Pagan Sites?

                            Oh... sorry...

                            I thought this was the thread about sites where we Evil Pagans hang out...

                            Don't mind me, carry on...
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by BlackLili View Post
                              What makes you decide what is and isn't "proper" Paganism? Not being argumentative, but I know a number of witches who consider themselves, at least in part of their practices, Satanic. Or what about the kids who whole-heartedly believe in those D&D deities, to the point of finally researching and attempting to work with them?

                              I'm not bagging on you, I promise. All I'm doing is being the Devil's Advocate in this because I have made statements like you just did here. And I had it pointed out to me by one of those D&D worshipping freaks that they had just as much a right to their fiction as Christians have to theirs, and other Pagans have to ours.

                              No one has a right to say what is good or bad when it comes to another's beliefs. Not if you purport to believe all religions to be equal.
                              While I appreciate your sentiment, there is no historical or theological data to support the D&D deities. And that thinking, as well as the permissiveness in the rest of the community in recognizing the fiction as legitimate Paganism is irresponsible at best.

                              We have a tradition. It varies by Culture and Pantheon. Pagans who claim to have a tradition with no affiliation to deity are simply Athiests wearing Pagan clothing.

                              This is exactly the type of mis-information that this thread is referring to. Promoting fantasy as religion does no one any good.

                              Oh and yes, there is a standard for what is and isn't Proper Paganism. Sure the guideline are loose, but they are there, for Wicca, Witchcraft and the Shamanic traditions.
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